Any LGBT+ Republican individual out here?

[TaKinGDeePanal]

7 hours ago, hntnhole said:

That's an interesting hypothesis, and not all that surprising.  Is there any actual evidence that's how it (Oct) was effected?  I'd be interested to read whatever there is ... 

 

1 hour ago, TaKinGDeePanal said:

I’ll see if I can find the relevant article from a guy called Thom Hartmann. Having a Minor in Middle Eastern and Soviet Politics - plus a background in the Military (and sitting through lectures about International Humanitarian and Military Law) - gives you an insight and greater/broader understanding than 99.995% of the general population. 

I found it. Maybe a couple of other members might be interested: [think before following links] https://open.substack.com/pub/thomhartmann/p/did-hamas-somehow-get-inside-information-23e?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
 

[barefucker44]

On 3/4/2024 at 8:15 PM, BootmanLA said:

In other words, you're bullshitting and can't actually point to anything he accomplished.

You say, but you provide no proof. Regardless, I assume you're going to forfeit your social security and medicare, because those are "socialist" and you certainly don't want to be a socialist.

Actually, communism and socialism are two entirely different things, and both come in many varieties. Communism in eastern Europe (including the USSR/Russia) failed spectacularly. It's done fairly well in Vietnam. Socialism - especially the Social Democracy variant - has provided very well across much of Europe, where the poverty rates are lower, people work fewer hours with more guaranteed time off, they're healthier, and they're happier. I suppose if you think the only measure of a good governmental system is how many billionaires it manages to produce - a status that 99.99999999% of people in this country will never achieve, no matter how great the USA is - then yeah, I'd say you're onto something. 

This is 100% bullshit. About 50% of LGBT people are Democrats. About 15% are Republicans. The rest are other party or not affiliated with any party, and both of those tend to vote with one or the other party >95% of the time, in general proportion to the parties' numbers. So the reality is, there are fewer than 25% of LGBT people who routinely vote Republican.

Walk Away was an AstroTurf organization - one created with fake people promoting something that never really happened. In fact, most of the people shown in Walk Away's ads were stock photos available online, or AI generated images. And exit polling showed that in fact Walk Away had zero impact on actual voters voting.

People are leaving many states, both blue and red, and moving to other states, both blue and red. Washington is a very liberal state (not the eastern part, but only about 10% of the population lives on that side of the state), and it's one of the fastest growing states in the country. So is Colorado, and all the growth is happening in the blue parts of the state.

Texas is growing, but it's becoming more purple, trending blue, in the process. Texas would actually have a fairly balanced legislature and congressional delegation if it weren't gerrymandered to hell and back for the Republicans. Ditto for Georgia.

Logical reasoning is clearly not your strong suit, but let me see if I can simplify this for you. Just because A happens, and then B happens, does not mean that A caused B, any more than a rooster crowing is what makes the sun rise. Migration patterns happen for a lot of reasons, and if it were all due to "modern leftist democratic policies" then West Virginia and Mississippi, two of the reddest states in the nation, wouldn't be the ONLY two that actually LOST population - not just failed to grow, but LOST population - in the 2020 census.

Louisiana is also a very red state, and we're barely holding even on population, much less growing. Other states with very slow growth rates: Kansas, Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, Wyoming, Kentucky, Indiana - all red states. In fact, despite your take that everyone is fleeing California, it grew faster in the 2010-2020 census data than ANY of the red states I listed. 

Yes, and unencumbered by our constitutional norms, they're rapidly becoming autocratic sewers. You're putting an awful lot of faith in our constitutional norms - which, in essence, have to be taken on faith - to assume Trump won't do to us what Erdogan is doing in Turkey, or Orban in Hungary. 

Republicans are using LCR and other "gay republicans" as cover - tokens, just like token Blacks have been used for decades to cover up their racism. And I'm sure you do know some super conservative gay guys - unfortunately, the kind of "I got mine, fuck the rest of you" attitude infects gay men just as it infects straight people. 

I stand behind my comments.  I dont have to prove them to you.  Do your own research and do so.  Most of the gay people I know believe in Republican or conservative values.  It is well established fact that the modern democratic party as witnessed in the Biden admin is destroying America.

[barefucker44]

On 3/3/2024 at 10:13 PM, HairyPozBottom said:

I'm sure some Jews, gays, Poles and Romani liked Hitler too. 

I'm Jewish, and a MAGA guy like many Orthodix Jews

[Nude]

17 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

As we say down south here.....Oh honey, bless your heart.

I'd go through this piece by piece but it's such a delusional screed it's not worth it. The president has literally zero to do with insurance costs, and if your taxes went up, it was either state/local taxes (again, the president doesn't control those) or you made more money, because there have been NO income tax increases under Biden whatsoever. Gas prices, again, aren't set by the president, and they respond almost entirely to supply and demand. Even oil company executives will tell you that federal drilling policy has almost nothing to do with gas prices in this country.

