Straight Top

[viking8x6]

On 4/18/2023 at 9:58 AM, ErosWired said:

If a bird calls itself an eagle, but has webbed feet and a bill, it’s not an eagle, even if it firmly believes it is. This ‘straight’ guy does not do ‘straight’ things - he does homosexual things. He fucks males, and ejaculates into them. ‘Straight’ men, by definition, do not engage in this behavior, therefore, he is not ‘straight’.

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet." I agree the label doesn't fit. So he's (deliberately or otherwise) mislabeling himself. But at the end of the day, it's what he does that matters - politics aside (and there's the rub).

 

On 4/18/2023 at 9:58 AM, ErosWired said:

You may note that throughout this post I’ve placed ‘straight’ in quotes, because science from Kinsey forward has demonstrated convincingly that human sexuality is a spectrum, and that true, absolute ‘straightness’ is on an extreme end, opposite true, absolute ‘gayness’. Everything in between is some combination of the two. For that reason, the labels are largely pointless anyway, but overlaying a label of ‘straight’ over three-quarters of the spectrum immediately illustrates that a significant percentage of the eagles are ducks calling themselves eagles.

So much this. Takes me back to my 15 minutes of fame (on a talk show in 1991 as a bisexual, as which I then I identified). He played the black and white card, probably to set me up to give the spectrum answer (either that or he was more obtuse that I thought).

Indeed, I'm quite convinced that Kinsey didn't go nearly far enough. Human sexuality is far more complicated than a single spectrum, both as to attraction and as to actual practice.

 

On 4/18/2023 at 10:18 AM, ErosWired said:

Just because a guy ranting on the sidewalk says, and believes, he’s Jesus, doesn’t mean I’m under any obligation to give deference to his perception over my own.

The question we grapple with is whether perception constitutes reality, or whether there is an absolute reality that exists outside of perception. [emphasis added]

Regardless, the ownership of any man’s identity ends at the entrance to my cunt. From that point, I’m absolutely entitled to an opinion.

The physicists don't actually agree on the answer to that question at this point in time. There is experimental evidence that suggests the former (no, I'm not kidding).

[ErosWired]

2 hours ago, viking8x6 said:

The physicists don't actually agree on the answer to that question at this point in time. There is experimental evidence that suggests the former (no, I'm not kidding).

Physicists disagree on something? Surely you jest. But they aren’t debating whether Schrödinger’s cat is straight, just whether it’s dead. I don’t think we have to address quantum states to contemplate what is essentially a question of human psychology.

[viking8x6]

1 hour ago, ErosWired said:

Physicists disagree on something? Surely you jest. But they aren’t debating whether Schrödinger’s cat is straight, just whether it’s dead. I don’t think we have to address quantum states to contemplate what is essentially a question of human psychology.

Well, there are two questions here: The question of psychology (does the guy believe he's straight) and the question of semantics (who gets to decide what 'straight' means). I prefer arranging my logic thusly: If I'm using "straight" to mean "has sex only with women" and he's using "straight" to mean "prefers women over men" (both of which are widely used and reasonable definitions for "straight"), then we are inevitably going to disagree on what to call it when the situation results in different truth values for the two definitions. But we are splitting hairs. Obviously we're not getting enough 😉

By the way, have I said recently that I really enjoy your discussion here? I think we'd get along very nicely and hope to meet you in person some day.

[Justaholeff]

4 hours ago, NWUSHorny said:

Same here, they ain't straight if they are giving or taking dick.

 

I disagree, you are at least somewhat bi, just like the "straight tops". 

Maybe any-sexual is a better term than bisexual, but if you enjoy fucking or even sucking with both sexes you are neither straight or gay. It is time to embrace bisexuality.

Nope...know exactly what I am and Im confident....but thanks anyway ..now I gotta go sit on a big dick!!..lol

[HoneyBuns1980]

I don’t get distracted by or hung up on “gay” and “straight” labels, nor anything in between. 
 

What irks - no - absolutely irritates and frustrates me are guys who profess to be “tops” who can’t get hard unless they’re sucking a cock. Which, often times leads to them wanting to get fucked. Keep in mind im a 100% total anal and oral bottom. Guys who have met me online already know that in advance. Guys who find me in the real world also find out PDQ as well. 
 

By comparison, a guy who identifies as “straight” is hardly cause for concern if he needs to unload inside a willing bottom bimbo of the same gender, regardless how often he’s doing it. The guy taking that load isn’t being deceived, and, I don’t really feel that the “straight” top is misleading the bottom or misrepresenting himself by using a male hole that has been made available to him for that purpose. 
 

Total nothing burger. 

[chipygmalion80]

On 4/20/2023 at 11:49 AM, Justaholeff said:

And that's your path and nothing wrong with it. I, however, have hooked up with women. I'm a gay man and I know it

🙌 Can we get this guy a drink?! 

 

On 4/20/2023 at 5:45 PM, HoneyBuns1980 said:

I don’t get distracted by or hung up on “gay” and “straight” labels, nor anything in between.

