hungry_hole

11 hours ago, ErosWired said:

I find myself in the unusual position of training a 21-year-old guy how to Top. I, of course, am a total bottom, so it's not unlike a horse teaching horseback riding, yet here I am.

He may a bottom. Imagine yourself at 21 years old and someone trying to train you as a top. Why would you assume he's a top?

On 2/20/2019 at 2:03 PM, tallslenderguy said:

i read it. It supports the contention that several are making about the blindness that often comes with privilege. If you look at the "compass," one of the points is "attack others," and more specifically: "turning the tables" and "blaming the victim."   The OP is from a black person who identified and explained a racist term and further explained how it makes him feel and why it is offensive.  

Some responded by "turning the tables" and "blaming the victim," out of "shame."   

Shame is the emotion most feared because it feels awful, more than every other emotion.  There are parts of feeling angry or sad that feel good, but there is NOTHING about shame that feels good. Everybody knows it which is why when you desire something bad on someone else we use the phrase "Shame on you!" as a way of punishment.

Because of the torturing characteristics of shame the Compass of Shame suggests 4 ways that people use to deal with the awful feelings of shame. When people experience shame, which cannot be sustained because of the awful feelings that it causes, shame transforms into Anger (attack others) or self put-down (Attack self) as a response.

Turning the tables refers to times when someone feeling shame instead of that person continuing feeling shame, they "turn the table" and lash out at what they believe the source of the shame is. A good example is homophobia, which is fear of the shame that being perceived as gay. If you are going down the street and you encounter a group of "straight" guys and for some reason you refer to someone as "you faggot" that man will feel shame of being perceived as gay by his peers so he will lash out with violence against the source of the shame he's feeling. That is the meaning of "turning the table".

The two other 2 poles of the Compass of Shame are also common ways in which people react to shame. Withdrawal represents the case when people confronted with shame want to bury themselves in a hole and disappear.

The most common way people use to deal with shame is Avoidance which takes many forms but very common in religious people where their religious texts guides them to avoid anything that may trigger shame which is why they oppose homosexuality and many other socially shameful: " Out of sight, out of mind." It's the most common way of dealing with shame by avoiding it all together.

Society is so afraid of shame that it presents it as something we should never feel, like sin, so we have invented words to refer to shame like "low self-esteem", "shyness" and "offensive".

I'm sure you've all noticed that in hook-up Apps like Grindr the young hot guys have clear pictures of themselves and feel proud of their looks but many older men are not that eager to show their face or body. Many would say that it's because of Ageism but it's really because of shame of looking old.

2 minutes ago, DrrAld said:

 If you want to continue living in your little bubble, that’s your prerogative.

Did you read about the Compass of Shame? ( https://www.iirp.edu/defining-restorative/compass-of-shame). It's not my "little bubble" as you say. You can also read about Homophobia and shame http://safestsex.org/aboutmen-en.php#5505 and you'll see that is not my "little bubble".

On 2/18/2019 at 10:02 AM, jockhrychest said:

@hungry_hole, you are way off base. My background is in psychology. Shamefulness is not the same as being offended by something. The emotions that a black person experiences from being called the N-word, for example, may include disgust, anger, or frustration but never shame. 

You may have a "background in psychology" but you are still wrong because shame hides behind many other emotions. Because shame is such a unpleasant feeling people don't stay on the shame for too long and they switch to other emotions such as anger and depression. Check out The Compass of Shame by Donald Nathanson: https://www.iirp.edu/defining-restorative/compass-of-shame

People don't want to talk about shame so things like "low self esteem" exists but in fact people with low self esteem just have a lot of trouble dealing with shame. "Being offended" is another way of talking about shame without naming it. People who deal well with shame are not offended.

On 2/8/2019 at 7:53 PM, Cle216fkr said:

Typical white guy rebuttal smh

I would prefer that instead of you focusing on the color of my skin, you focused on the censorship issue and gave an opinion.

Do you think that other words used by men, like Bear, Rice Queen, etc, should also be retired? How about offensive attitudes towards horny older men? I would not retire any of them.

12 hours ago, 2014Anthony said:

Don't know about the rest of u guys, but I for one am sick to death of PC creeping into every aspect of my life including now the bedroom.  When did we stop being adults and becum so fucking soft and easily offended over every fucking thing?.. Tired of being sensored and told what to say and all in the name of Political  fucking Correctness..  shove a dick down my throat,  cum down my throat you can even piss down my throat but my response to those who are pushing this ... stop shoving this PC shit down my throat.

