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I saw this on Twitter and thought I'd post it here, too. 

Central Station is struggling in the lockdown as is asking for help to stay afloat.  I think it would be sad to see another venue disappear, especially one that has played host to sleazy clubs like SOP, Pants, Feet on Friday, to name a few. Many of my memorable experiences have taken place in their underground club in the basement. If Central Station closes, I believe that these clubs will find it almost impossible finding a new home in London and we risk losing them along with an important hub in the community.  

[think before following links] https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-central-station

Firstly want to thank @RawTop and the moderators for bringing us BZ. It must be a lot of work to keep running, secure and keep us prolls in check!

I am used to how the site works, but there are a couple of things that might make its use smoother...  I think you have to remember this is primarily a forum and not a general social media/hookup platform. 

Searching for a member by username is a bit clunky as you have to go to the search box, select more options, select members and then search. Would be nice if the search box showed members as well as posts by default. 

The URL hiding thing is probably necessary evil, but quite annoying. Now I am used to it, and I am happy Safari allows highlighting the text and ctrl-click to select open in new tab.

The point about 'posting in the right place' - sometimes the navigation doesn't help - I recall my one and only suspension resulted from someone else posting in the wrong place. I saw it in my notifications feed, and I hastily followed up by posting something along the lines of "Oh yes, me too" without double checking which forum it was originally posted in... That resulted in a week's suspension, which I've always thought a bit salty given the OP contained the inappropriate content for where it was posted. Anyway... that's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned, but I think using a different colour or something for the public vs restricted access areas might help clarify where you're posting. I believe some of  forums can be read without logging in and are public and indexed by search engines - again sometimes I wonder if users realise this when posting? Again a colour code or something might help. 

Can you repost the link? It seems to have been removed. 

We are finding that many of the bits of home exercise equipment we've procured during lockdown can be repurposed for play. 

• Weighted bags can be used under the prosterior to prop up your butt when laying on your back. 
• Resistance bands can be used to help keep feet/legs up when laying on back - thread band behind neck or through harness and use the ends to hold feet/ankles. 
• Bosu ball has many uses for creating interesting positions and angles particularly for fisting.  
• Adjustable incline bench also useful for positioning, tying up and is a more stable platform for harder scenes. 
• Interlocking gym mats make a wipe clean floor for playing on 

A friend of mine has a tilt table for hanging upside down which was originally for therapy but with modifications got repurposed for bondage play. 

A wander around a branch of Decathon with your imagination engaged there are many possibilities. 

Just before the last lockdown they had a sale and I was going to get one of their full face snorkels to investigate the possibilities but I had better not elaborate as we are outside the fetish section. 

Definitely worth watching. I love the attention to detail in "It's a Sin". There are real things that I'd read about at the time and forgotten, like the crematorium that refused to cremate bodies of AIDS patients for fear of contaminating the air. Now it sounds crazy, but back then everyone was scared. Something else in the series that stuck a memory was mortgage companies wouldn't lend to gay people because no life assurance policy would cover them. Many people had to lie to get mortgages or get ones that didn't require life assurance cover, which cost more. Apart from the storyline, being an 80's geek,  the detail in the sets is spot on - decor, clothes, technology, and cars.  

We watched the first episode live, and streamed the rest over last weekend. It's getting rave reviews, and deservedly so. 

10 hours ago, Bwccummer said:

I had a actual person wanted me to stop by for quickie. However not really give enough time for can seem wanted microwave sex. I would have been open to if gave some notice to host beforehand. 

"Microwave sex" - That made me LOL. That is getting filed away for future use. 

2 hours ago, RawPlug said:

My mum had it last week. As yet, she’s displayed no compulsion to go out and buy Microsoft products, so I guess the foil-hatters’ fears about Bill Gates were unfounded. 
  

Ah, but have you had to switch her off, wait ten seconds and switch her on again? 

+ add me to this: I agree it would be useful. 

I have unfollowed people in the past because of overly prolific commenting things like "Yeah!" "Me too" etc on dozens of images. 

@RawPlug - gets a special mention since we've met IRL, and I am really looking forward to doing so again once lockdown allows.  

@schvenn @dirtyfuckboy @Gregory @kiwiguyuk @JamesL100 @sleazebugga @daddybare @bare2bb @6Demon6Seed6 @alphaboy @saunatopuk @7bb86 

@slipitupme stands out as he writes some great stories on here. Would love to meet and play with guys who have such imaginations, and I suspect some of it is based on experience of places like The Fort. 

Freak/Freaks/get Freaky are a term I've been noticing a lot lately when looking at USA based profiles - and the context would seem to imply different meaning from my normal understanding: .  My understanding is that it is used to describe something outside what is normal, but done to some kind of extreme or excess and I'd usually associate it with a fetish, like Rubber Freak, Gear Freak, etc.  But having seen it in so many non-fetish profiles, I am wondering if this term is used as covert drugs reference? 