Labels are killing us.  Gays, trans, top, bottom, or whatever "Other-ness" divides us. The good news is we're all united here on sites like this.  Think of that!

But labels are great at sorting out people.  Dating apps are great at it.  Like the saying goes "a knife doesn't kill but the person who does the killing", a label doesn't divide us until its in the wrong hands.  Labels are often in the hands of the worst people who can only think inside a box.  Think outside that box!

Edited June 1, 2023 by chipygmalion80
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[HoneyBuns1980]

On 6/1/2023 at 10:46 AM, chipygmalion80 said:

🙌 Can we get this guy a drink?! 

 

Labels are killing us.  Gays, trans, top, bottom, or whatever "Other-ness" divides us. The good news is we're all united here on sites like this.  Think of that!

But labels are great at sorting out people.  Dating apps are great at it.  Like the saying goes "a knife doesn't kill but the person who does the killing", a label doesn't divide us until its in the wrong hands.  Labels are often in the hands of the worst people who can only think inside a box.  Think outside that box!

I agree (some) “labels are great at sorting out people”. I make it very clear I “label” or self-identify as a bottom. I’m typically encountering guys who insist on ignoring that by assuming every guy is versatile and likes it both ways as they do. And, try finding a “top” who isn’t “versatile”. Not everyone who identifies as a bottom wants that. 

Edited June 3, 2023 by HoneyBuns1980

[hntnhole]

On 6/1/2023 at 1:46 PM, chipygmalion80 said:

🙌 Can we get this guy a drink?!

I'll buy the first round for all of us ... and then we can get down to business ... 

[BiAggieGuy]

I've always figured the guys who say they're straight, but have no problem getting blown by another guy or fucking another guy to define straight as not having any kind of romantic interest in men, or even attraction to men.  They might be sexually interested only so far is it means getting off, but once that is done, they bug out.  They don't suck dick, don't eat ass, don't kiss, don't get fucked, etc.  They get sucked and plow ass.

The ones who are versatile are bisexual at least, but if they want to ID as straight, that's their business.  The more guys into playing with guys, the better.  Of course some guys are just curious and want to see what sex with another guy is like, or act out a fantasy he saw in a porn video.

Personally, I think every guy who has thoughts about it should give in and try it a few times.  If they find they don't like it, oh well.  They can go back to only fucking girls, and hopefully at least have a good memory of a fun fuck.

And as others have pointed out, women have been allowed to experiment with one another and even have flings with other women without being labeled.  Then again, most women are likely bisexual to one degree or another anyway.

Edited June 4, 2023 by BiAggieGuy

[Bimarried001]

On 4/17/2023 at 11:55 AM, Bottom Jim said:

I met a guy on sniffles who said he was a straight top. He liked to fuck guys in the ass and cum in them. He insisted he was 100% straight 

In my world that is a huge contradiction If you like to fuck guys then you cannot be 100% straight Gay of bi yes 

what do you guys think

He’s bi. He can say he’s straight all he likes but he’s bi at best. 

[hntnhole]

17 hours ago, Bimarried001 said:

He’s bi. He can say he’s straight all he likes but he’s bi at best.

I concur.  Talk is easy, cheap and oftentimes worthless noise.  It's what guys do that counts - what they say, not so much.  

When a "straight guy" is cruising on the apps, or in the fuckjoints, he's already demonstrated everything we need to know about him, and without listening to one word of self-forgiving bullshit.  Maybe he's fathered a dozen kids, and so what?  Who cares? 

Look at what a man does - that tells you all you need to know,  

[norefusal]

sounds to me like you want your cake and u want him to eat it too 😜

he fucked u didnt he? now what? your saying saying gettin bred doesnt count cause he wont out himself publicly? wtfc. is he your bf or an nsa hook up? pick your battles. thats my 2 cents 

[Barebacker831]

They could be emotionally straight and have no interest in men other than using them to fuck. I am the same. I love women and am attracted to them and am really not attracted or interested in men, but I crave cock and cum and being used. I say I’m bi, but I understand where the “straight” guys are coming from.

[chipygmalion80]

On 6/5/2023 at 3:28 PM, Barebacker831 said:

They could be emotionally straight and have no interest in men other than using them to fuck. I am the same. I love women and am attracted to them and am really not attracted or interested in men, but I crave cock and cum and being used. I say I’m bi, but I understand where the “straight” guys are coming from.

Yup.

Basically I've figured str8 or gay or whatever know the difference between a hookup to fuck and love making. 

I guess the question is: sticking dick in a FB or random guys ass makes you gay?  Some think so.  Others look at sexuality as the sex the person wants to be with.

And then there's the long term relationships with no sex.  If a "gay" is married to a guy but only has sex with women, well ... 🤯🤯🤯is he? a man whore?! 🤣

Edited June 12, 2023 by chipygmalion80

[HoneyBuns1980]

Notice how women don’t put one another into these ridiculous boxes like men do to each other. No wonder so many men are closeted. They don’t want the scrutiny from all sides.