I couldn't agree more!

The PC movement has transformed itself into a nasty hidden form of censorship, not becoming of a society that prides itself for it's freedom.  Censorship is never good  but PC attitude is so nasty because it hides behind the cloak of "being nice".

The emotion "being offended" does not exist and really what they are saying is "I feel ashamed". My suggestion to people who are easily offended would to learn to deal with your shame instead of expecting the rest of the world to avoid any mention of situations that may trigger shame.

Should we then retire the term "Bear", who may offend these poor men who are "treated like an animal"?

For me stealthing is totally OK in anonymous sex, at a bathhouse or Cumunion event, but not OK in most other situations.

18 hours ago, Cuntboyfury said:

“BBC”is clearly based in racism.  It is completely a fetish.  Guys who are only interested in size simply need to say “hung”. People who ask for “BBC” find the idea of being submissive to a black man more.  Whether it’s more degrading, shameful, exciting, etc.  

i never thought of it as offensive, but I’m white.  Thinking about it, it is obviously offensive.  White people absolutely should shy away from using “BBC”.  

 

I enjoy the anonymous sex scene/talk between men because it's hot but also because it's free from the Politically Correct nonsense that keeps censoring society. Sex profiles can say freely say that they don't like Asians or old guys, or whatever. For someone like myself tired of the PC bullshit, I find this refreshing. And BBC is part of the this PC-less language that I love.

I was in my early 20's and discovered the YMCA in New York City. At least two of top floors were rented as rooms for men only and the first night I rented a room there was a guy getting fucked and taking loads across the hall for my room. Guys would walk in and fuck him, some would leave door open. That bottom was not there the following night so I took over and left my door open and it was turn to service those cocks. I was young and in very good shape so it was easy to get some action. By the way, all the current talk about bareback, breeding, bottom and top was not as popular as it is today.

On 1/13/2019 at 10:55 PM, Rickmaxwell said:

It's most definately wrong, I absolutely love being a bottom slut for rough dom daddy(s)  but I'm always addiment about them wearing condoms, unfortunately the nature of the men I let fuck me are the type of men who will decide my wishes are worthless and more often than not they end up taking off the condom or the occasional "it broke" 

I you expect that anonymous daddies will always respect your will you are being naive.

This may not be what you want to hear but you can protect yourself from being stealth by simply avoiding being bred by anonymous cocks. When the action is anonymous you are no more than an anonymous hole that a top wants to breed and fulfill his fetish without any concern for you. That's the nature of anonymous action.

When I visit Toronto I like staying in a 24-hour room at Spa Excess

On 8/13/2018 at 8:41 PM, Txyyxxxb said:

... Being a guy on the more modest, smaller side of the spectrum (5.5in) I feel discouraged about the whole idea of topping. It's one of the many insecurities I have about myself.

If you feel self-conscious of your cock size but you want to try to fuck and breed a hole, it may be better if you go to a bathhouse on a busy night and try topping in a gangbang situation, when some cumwhore bottom is offering his hole to horny guys. Especially when a few guys are gathered around a bottom getting fucked on a sling would be the perfect opportunity for you to step forward because in gangbang situations bottoms are not really picky about looks or cock size.

7 hours ago, ErosWired said:

@hungry_hole -  No, what I describe absolutely does not happen to almost every guy after they ejaculate, and no, I am far from “clueless” about how male sexuality works. I just disagree with your unsupportable claims, and your openly judgmental opinions. Please, spare us both your armchair psychology and your thinly veiled hostility. If you’ve got a beef with me, either hash it out privately or just block me, but don’t embarrass yourself on the open boards. I’d rather agree to disagree and not get personal about it.

Drama queen

On 11/18/2018 at 12:28 PM, ErosWired said:

... when I do [ejaculate], I feel a sense of self-loathing immediately afterward, every single time. I do not jack off after a night of anal service.

This caught my attention because it shows that many men are clueless about how male sexuality works.

