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I very much enjoy a few untied ends where you leave some room for my imagination to fill. I think it's a real skill to get the balance right and you nailed it.

I've always thought that going from fantasy to action requires a step up in commitment and effort and that step for some is too big for their comfort zone - it's easier to stay home and have a wank, so they flake. Browsing profiles on an app, chatting on WhatsApp, or whatever requires very little effort. You don't have to be washed and dressed, you can do it while watching TV, drinking, eating, even in the company of others or at work, if you're discrete. It requires very little effort and no commitment. (Back when you had to sit in front of a PC and use a dial-up Modem, there was a bit more commitment involved so I think that why it was better. But now it is instantaneous in our pockets 24/7 and zero effort) Going out to meet someone requires some effort: for a bottom, being cleaned out. Some level of grooming, even if it's putting on your best jock under sweatpants. Travel to meet... if you're taking transport then there's a cost and time investment and if you're driving you can't surf other profiles while doing so. Its sounds basic, but it is a level of effort and commitment beyond sitting at home. Then there's the instant gratification factor - being wanted by someone you've seen on line and had horny chats with is more than enough for a lot of guys to knock out a quick wank of the fantasy of meeting and then that's that until the next time. For many the thrill of the chase and connecting with someone at this level validates their need to feel desirable and pumps their ego a little. These apps are designed to be addictive and make you spend hours on them to generate more advertising revenue. There's also the risk that if you met the other person they wouldn't live up to the mental model in your head you've constructed from talking to them or reading their profile - or most likely just looking at the pics. So... why I prefer going out to meet guys at places like cruising grounds, clubs, bars, saunas, etc is that they've committed to the hard part already - getting off their arses, preparing and going out. Because they're there, I know they are up for it. I don't think this'll change anytime soon, which is why places to meet other guys are so important.

Anyone got any good knitting patterns to swap? Although, remember to keep posts about Sewing & Macrame in the Hardcore S&M section or you'll get a warning for posting in the wrong section.

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I went yesterday with a friend - we travelled up from London and got there just after 12-midday. On the journey we were talking and convinced ourselves that a daytimeCumUnion party on a Tuesday wouldn't be that busy. Oh, how wrong we were! The place was rammed and it was almost impossible to find parking. The guy on the door said there were 260 guys in. The venue is very large - a similar size to Greenhouse Darlaston. The main differences from Greenhouse being that the steam room is a large cruise maze, not just a room and seems to be one of the hotspots for action. I'd recommend wearing slides as the hard plastic anti-slip flooring in here makes your soles quite sore after a while, and the steam softens the skin. The dry cruise areas are very maze-like and you really can get lost there. I only bumped into my friend twice in 6 hours. The guys skewed towards rough/tough blue-collar blokes over 40 - definitely more bears and hardly any twinks. For me this was perfect! Naked was enforced (towels not to be worn) and this usually would put me off, but actually the atmosphere was so positive it was not an issue at all. Top to bottom ratio was - as is usual - many bottoms and few tops, but the guys seemed more willing to play versatile, so there was plenty of fun to be had. Activity definitely seemed to peak around 2pm and after the free buffet it seemed to become less busy. Although they sell refreshments and snacks, there's no alcohol. We stayed until about 7pm by which time numbers had dwindled to about 20 and it seemed there was no 'after work' second wave to speak of. The staff were excellent and really friendly - couldn't have been more helpful. I've been to other CumUnion parties and found them hard going if you're not a gym bunny or over 40. This was totally different: it was just so much relaxed horny fun. So we were both really impressed and I think this is an amazing place. It was well worth the entry and a three hour drive there and back. I'm already booking a Tuesday off next month to do this again. The weekend CumUnion will likely attract a different crowd just because it is a weekend, and I'd also like to try their bears themed day.

Totally agree about preferring in-person meets. I'm looking forward to mid-week CumUnion tomorrow at Northwich Sauna. I was wondering if people's experience of the Apps is improved at the paid-for tiers or if it is the same. I also think that it is interesting that (for me) the most expensive is the worst, and the cheapest the best...

So an interesting sub question is of the online websites and apps which do you pay for and which do you just use at the free level? Which ones are worth paying for? Why? A quick survey of their costs for an annual subscription based on today's currency conversion rates: Grindr: £87 Squirt: £73 Scruff: £60 Recon: £56 NKP: £55 BBRT: £44

Just wondering if anyone has been to the midweek CumUnion on Tuesday at Northwich Sauna? Is it busy enough during the day/evening to make the trip from London worthwhile?

"Pants" at Central Station's Underground Club has recently reopened. Initially it's just Friday and Saturday afternoons from 1pm. [think before following links] https://clubpants.co.uk Last Friday was pretty busy.

Pre-covid, travelling abroad for work I used to try and stay the weekend wherever I was going and set something up. Had some great times in US, Europe and Japan. I am in the process of planning a tour of the West Midlands and NW UK. I want to visit Northwich Sauna for CumUnion and also take in Blackpool, Liverpool and Manchester.

Early 1990s: I remember the police used to show up at The Greyhound in Colnbrook (gay pub/club near Heathrow, long since closed) and make a big show of recording the car number-plates in the car park. They used to do this at many of the gay pubs in the suburbs. We think it was to match them with cars parked at known cruising spots. Everyone exiting the venue and getting into a car would get breath-tested. Around the same time I encountered (and was chased) by two policemen on horses at Hampstead Heath. Since it was dark I managed to lose them where there were some dense holly bushes and went back to the car park at jack straws castle to find there was a van load of police there and they were questioning people. I crept back to the holly bushes and waited until they left at dawn. My car had "Police aware" stickers stuck to the window when I got back to it.

