Seeking Conscious Bareback Experiences Without Drugs

[alex36210fr]

Hello everyone,

I've been reflecting on my desires within the bareback community and wanted to bring up a topic that's been on my mind. I'm interested in exploring more bareback encounters but am specifically looking to engage in experiences that are free from drug use. My goal is to remain fully conscious and aware during these interactions, especially as I navigate the complex emotions and risks associated with possibly becoming HIV-positive.

I understand this is a sensitive topic and many might have various thoughts or experiences to share. I believe that maintaining full awareness during such encounters enhances the emotional and physical experience and would like to discuss how others manage to keep their environments drug-free while embracing the bareback lifestyle.

If you have participated in or know of any such gatherings, I would appreciate hearing about how you ensure these spaces remain conscious and focused on the experience itself rather than being clouded by substance use.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences.

[barebackrnb]

I agree with you on being fully aware of what is happening during bareback sex.  For me, I don't need drugs to enhance my experience.  Such experiences are very intense and highly enjoyable. Why would I use drugs to alter my true experience.  I believe this is especially true when engaging in serodiscordant sex. I understand experiencing sex is very personalized, and each person must decide for themselves how they want to experience sex.

[alex36210fr]

Thank you for sharing your perspective, barebackrnb. I completely agree with you about the intensity and enjoyment of being fully aware during such encounters. It's reassuring to hear from someone else who values experiencing bareback sex in its purest form, without the influence of substances.

Lately, I've noticed an increase in propositions for Chem sessions or similar setups, which seems to stem from a misconception that being open to bareback means I'm also open to drug use. This isn't true for me. My lifestyle choices outside of my sexual preferences are quite conventional, and I don't consider myself a fringe member of society simply because of how I choose to engage sexually.

It's important to me that this distinction is clear because while I embrace the risks and responsibilities of barebacking, I want to ensure that the experiences remain true to my values of full consciousness and clarity.

I'd love to hear more about how you and others maintain a drug-free environment during such encounters, and any tips for communicating boundaries around this with potential partners.

[jeff238]

I'm right there with you guys. When I want sex, I want sex. Not worrying about messing with drug bs, limp dicks, or other distractions. I want skin on skin, all the time, long sessions, and whatever we want. No psychosis, no complications.

[BootmanLA]

For what it's worth, @alex36210fr, I think in most of the "advanced" western countries with access to PrEP bareback sex is becoming the norm, while chemically "enhanced" [sic] sex is not. Sure, among the "look at me in my booty shorts and harness that i had to have someone teach me how to put on" meth head circuit party crowd, chem sex is probably pretty common. But if there are 5,000 gay methheads bouncing aimlessly with glassed-over eyes in some warehouse to interminable "music", bear in mind most of them are probably visitors from elsewhere and there's 10 or 20 times the number of locals there who are at home, living out a normal life, and not itching to score their next fix so they can try to have three guys' hands fist them at once. Or whatever.

[Poz50something]

On 1/30/2025 at 8:37 PM, alex36210fr said:

Hello everyone,

. I'm interested in exploring more bareback encounters but am specifically looking to engage in experiences that are free from drug use.

The thing I find with drug taking is that, far from enhancing the sexual aspect of bareback, it makes one impervious to the pleasure of human sexual communication. It’s definitely my anti drug attitude but as an observer, having walked into a place that immediately hit one’s nose with cat pee and shit and an unmistakeable smell that I now associate with crystal meth smoke with a layer of dust that was thick and acrid. One participant was there and the lights were on, but  nothing was registering. Then another person came in, both completely strung out and I guess, if one is having a meth trip, having a sober individual there kills the trip. I  had to get the hell out of there. Well, it did for me. Had to launder my clothes. They stank completely. 

 As someone who broke his sobriety after 20 years, when I used crystal meth last February, I will say this - I am susceptible to using when I am depressed, and last year was particularly difficult because no one came to my place for a massage, and I have discovered that February is a particularly dead month for massage therapists. I blamed myself even though I shouldn’t have. Throughout the trip, I was the one who insisted we hydrate constantly, that we have clear indications that things were getting too intense. I found myself getting annoyed with the scene, especially when my fb was flogging his dead dick like a bunch of limp spaghetti and I decided that my dick wasn’t going to come alive, for all the wishing that it would. Had 3 hours max sleep, ended up hating myself and for a couple of days had to convince myself that life was still worth it. It is common for the down but to feel lethargic, or to hate oneself because the dopamine is all used up after a meth trip. Never fucking again. 

 

 

[PozBearWI]

You've lived; hit challenges and got through.  Yeah we're all susceptible to picking up prior behaviors which hurt us.  Helps to know when we're in danger.  I'm glad you're here @Poz50something.

[alex36210fr]

Thank you all for your responses and for sharing your experiences. I'm really glad to see that others share this approach to barebacking, keeping it in a healthy, drug-free environment.

@jeff238 and @BootmanLA, I completely agree with you. The pleasure comes from direct contact, the connection, and the intensity of the moment, without having to deal with unnecessary complications caused by drugs.

@Poz50something, your testimony is powerful, and I appreciate your honesty. It’s a strong reminder of the consequences that some experiences can have. I firmly believe that sex should remain a moment of pleasure and clarity, not something ruined by substances that alter perception and experience. Your story really highlights that it’s never trivial.

Personally, I try to be clear from the start with my partners about my expectations and boundaries. I’d love to know how you guys bring up the topic with new people. Do you ask directly? Do you wait for signs that might indicate drug use? I'm curious to hear your approaches to avoiding these kinds of situations.

Thanks again for the discussion!

[jeff238]

Thanks for the acknowledgement Alex. It's always nice when you don't get hate for everything.

The vetting process is frustrating at times. At a bathouse or some spontaneous venue is always going to be a crap shoot. On line is somewhat easier, but has its own problems. Im probably not saying anything new. Since I'm an INTJ, I try to research as much as I can, both actively and passively.

I like long encounters, so it's worth it to me to spend some time gathering data. It's not as clinical as it sounds. I am often disappointed when I discover that a possible partner crosses a hard line that I have set.

For instance, I used to like Asian guys, but for whatever reason, in my experience they are very guarded, and so are hard to get to know. My latest interest, in the last 5 years or so, is black guys, not for the mythical "BBC", but they have most of the physical features i find hot. The problem for me is that I live in a place that have virtually no POC. Sure I could drive up state and find some, maybe. I'll leave it at that. It's hard to articulate.

I'm at the age where it's just not as important to play the game as it used to be. So I just have to be satisfied with living vicariously.