What ErosWired describes happens to him when he cums happens to almost every guy after they shoot their load, whether they are a top, bottom, straight, gay, cumdumps. I've read here bottoms describing their "annoying case" that after they shoot their loads they are done, as if it was something particular to them. Weird. This is why I once mentioned that many bottoms are self-centered, thinking that it only happens to them.

What distinguishes guys who top from those who prefer not to, is that "tops" really enjoy the fucking itself, can stay hard for a long time, and a very powerful breeding experience. So I say I'm a bottom because I'm not a very good top but I know that if I enjoyed fucking as much as some guys who've fucked me, I would also be a top.

On 11/19/2018 at 1:18 AM, kdk183 said:

My posts keep getting flagged yet I can find others in my area that say worse.  I think it's because my first ads were pushing the limits and now they automatically check my thoroughly!  Some stuff that was allowed in the beginning is now off limits.

I was afraid that my posts would not be accepted in Doublelist but haven't had any problems with this ad. I noticed that when the message comes up about the language on the ad, it's sometimes a warning.

I find it interesting that although I have no age on my ad, no one has asked my age or anything about me. All they have wanted is a blow job and some have asked for breeding through the gloryhole.

No problems with this ad of mine
 

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Private gloryh@le 2pm - 4pm (near merivale mall) (nepean)
I have a private gloryh@le in my apartment, available on request, Merivale Mall area (Nepean). Interested in totally anonymous action, you won't see me and I won't see you. I just want your cock and your load. Not interested in your age or your shape although guys with big bellies are not good for gloryholes.

Here's the scoop. Once we confirm a time I'll give you the building address and ring number.

After you punch the ring number I'll let you into the building and give you the apartment number. The door of the apartment will be unlocked, so you just walk in and the gloryhole will be on your right. It will be covered so I don't see you and you don't see me. Approach the GH, unzip and my mouth will be waiting for your flaccid or hard cock. I love to feel a flaccid cock and have it grow in my mouth.

I can suck you and I'd love to swallow your cum. I love oral, but if you'd like do drill a hungry cumholle you just let me know and I'll have a clean lubed hole waiting for you and for your load. Either way, when you're done pumping your load in my cumholle, just clean yourself and leave. No talk unless it's dirty talk.

 

On 11/19/2018 at 12:48 AM, Kayne said:

Our government at work...

And Americans keep blabbing about how free their country is. Really?

32 minutes ago, Cumfilledbottomboi said:

No.  I’m not a woman. But I’m biologically wired to be the bottom.

Biologically wired to be a bottom?  This is the kind of statement I find ridiculous, to view being a bottom as a religion.  I'm a bottom because I don't last too long fucking and keeping a hard-on, because I'm sure guys are tops because they enjoy the fucking which they can do for a long time. I would probably be a top too.

You are biologically and "wired" as a man, with prostate, cock that gets hard and can shoot a load, even in your DNA. You can choose what you want to do with your equipment and in your case bottoming is what makes you feel comfortable. You can breed a hole, just like you like your hole bred, but you refuse to top by saying that you are "wired" to be a bottom. Many supposedly wired-bottoms do a good job fucking and breeding when too horny or if they have problems with their hole, hemorrhoids, etc.

I recently contacted an Xtube member (Trittyler)  who has lots of videos of him taking loads, he's a bottom, probably "wired" as you say. But in the past few months he's been posting videos of him topping and breeding all kinds of holes. I was curious and he told me that he had some surgery in the anal area and that soon he'll be back bottoming. But he can top and very well, and you can probably top too.

I'm asking for all bottoms to breed other holes but what I'm saying is that a bottom can still fuck and keep being a bottom. @Cumfilledbottomboi, try fucking because you are "wired" and have all the equipment to top.

5 hours ago, ErosWired said:

You do realize, don’t you, that your statistic also demonstrates that 43% do not give loads, which means that just under half your sample does not enjoy fucking s sloppy anon hole, and whether you believe them or not doesn’t change that fact one iota.

I don’t mean to keep yanking your chain, man, but this is not science, or even good statistical analysis.

You're wrong! With my BarebackRT stats I'm showing  that there are many "Total Bottoms" who also breed holes without having to call themselves Versatile-Bottoms. They are just bottoms who when horny at the sauna and want to go home, instead of jerking off they find another bottom's hole to dump their load. And they are still bottoms!

Plus, many of the bottoms who say they don't give loads probably occasionally do because they are men and they get horny too. I'm sure many say they don't give loads because that way nobody is going to ask them to fuck them.

