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1 hour ago, Spider54 said:

Yeah that’s a little absurd.

 

See I get that a lot, I’m not just looking to suck dick I want to get fucked or fuck someone I get rejected when I say that. I just say there loss thy lose out on some good head and a good fuck. 

I'm starting to see a lot of profiles on the apps that state something along the lines of "not into just sucking, if you don't fuck we aren't a match" or "no sides", mostly when I travel. I will be putting it on my profiles next time I travel. I'm not sure you could get away with it here in the PNW, where indicating you want to fuck is pretty much forbidden, plus it doesn't help at the bathhouse or other cruising spots.

I don't envy @yoursinmine trying to lose his virginity in an area that is full of "sides", I lost mine almost 20 years before I discovered their were regions where cruising to fuck was uncommon and not really welcome. I manage to find, try to hookup and piss off a committed side at least a couple of times a month if I don't get some fucking when I'm traveling. A guy gets desperate.

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14 hours ago, NWUSHorny said:

I'm starting to see a lot of profiles on the apps that state something along the lines of "not into just sucking, if you don't fuck we aren't a match" or "no sides", mostly when I travel. I will be putting it on my profiles next time I travel. I'm not sure you could get away with it here in the PNW, where indicating you want to fuck is pretty much forbidden, plus it doesn't help at the bathhouse or other cruising spots.

I don't envy @yoursinmine trying to lose his virginity in an area that is full of "sides", I lost mine almost 20 years before I discovered their were regions where cruising to fuck was uncommon and not really welcome. I manage to find, try to hookup and piss off a committed side at least a couple of times a month if I don't get some fucking when I'm traveling. A guy gets desperate.

If all the pleasure a guy is going to get is while his ass is filled; I probably would pass.  There is so much pleasure with each other to be enjoyed before or after specifically "fucking"; do we just ignore that?  I hope not, I certainly don't.  Approaching physical intimacy with a checklist doesn't seem like intimacy.  An AI run machine could fulfill the desire then...

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Hey, cool discussion, thanks for starting it @Spider54.

i think the distinction or "weird' is more individual than universal and that we reach that conclusion (and sustain it?) because we seek out people who share stuff like our desires and needs.  

i visited France and learned they eat mayonnaise on their pom frites (French fries), and my emotional, then cognitive response was: "weird."  In their case, my desire for ketchup was not so much "weird" but "stupid, uncultured American" lol.  

Recently? i've found myself rejected because i'm tall and slender. To me, it should not get to that point, at least, not if they're approaching me... given my screen name. But i've encountered quite a few very fit, gym bodies guys who reject me because they want their partner to have  a "big belly."  Fit shaming? lol. Nah, because they're often super fit. Cognitively i can rationalize that they are individuals and there is nothing 'wrong' with their desire/need because it's different... or doesn't align with mine. But emotionally? my feelings don't necessarily or automatically agree with my rationale, and i may still feel inferior, or 'not good enough,' or something is 'wrong' with me, or_________,  because part of the energy behind hook up is a desire/need for affirmation. Then another part of me says they're "weird" lol. 

The longer i live and ponder such stuff, the more i credit nurture over nature, though i think both factor in.  And the more i go that direction, the more i identify and question culturally conditioned notions, norms that feed our desires.  

We are all conditioned to some degree or other by environment, and we all come into the world  with genetic dispositions... and to further muddy up the waters, we (i think more often than not) cannot unequivocally identify why we are the way we are, let alone judge our position superior and those who are different as inferior or "weird."  

i consider myself fortunate because i have a FB who wants to breed me 3-4x a week, going on 6 years now. He's young, energetic, gym ripped and horny. i'm decidedly... opposite.  But for some reason, our opposite desires complement each other and we apparently fill a need/desire in each other. And damn, life is fluid. All my profiles still read: that i'm "total bottom,"  but for the last year or so, we end up flip fucking almost every time... and i also end up eating his ass, even though i've long emotionally identified that as a "Top" desire.  Weird. 

 

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This was years ago, but ..... at the tubs over in boystown, I was about to lay pipe when the bottom just got up and said - and this is a direct quote - "sorry, you just look too much like my brother", and walked away.  I was simply rendered speechless .... 

And no, I don't have any biological brothers.  

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I have too many, on this comment I'll highlight some racial rejections I've had.

I'm a bit racially ambiguous at times (as a mixed mutt), so depending on how I dress or style myself (i've had shorter hair, longer hair, been more tan or less), people often make assumptions on what I might be. Guys who think think I'm fully-Latino and have a Latino fetish have been turned off when I don't speak Spanish or have an accent.

When I was younger a lot of white dudes often hit on me thinking I was Asian and rejected me when we met in person or analyzed face pics online lol. They just saw a body and style I guess?

I've had guys hit on me in a club thinking I was middle eastern and fall off when I wasn't...

I've been able to play into race stuff, or just exist outside of it at times and it's fascinating most people can't shift in and out of passibility racially.

It used to be upsetting when I was younger but I realized it's not me - it's them.

