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List why condoms are just wrong!


Hey guys, I'm in a gay youth forum that explores kinks and self image.  I'm fully out as a bb only sub and pro-HIV, so I get a lot of questions about why I only serve and submit to bareback (Poz) tops.  So one of the guys I'm serving suggested I write up a list for the forum with reasons as to why condoms have no place in sex.

This is what I came up with and thought I'd share it here too.  I'm a sub/slave so it's from that perspective. 

  1.  Reduced pleasure. Taking the time to get, open and put on a condom kills the moment.
  2.  Eliminates intimacy/commitment. Kills intimacy by putting a physical and mental barrier between you and your top. It also puts up a barrier of mistrust and non-acceptance of your top.
  3.  Extremely bad for the environment especially marine life. Condoms are not biodegradable at all.
  4.  The hottest porn stars don't use them. Think of the porn you watch. Which films do you find hotter?  Ones where the actors use condoms or go bare?
  5.  They aren't compatible with all lubes. The lube you're using might not be the right one and degrade the condom anyway.
  6.  Pre-cum is a natural lubricant that gets blocked with condoms.  And precum is the best lube and probably all you'll ever need. So don't block it.
  7.  Using condoms is not sex. Your top is there to fuck you, not a latex sheath.  He could get the same thing fucking a fleshlight as he would fucking you with a condom.
  8.  Bad for your hole. Friction, tears.  Condoms need lube, special condom friendly lube which is also bad for the environment.  If you go without lube or just use a little bit, it can really do damage to your hole and create an unpleasant experience.
  9.  The taste, smell and look. Condoms bring an unpleasant odor, leave a horrible aftertaste on your top's cock, and just genuinely look bad. You love dick, so why hide it with latex.
  10.  They don't stop all STDs.  If you're power bottom, sub, cum dump, whore or whatever, you're going to other STDs even with condoms.
  11.  Absolutely nobody likes them.  As a sub why would you ask your top or Dom to do something that was unpleasurable for them?

What do you think?  Any suggestions or comments?

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Only two comments/suggestions:

Item 6 "Pre-cum is a natural lubricant that gets blocked with condoms." - The main point is true, Pre-cum gets blocked by condoms.  However I disagree that pre-cum is all that most people need for (comfortable) penetration.  Pre-cum is nice 'n slick, delicious, etc, but some people produce only a small amount and others drip gobs of it.  My experience has been that you usually need something in addition (spit, 'proper' store-bought lube, etc) to help it out.  I would change it to a bullet point about condoms requiring more and different lube.  Maybe re-work part of your wording in point 8 into this revised bullet point.  Something like: "6. Condoms require more lube than going bare - Condoms require lots of lube, otherwise the increased friction will damage your hole and make you hurt.  Sex shouldn't hurt..  Condom-compatible lubes can also be worse for the environment than regular lubes."

Item 4 "The hottest porn stars don't use them.".  I agree with what you're trying to go for in general, but I'd re-word it to "The hottest porn is always bareback" and re-work the rest of the line accordingly.  I've seen a lot of really hot young guys in porn that use condoms.  The condom is an instant boner-killer, but the guys themselves are undeniably hot.  I'd also move it down towards the bottom of the list, since this is more of a subjective point, and most of the rest are more fact-based.  I'd list the fact-based points first. For that reason, I'd swap points 7 and 8, and move this one to where 9 currently is (or at least after 7).

In general, I like it.  It's well thought out, and I commend you for bringing this point of view into your gay youth group.  Gay youth, just like gay adults, need to look at all sides of an issue and make their own informed decisions, rather than just blindly do what other people in their life tell them.  In school all they hear is either "always use condoms" or "don't have sex at all".  You're giving them another viewpoint, and backing it up with logical reasoning.  Good job!

Btw in your header you mentioned that you're out to them as 'pro-HIV'.  I'd stress to your group that they can be anti-condom but still not be pro-HIV.  All of the points in your list are valid regardless of whether they are on PReP, or want to be come chasers like yourself.  The list is all about reasons not to use condoms.  Being an active chaser is an entirely different matter (though if they want to go down that road too, that's very cool :) )

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Whenever I’ve bottomed, I’ve found it so so much easier and more comfortable bb. I think the pre cum really does help massively, but also the lubes which work best for me aren’t compatible with condoms. I also think my body just doesn’t like condoms or react well to them.