Crime cannot be "1000% lower" because "100%" lower means eliminated entirely. In point of fact, most crime has been dropping, and people's perception of crime is skewed because social media and sensationalist news sites play up crime for ratings and clicks. Both crime overall and violent crime in particular are lower. Moreover, Republicans love to tout high crime rates in big, Democratic-led cities, but the truth is that red-state crime (in places like, say, Mississippi) are double that of big cities like Chicago and New York.

And as for the military equipment - in order to have left "trillions" in military equipment (presumably in Afghanistan), he would have had to have left behind nearly three years' worth of the ENTIRE military budget - including salaries, health care costs, etc. - but all in equipment; or in other words, about 10 YEARS' worth of ALL equipment purchases. If we take big-ticket items like aircraft carriers and such out of the picture (because we sure as hell didn't leave those behind), you're saying that we left behind about 35 YEARS' worth of purchases of military equipment in that country. That's bullshit. We don't even have that much stuff in total around the world.

Look, I get it - you like the wannabe dictator, so fine, vote for him if you insist. Just try to come up with more credible lies, because right now, this is just pathetic.

Demicrate California pumps out the highest state gas tax rate of 77.9 cents per gallon (cpg).

[think before following links] https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/state-gas-tax-rates-2023/

California57.9 cents10.2 cents68.1 cents

StateGas TaxOther Taxes and Fees*Total Taxes.  [think before following links] https://www.investopedia.com/gas-taxes-and-what-you-need-to-know-5118477

Keep allowing crime, only makes it worse down the road.  Land prices get lower the higher the crime.

[think before following links] https://apnews.com/article/business-health-government-and-politics-california-coronavirus-pandemic-d0c6dc49ef4cd6d05f649a860bd72888

I love it when the crude oil goes up, then I make money.

[think before following links] https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/oil-price?type=wti&op=1

51% of one of the highest Fed gas tax.

[think before following links] https://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas/consumer-information/motor-fuel-taxes/gasoline-tax

Will the Federal Energy Act requirements increase ethanol content in gasoline to 10 percent by volume?

Yes. We expect that the Federal Energy Act requirements will lead to a required national average ethanol content of 10 percent ethanol by 2012. However, California has had 10 percent ethanol in its gasoline since the beginning of 2010.  Ethanol makes gas burn faster, thus needing to refuel more.  It doesn't cut the smog.  And it's been more than 10% in CA.  Buy easy testers online and figure it out for yourself.  ethanol is hard on engines.  CA has figured out the more one has to fuel up, the more tax money they make.  It's a great scam. 

 

Then CA pays it's homeless, [think before following links] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10498607/San-Francisco-homeless-man-says-gets-paid-620-month.html

The list can go on once thinking outside the box and getting rid of brainwashing / Gaslighting

That's how I see it.  I have been Dem for most of my life, yeah!  With all the wackadoodle crap that's been going on, I defected to Independence and moved out of California.  I'm an American!  I was born in America.  I have the right to speak.  Once we got Trump in the running, if you weren't Dem, they suddenly became dictators.  Every single one.  When someone has to become aggressive and push crap at anyone that's Dictatorship. 

Discrimination is the intended or accomplished differential treatment of persons or social groups for reasons of certain generalized traits.

Discrimination, harassment, and retaliation

Federal and state laws protect you from unfair and unwelcome treatment at work. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and states enforce discrimination and harassment laws.

[think before following links] https://www.usa.gov/job-discrimination-harassment

 

Y'all have an awesome day!

 

[BootmanLA]

On 3/5/2024 at 4:20 PM, Nude said:

Impressive! Wannabe dictator, is that the best you have?

If that's the only rebuttal to my post you can make, I think you're making my points for me.

[BootmanLA]

On 3/5/2024 at 9:07 PM, barefucker44 said:

I stand behind my comments.  I dont have to prove them to you.  Do your own research and do so.  Most of the gay people I know believe in Republican or conservative values.  It is well established fact that the modern democratic party as witnessed in the Biden admin is destroying America.

With apologies to Inigo Montoya, these words - "well established fact" - I do not think they mean what you think they mean.

[BootmanLA]

14 hours ago, Nude said:

Demicrate ... [removed miscellaneous babbling]

Y'all have an awesome day!

If California has high gas prices because of high gas taxes, that has zero to do with who is the president. They were that high under Trump, they were that high under both Bushes. So again, blaming a Democratic president for the choices of a state government, elected by a state's representatives, is - well, let's say "interesting," to avoid using words like "foolish" or "stupid" or "ignorant".

Oil prices, too, as noted, aren't set by the president and are only very lightly influenced at the margins by presidential decisions. Ask any oil company executive. You're free to love crude oil prices being high, or low, or whatever; but if you give blame or credit to a president, that's (again) "interesting".

You cite federal law prohibiting discrimination. Perhaps you're unaware that, in fact, federal law on workplace discrimination does NOT specifically include "sexual orientation" as a protected class - meaning that an employer could say "I found out you were a faggot - you're fired" and federal law could do *nothing* about that, for decades.