Besides hanging out here, I'm really into Photography and follow Jared Polin on YouTube. His catchphrase is "I Shoot RAW" (as opposed to JPEG) and he sells t-shirts on his website with various designs that say "I Shoot Raw". He won't ship to the UK but I got a few shipped to a friend in the US and then sent across. They certainly attract all kinds of attention even in the local Tesco's!

To frame my experiences, I live in medium sized town in The Chilterns, south Buckinghamshire, population 120,000 about 30 miles from central London. YMMV. BBRT: In my town there isn't enough guys nearby to make this worthwhile. Closest guy is 6miles away. Only use it when travelling to a big city like Birmingham, Manchester, London. NKP: Again nearest guy is 6-7 Miles away and nearest top is 22 Miles away. This site seems more extreme, but the guys are fantasies and phantoms. When travelling in cities, there's a lot of "horny talk" but meets almost impossible. I am guessing guys are high and looking to get off with their hands. Grindr: More locals, but after a coupe of years its the same dozen or so guys on here all the time. Skews to the younger demographic and as I'm in my mid 40's I find myself being chatted up and then asked for £££ often. Especially near the end of semesters! Grindr when travelling is a much better experience. Fabguys: Seems to be more guys who are on the DL or being "discrete". Can be good very occasionally but can be a high time waster. Scruff: A few more locals, older demographic. Around here it seems to be a majority of guys looking for something more than a bit of fun. Recon: Very thin membership around here, but quite good focus on fetish interests. Have met most guys from here over the years. Expensive. Squirt: I mostly use their database of cruising spots when out and about. Never met anyone from here. Romeo: I really like the design of the app and site. In mainland Europe it's the best by far. In the UK, membership is thin and patchy, mostly big cities. It used to be good for catching travelling europeans in London, but not great with locals. My one criticism is that they allow you to set your location to anywhere, so you can end up talking to someone who you think is in Berlin, but in effect they are in Glasgow and visiting next month, just fishing. It's also not the place to find bi/straight guys on the DL, as it comes off a bit too gay to them. Sniffies: Too few people online to be viable here. Breeding.zone: This isn't a hookup site, but worth a mention because I have met a couple of great guys through corresponding on here. WhatsApp Groups / teleGram Groups etc.: There's a number of these for different interests. A lot of noise, fakery, and queeney princess behaviour - not much action. There was one that was 700+ messages a day, which is unmanageable. To be honest, I don't bother with the apps as much as I did. You can waste a whole night and not get a meet. Much better to drive to the local cruising spot, sauna, or head to somewhere like Hampstead or The Vault, where the chance of success is 100x better.

Ok here's my idea: Go on Amazon or eBay and search for "Biohazard" - thanks to the game Resident Evil, there's a ton of stuff with biohazard logos - pins, badges, bandanas, wristbands, necklaces, stickers, glow in the dark stickers, t-shirts, temporary tattoos... Pick something that's visible and we'll know who's who.

^^^ This is more important than anything you'll ever wear.

With you there... I went to a school that was fairly strict about uniform and sports kit (which was part of the uniform). I used to be a regularly forget items of my kit so I had to borrow items from friends or the lost property box. Borrowing from a friend was best if someone had PT or Rugby in the morning and you had it in the afternoon. Sometimes taking it home that night and giving it back the next day. I think this is why I am so sensitive to male pheromones.

Definitely a big fan here and have a massive collection - and as far as clothing goes, black Adidas gear seem to be very #Berlin. Shame Adidas never really got a handle on the Sneaker fetish side of things as much as Nike did. It's common to see a nice shiny Adidas Chile tracksuit worn alongside some Nike TNs, Shox, or Airmax 90s. You never see guys lusting quite the same after a pair of Adidas EQTs...

I am thinking of having a clear out of some of the fetish gear that doesn't see much use, and while some stuff like boots could be sold on eBay I was thinking of giving Second Skin a try. ( I have some reluctance to use eBay as they have return policies that in my experience stacked very hard in favour of the buyer. I sold a DSLR camera in mint condition on there and the buyer returned it, claiming it was broken - it was returned and what was returned was clearly another camera and broken. Since I didn't have the foresight to record the serial number before shipping, eBay wouldn't help. ) Curious to know if anyone has used Second Skin to buy or sell, and how it worked out. Link: [think before following links] https://secondskin.co If you want an invite code, send me a direct message.

If it was planned on a naked night then go enjoy yourselves but count me out.

The (now ex) manager of our local Deichmann Shoe store used to surf Grindr and invite guys into the stockroom of the store - sadly not for much more than a blowie.

This is my philosophy too - a hard cock is the only criteria. All comers welcome.

I'd be up for it - suggest we have a way of identifying fellow BZ members from regular punters. Any ideas? Agree it needs a good mix - if it was all bottom/sub guys it would be no fun.

Either saved for freezing and later use as lube or I have a cumdump sneaker that gets it.

Ah well, if it makes you look better then it's *not* compensation, its complementary. ...and perhaps I should have sprinkled a few smileys my text - it was supposed to be a little humorous and ironic, not intending to be malicious. My BF watches "Glow Up" and it's a running joke that one of the judges on there has a really silly moustache that seems to only serve to annoy me intensely. So facial hair is an easy button to push for me. I haven't seen one on those yet, but it sounds almost as annoying as a man-bun. <insert smiley>