As a top, I hate them. I can’t feel anything with them and they kill the mood.

Can you even believe some guys have asked me to suck them wearing a condom?! The mere thought of it makes me feel sick! What’s wrong with some guys?

Men are meant to fuck bb, it’s a fact of life. I’d never go back! The day I decided to go exclusively bb was the best day in my sex life.

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>Extremely bad for the environment especially marine life. Condoms are not biodegradable at all.

Learned something new today, so ty!

>I found lambskin

Sounds archaic -- I like archaic 🙂  Some historians say small parts of animal guts were used as "condoms", like intestines.  Far more biodegradable, but probably smelled horrific -- and that prevented sex altogether LOL! 😄

41 minutes ago, DianaTSSlut said:

Condoms put a barrier between a guy’s hot load and my pussy aching for it to be shot deep. 

No bueno.

- Di ❤️

Amen! I have no issue with a guy using one to start - for easy lubrication only - but once he's in he'd best be taking that thing off. I want to enjoy that friction. Oh and no pulling out either! Damn I hate when a guy pulls out and then strokes himself off over my ass.

Not that I disagree in principle, but I feel obliged to point out that item 4 is a highly subjective measure, and item seven is a matter of opinion subject to definition.

On 12/31/2021 at 2:54 AM, Chrisb said:

I found lambskin condoms made from lambskin

These may be biodegradable and thus better for the environment, but what about the sheep? Are you fine with lambs being led to slaughter so you can fuck with a marginally more sensitive condom full of microscopic holes that defeat its entire purpose?

I'm waiting for the kink community to invent sharkskin condoms made from sharkskin. Shark skin is like sandpaper.

Some other ways in which condoms are wrong (and there are plenty more)

They take away the amazing pleasure of arse-to-mouth. Sucking a cock after it has been up my cunt or somebody else's drives me wild. That taste and smell. Cleaning a man off is the height of a subs experience.

And if you are from my generation and have had decades of being told you must use a condom, then the thrill of breaking the rules by going raw is amazing.

The thrill of cum leaking out of your hole, later. Doesn't happen to me much because mine is tight as a bank vault, but when it does its so slutty

1 hour ago, fatbottom said:

 

And if you are from my generation and have had decades of being told you must use a condom, then the thrill of breaking the rules by going raw is amazing.

The thrill of cum leaking out of your hole, later. Doesn't happen to me much because mine is tight as a bank vault, but when it does its so slutty

Couldn’t agree more!! I particularly love the feeling of the cum oozing out of my arse and running down my balls and legs 💦☣️😈

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My opinion, as a POZ bottom :

 1. Reduced pleasure. Part of the pleasure is to make sure the top will unload his cum in me.

2. Eliminates intimacy/commitment. The need and time to enter in me come naturally, the top must not be stopped in his desire.

3. Extremely bad for the environment especially marine life. As all plastic bags.

4. The hottest porn stars don't use them. Not concerned

5. They aren't compatible with all lubes. See 6.

6. Pre-cum is a natural lubricant that gets blocked with condoms. Without condom, we are always ready to fuck or get fuked. Nothing to do with a statement like "omfg, I forgot the lube, I can't fuck you !"

7. Using condoms is not sex. It is like a cake you won't eat it wrapped !

 8. Bad for your hole. Friction, tears.  No experience. Except cruel condoms maybe.

 9. The taste, smell and look. See 7.

10. They don't stop all STDs.  Anyway, I don't accept anything that would prevent me from collecting HIV from a top.

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I am a huge cumpig so condoms would ruin what I love.  I like a guy blowing his load in me and knowing I have a load in me. I like another guy to use that cum to shove his raw cock in me and fill me with more come and I like tasting the loads when I suck his dick.  I like the sound when I am getting fucked with an ass full of loads I took and I feel so slutty when those loads are leaking out.

i like when a bunch of guys have unloaded in me and I don’t even know who they are. Or how many loads I took.

I like guys sliding in me and realizing my hole is full of cum and  I am more of a slut than they expected, 

I like when I hear someone tell the guy about to fuck me that no one wears a condom to fuck me just shoot deep in me. 
 I like getting a mouthful of cum, or a face covered in it, or a load for my add

guys shooting in my mouth

I like kissing cum back and forth. 
 I like that I don’t waste energy putting on a condom when cum is so hot to me. 
 

And the can’t be good for the environment, either.

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