Only a few years ago did the Supreme Court finally decide that "discrimination on the basis of sex" did, in fact, include discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation - a decision that Republicans in general and the right wing in particular has been screaming about ever since. The right fought against that interpretation (and won those fights) from the time the Civil Rights Act was passed, in 1964, until the Supreme Court finally included LGBT people under its coverage in 2020.

So for fifty-six years the Republicans fought specifically to exclude you from that "discrimination" protection you laud today. They're still opposed to it. And yet you seem to think they're on your side. "Interesting."

[hntnhole]

On 3/5/2024 at 10:07 PM, barefucker44 said:

Most of the gay people I know believe in Republican or conservative values.

As they say in the Real Estate business .... location, location, location.  

[Nude]

Cool thing, California's governor wants to be president.  He's like The current one, destroying the states, destroying the country with open borders, and losing 80,000 kids on US soil

[Nude]

10 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

If California has high gas prices because of high gas taxes, that has zero to do with who is the president. They were that high under Trump, they were that high under both Bushes. So again, blaming a Democratic president for the choices of a state government, elected by a state's representatives, is - well, let's say "interesting," to avoid using words like "foolish" or "stupid" or "ignorant".

Oil prices, too, as noted, aren't set by the president and are only very lightly influenced at the margins by presidential decisions. Ask any oil company executive. You're free to love crude oil prices being high, or low, or whatever; but if you give blame or credit to a president, that's (again) "interesting".

You cite federal law prohibiting discrimination. Perhaps you're unaware that, in fact, federal law on workplace discrimination does NOT specifically include "sexual orientation" as a protected class - meaning that an employer could say "I found out you were a faggot - you're fired" and federal law could do *nothing* about that, for decades.

Only a few years ago did the Supreme Court finally decide that "discrimination on the basis of sex" did, in fact, include discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation - a decision that Republicans in general and the right wing in particular has been screaming about ever since. The right fought against that interpretation (and won those fights) from the time the Civil Rights Act was passed, in 1964, until the Supreme Court finally included LGBT people under its coverage in 2020.

So for fifty-six years the Republicans fought specifically to exclude you from that "discrimination" protection you laud today. They're still opposed to it. And yet you seem to think they're on your side. "Interesting."

You sound just like the current dictator

dictator, in modern political systems, is a single person who possesses absolute political power within a country or territory or is a member of a small group that exercises such power. The term comes from the Latin title dictator, which in the Roman Republic designated a temporary magistrate who was granted extraordinary powers in order to deal with state crises. Modern dictators, however, resemble ancient tyrants rather than ancient dictators. Ancient philosophers’ descriptions of the tyrannies of Greece and Sicily go far toward characterizing modern dictatorships. Dictators usually resort to force or fraud to gain despotic political power, which they maintain through the use of intimidation, terror, and the suppression of basic civil liberties. They may also employ techniques of mass propaganda in order to sustain their public support.

[Nude]

[think before following links] https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt1-1/ALDE_00000210/

[viking8x6]

Per @rawTOP in another topic in this subforum, as regards freedom of speech:

 

[BootmanLA]

4 hours ago, Nude said:

You sound just like the current dictator

dictator, in modern political systems, is a single person who possesses absolute political power within a country or territory or is a member of a small group that exercises such power. The term comes from the Latin title dictator, which in the Roman Republic designated a temporary magistrate who was granted extraordinary powers in order to deal with state crises. Modern dictators, however, resemble ancient tyrants rather than ancient dictators. Ancient philosophers’ descriptions of the tyrannies of Greece and Sicily go far toward characterizing modern dictatorships. Dictators usually resort to force or fraud to gain despotic political power, which they maintain through the use of intimidation, terror, and the suppression of basic civil liberties. They may also employ techniques of mass propaganda in order to sustain their public support.

Oddly, I don't see the current president employing force (either US government force, or his supporters' force) to accomplish his goals; but I certainly can't say the same about the previous guy, who not only called out the military to clear peaceful protests, but deliberately whipped up a violent crowd into attacking the seat of government in an attempt to force them to overturn the free and fair election results from two months earlier, all in a bid to keep himself in power.

And it's not the current administration that's threatening to curtail your civil liberties; it's the previous one, which hopes to be the next one, as well. I recall all too well how he lamented that cops couldn't bash the heads of arrestees against police cars, how he said that the cops should just start shooting people instead of arresting them, how his party's pushing to curtail online sexual expression (like this site!) in the name of protecting "da kids".

Try again, Bozo. Your clown makeup is showing.

[BootmanLA]

4 hours ago, Nude said:

You sound just like the current dictator

And you sound like someone who spouts nonsensical opinions, and refuses to even engage with the clear, detailed responses you receive. Believe whatever you want, including that the moon is made of green cheese, if you like, but don't be surprised when no one takes you seriously for babbling on with absolute untruths and silly notions.

[Nude]

Republicans, this is a setup.