nanana Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago The first American Pope Leone XIV (was Robert Francis Cardinal Prevost from Chicago) is described as a fierce opponent of same-sex marriage and gender studies in classrooms. "Peace be with all of you!" - the first words of the 267th Bishop of Rome. Sounds as if he has taken actions against these things he doesn't like rather than co-existing. And the wheels of the Popemobile turn like lady fortune.... I am not Catholic but did appreciate Pope Francis' ability to co-exist even if he didn't approve of things, even pursue reconciliation and love.
Moderators viking8x6 Posted 3 hours ago Moderators Report Posted 3 hours ago Apparently, like many other Americans, he has difficulty with some of the shorter words in English. "All", for example. 2 3
ellentonboy Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 26 minutes ago, nanana said: The first American Pope Leone XIV (was Robert Francis Cardinal Prevost from Chicago) is described as a fierce opponent of same-sex marriage and gender studies in classrooms. "Peace be with all of you!" - the first words of the 267th Bishop of Rome. Sounds as if he has taken actions against these things he doesn't like rather than co-existing. And the wheels of the Popemobile turn like lady fortune.... I am not Catholic but did appreciate Pope Francis' ability to co-exist even if he didn't approve of things, even pursue reconciliation and love. Curious as to where you got your information that he is a “fierce opponent of same-sex marriage and gender studies in the classroom”. Has he published articles on his opinions? Francis would not approve of same sex marriages but it was known he would not interfere if a priest was willing to “bless” a same sex union. 1
nanana Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Posted 3 hours ago (edited) It's definitely not deep knowledge on my part, I had never heard of him. The quotes from the NYTimes say he expressed disappointment that some Western media held "sympathy for beliefs and practices that are at odds with the gospel," in particular, the "homosexual lifestyle" and "alternative families comprised of same-sex partners and their adopted children." Prevost also opposed a government plan in Peru to add gender studies instruction in classrooms, telling local media "The promotion of gender ideology is confusing, because it seeks to create genders that don’t exist." But it is a first impression. Often people exhibit many dimensions, and it is very hard to summarize an entire future-life from past actions. I am personally more concerned not about his beliefs but about how he puts them into action; hoping non-violence/tolerance will inform his actions. The NYTimes has been wrong before... Here's his twitter feed if folks wish to do more research: Edited 2 hours ago by nanana Added twitter feed... 1
topblkmale Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago Leave Pope Leone XIV alone. He just had to sit on a rim seat and have his balls checked by an assortment of Cardinals. 4
RotzBBengel Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, topblkmale said: Leave Pope Leone XIV alone. He just had to sit on a rim seat and have his balls checked by an assortment of Cardinals. Thanks to Pope Joan, they gotta make sure the Pope ain't got a pussy...
RubberAustria Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago How much did uncle Donald pay to the other cardinals? And Leo had a strange look. I think he was huffing on poppers on the rim seat. Amen.
SomewhereonNeptune Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago I wish him well, and it seems like the conclave coalesced around a new Pope in nearly record time. As a New Yorker, I'd hoped for Dolan as he's more charismatic and pragmatic in nature, but having a Pope from the US is a pretty big step for an institution that has almost never gone outside Europe for a choice. For those unaware, the Methodist Church came through a schism that basically split the church into factions that supported full inclusion of LGBTQIA++ persons, and those who took a harder line. And there are a lot fewer Methodist churches as a result (an Aunt's church recently split into a non-denominational aligned with old Methodism). What I hope is that the pendulum doesn't swing so far as to create another schism in the Catholic Church. A number of commentators are suggesting that his views align with Francis who really edged the church toward being more liberal (Catholicism doesn't change quickly or radically, so don't expect married Catholic clergy or gay weddings in our lifetimes), so guess we'll see how it plays out.
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