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2 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

Hey, cool discussion, thanks for starting it @Spider54.

i think the distinction or "weird' is more individual than universal and that we reach that conclusion (and sustain it?) because we seek out people who share stuff like our desires and needs.  

i visited France and learned they eat mayonnaise on their pom frites (French fries), and my emotional, then cognitive response was: "weird."  In their case, my desire for ketchup was not so much "weird" but "stupid, uncultured American" lol.  

Recently? i've found myself rejected because i'm tall and slender. To me, it should not get to that point, at least, not if they're approaching me... given my screen name. But i've encountered quite a few very fit, gym bodies guys who reject me because they want their partner to have  a "big belly."  Fit shaming? lol. Nah, because they're often super fit. Cognitively i can rationalize that they are individuals and there is nothing 'wrong' with their desire/need because it's different... or doesn't align with mine. But emotionally? my feelings don't necessarily or automatically agree with my rationale, and i may still feel inferior, or 'not good enough,' or something is 'wrong' with me, or_________,  because part of the energy behind hook up is a desire/need for affirmation. Then another part of me says they're "weird" lol. 

The longer i live and ponder such stuff, the more i credit nurture over nature, though i think both factor in.  And the more i go that direction, the more i identify and question culturally conditioned notions, norms that feed our desires.  

We are all conditioned to some degree or other by environment, and we all come into the world  with genetic dispositions... and to further muddy up the waters, we (i think more often than not) cannot unequivocally identify why we are the way we are, let alone judge our position superior and those who are different as inferior or "weird."  

i consider myself fortunate because i have a FB who wants to breed me 3-4x a week, going on 6 years now. He's young, energetic, gym ripped and horny. i'm decidedly... opposite.  But for some reason, our opposite desires complement each other and we apparently fill a need/desire in each other. And damn, life is fluid. All my profiles still read: that i'm "total bottom,"  but for the last year or so, we end up flip fucking almost every time... and i also end up eating his ass, even though i've long emotionally identified that as a "Top" desire.  Weird. 

 

I understand weird is definitely subjective that’s why I started it, because something I think may be normal is weird for someone else it’s just a nice easy topic to meet new people with and hear there experiences you know, I love people and learning about them so this is a great eye opener.

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6 minutes ago, BruxoCub said:

I have too many, on this comment I'll highlight some racial rejections I've had.

I'm a bit racially ambiguous at times (as a mixed mutt), so depending on how I dress or style myself (i've had shorter hair, longer hair, been more tan or less), people often make assumptions on what I might be. Guys who think think I'm fully-Latino and have a Latino fetish have been turned off when I don't speak Spanish or have an accent.

When I was younger a lot of white dudes often hit on me thinking I was Asian and rejected me when we met in person or analyzed face pics online lol. They just saw a body and style I guess?

I've had guys hit on me in a club thinking I was middle eastern and fall off when I wasn't...

I've been able to play into race stuff, or just exist outside of it at times and it's fascinating most people can't shift in and out of passibility racially.

It used to be upsetting when I was younger but I realized it's not me - it's them.

Damn that sucks, but hey it’s all them and I’m happy you’ve realized that! It’s there loss for missing out on some what I can probably say is good dick.

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I paint my nails sometimes and while getting a blowjob, some dude stopped sucking my dick saying that's too fem for him LOL., I literally had a boner in your mouth when you noticed? lol. If I recall this particular nail paint wasn't a crazy shade, it was either a dark slate or deep blue, so it had a rock-band vibe.

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11 minutes ago, BruxoCub said:

but I realized it's not me - it's them.

Great !!!  That's usually the case when guys are rejected for some silly, means-nothing excuse. 

It's definitely them.

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Just now, Spider54 said:

Damn that sucks, but hey it’s all them and I’m happy you’ve realized that! It’s there loss for missing out on some what I can probably say is good dick.

Thanks, I definitely internalized it a lot when younger and would try and play up to what other people wanted. For what? A half-decent fuck now and then or a hookup with someone who has some weird blinders on and is a hot mess. When were young we just want people to like us I guess.

At some point I just dropped the whole marketing myself for the gaze of the gay masses and just play around with all the pieces of who I am. I've found more enjoyment in being someones shot of whiskey, not everyones cup of tea. It's unlocked some STRANGE encounters, I've worn heels to a straight club with friends and ended up topping a coke dealer in a bathroom.

When one door closes, another hole opens. lol.

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@BruxoCub I understand that for sure I was always a bit more independent but I desperately wanted to liked, but I’ve always been a bit more independent I’ve been, told no because I didnt want to shave my self baby smooth though now I get comments all the time my ginger hair is sexy or a turn on. But we learn grow and adapt 

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i seem to fall for the same scam over and over. 

a guy next door type posts that he's sick of the shallow and superficial gay community. he's looking for a true emotional and intellectual connection and about to give up hope. 

i ask if he'd like to meet and see if we hit if off. 

he replies basically: not you! i'm looking for a deep emotional and intellectual connection with a tall GL muscle jock DJ w a huge dick. 

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