Being a bottom is not like being a woman who biologically can't fuck a hole. Being a bottom or a top is just a preference for the role that makes you feel more comfortable and enjoyable.

Some believe that being a bottom brings a man closer to being a woman, one example, that a bottom like a woman can never fuck and breed other holes. From my own experience as a bottom I know we get horny just the same as a guy who calls himself a top.

I can believe a guy who says he cannot take cock up his ass but I cannot believe a bottom who says he has never for instance, enjoyed fucking a sloppy anon hole and adding to the mix. I know it because I've been bred by bottoms and I can't really tell the difference with when a top breeds my hole.

I did some searches in BarebackRT in the city of Vancouver. Search results are shown in groups of 20 and I have the results in number of pages, the last page being usually having less that 20 profiles. Results:
 

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Bottoms..................................................................................................... 21 pages of results (~410)

Bottoms who take loads..................................................................... 18 pages of results (~350)

Bottoms who take loads and also give loads..............................  4 pages of results (~70)

Bottoms who take loads but could maybe also give loads.... 7 pages of results (~130)

 

Out of the 350 bottoms who take loads 57% may also give loads (70+130).

I find it Most Stupid when people refer to having sex as "sleeping", especially by guys in this site. C'mon, the use of the word "sleeping" is for people who are offended by sexually charged words.

I've read in this site comments like "I'm afraid to go to the clinic because I slept with so many guys at the bathhouse the other night."  Most stupid!

On 11/18/2018 at 1:37 PM, M4mnow2 said:

I’m heading to Seattle in a few weeks, I want to get fucked and used as much as I can. This is a fantasy of mine and I’m going to fulfill it!

You probably already know, but there's LOTS of competition for loads from cumhole bottoms, like never before because of PrEP and probably videos on the Internet with hot ideas for sex.

Once guys started relaxing with the use of condoms, I was one of the first barebackers in my area. For a top it was hard to find at the bathhouse a raw hole to dump his load and I took advantage of that. But now, the competition for loads is fierce.

2 minutes ago, reliableslut said:

I may be a cumdump, but I am also an occasional top and face-fucker.  Though not my favorite thing to do in the bedroom, I still love breeding ass and throat.

@reliableslut has just confirmed what I've been trying to say. That cumdumps don't have a special gene that doesn't let them top. Topping and bottoming are choices for sex and each man chooses the role that makes them feel more comfortable. Some guys can never bottom but not because they have more Testosterone but because they don't feel comfortable with something up the ass. I don't do toys and fisting because I don't enjoy it.

17 minutes ago, FaceLoad said:

It sounds to me like you think you deserve dick on demand and are complaining because random faggots are passing you by.

I haven't said anything about me deserving anything. All I'm saying is that more bottoms and cumdumps at the bathhouse should not feel that their Cumdump/Bottom identity is being threatened if they breed a hole.

8 hours ago, FaceLoad said:

You profoundly misunderstand faggot nature, probably because of the euphemistic nonsense of the terms "top" and "bottom". ...Unlike the average, possibly confused homosexual, a pure faggot is straightforwardly female for all sexual purposes and does not have the psychological wherewithal to think of itself as the man, much less to penetrate anyone. Its penis can give it pleasure, but is indistinguishable from a clitoris in this function.

This is sounding too religious and/or philosophical for me. This idea that bottoming is sublime is a common theme here.

The issue I'm arguing for is so simple and it only refers to bathhouse anon action. Bottoms who go to bathhouses and WHO CAN SHOOT LOADS but when horny and want to cum, they do not breed holes and instead jerk-off privately in their rooms, could do better for their fellow bottoms, One day it will be their turn when on a sling and another bottom who just wants to unload breeds his hole.

4 hours ago, smileatyou said:

Not when I'm bottoming. But I love to end a load-taking day by dumping mine in a bottom bitch like me. Enjoy telling a bottom, as I'm breeding him, that I just took a bunch of strangers' loads myself. 

This is a bottom that I would not call a greedy bottom because at the end of the load-taking day he is generous with other bottoms and makes them happy by pumping his load in their hole. He has a good time and the other bottom too.  And one day there will be another generous bottom that will return the favor. I've been bred by bottoms at a bathhouse and I really appreciate it.