1 hour ago, cumdump67816 said:

I was in Atlanta last week, got a room at Red Roof Inn and was getting fucked within 10 minutes of checking in. 2 more big dick black guys fucked me and filled me, then I went to Tokyo Valentino. It was moderately crowded, some wearing masks. I went to the dark room and bent over and got fucked by 6 guys one after the other. I had a few messages on BBRT and went back to my room and got fucked by 2 more hung guys. Another guy hit me up and asked how many loads (at least 11) then he came over and fucked me so hard and so deep I was done for the night.

Which Red Roof was that? Buckhead?

I hear that there are 5,000 trucks stopped at the UK border in Dover/Folkstone unable to cross...

If it wasn't for Tier-4 lockdown it did occur to me it could be worth a trip to provide some Christmas relief... but the reality of truckers being stuck on an airfield for days without access to toilets or showers may not live up to the fantasy... 

In my experience the issue usually is that pictures are requested under the guise of arranging a meet, or forging a friendship over a common (fetish) interest - but they never really intend to meet in the first place. Usually fairly easy to spot, though. They have a short attention span and will move on to someone else if you can't send them the pics "right now".  

A lot of us have hopes pinned on vaccinations in order for cruising venues and clubs on the scene opening up again. 

In the UK they're estimating people in my group (mid 40's) won't get access to the vaccine until June-September 2021. And that's if everything goes to plan.

[think before following links] https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk

When I enquired at my doctor's office about their plans, they said they're not planning to do vaccinations as they don't have the manpower. 

So, I'm not holding my breath for any kind of normality based on vaccinations soon... 

1 minute ago, rawTOP said:

Oh, and the UK is not a "liberal country" when it comes to porn. The UK is actually very conservative. Russia is way more liberal than the UK (at least for straight porn – they're not particularly fond of anything gay).

Oh, I didn't mean the UK was liberal! No way... We have the BBFC and our own decency laws to contend with here. That's why back in the day when we used to have our own personal websites (dial up era!) we used to use hosting companies in mainland Europe that were a bit more friendly to gay/fetish content. 

This is all really interesting: Being based in the UK, I am curious how this plays out internationally... Given the global nature of the internet, is there a reason why one of the big porn tube companies wouldn't incorporate or setup and host from a more liberal country where lobby groups like Exodus Cry are less of an issue? In the early days of the net, there were companies in Europe (Netherlands and Germany) that were more friendly to fetish and gay content - I think xs4all and GMX were ones I remember seeing. A lot's changed since then, but I'm curious what benefits/problems going offshore brings...? 

Could this also mean that alt-currency payments become popular in lieu of Mastercard/Visa? I've always been a bit wary of sharing card/personal details with certain sites - hence I have a prepay card I use for that kind of thing. 

9 hours ago, jamie6369 said:

Probably not the place to put this, but I feel like "a problem shared" (can't remember the rest!)

Anyway, Grindr - been "talking" to a guy - seemed not quite right from the start, claimed he had crabs for a few weeks. They were itchy, so that all added up. 

Finally gave me his address and arranged a time (like 30 minutes ago) he was he was home alone. I got there, not a single light on in the house and two cars on the drive. I sent him a "here" message and hung around like a drug dealer on the street corner for 5 minutes before deciding it was a con. 

I got a message about 5 minutes after that saying he didn't hear me knock on the door. I explained my concerns, and was then met with a ton of abuse saying I kissed kids, was a paedo and a whole host of other crap. I did point out he was acting exactly as I had suspected he would and after a couple more abusing messages blocked him. 

What I can't comprehend is why he invested so much time over several days messaging back and forth??  Perhaps he lives locally and knows his neighbour is a complete nutter if people wake him up, or something. I really can't understand why he went to so much trouble to keep messaging. 

Sorry to have vented all this just here! 

I think some guys get off on the fantasy, but when you arrive at their door, it suddenly becomes reality and they're not really ready for it. Sometimes they've popped their load already on the idea.  Sometimes what they describe and project of themselves may not be close to reality, so they act out like it's your fault when they get close to being revealed. I've had Grindr meets give me the address of the house on the opposite side of the street so they can check me out first.

15 minutes ago, PupLucca said:

I sometimes top but have been primarily a bottom since I was 12 and took my first raw cock and load deep in my hole. If some one asks me to poz them I ask several questions to figure out if they are a true chaser or a flake. And yes I've had some guys try and shame me but I refuse their abuse and turn them down

Kudos for being willing to help chasers. The whole fantasy/reality thing can be frustrating to deal with. The only reliable answer to that I've found is to get out to darkrooms, parties, saunas and cruising grounds where guys are more genuinely up for it, but that's a bit tricky in the current covid situation. 

3 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

I would just note that I never used the word "should" - a word I consider one of the most useless in the English language (at least insofar as it's typically used). Nor did I mention obligations or dues.

I pointed out that opportunities diminish. I'm not a strict believer in karma, but I do think that in the long run, what goes around generally comes around. 

I get your point about how you wouldn't feel pleasure "servicing" a bottom who took no delight in penetrating you. I would just note that I suspect most bottoms get at least some pleasure on the (perhaps rare) occasions they top, or they likely couldn't get hard enough to do it; and that for some bottoms, it's not about "servicing" but enjoying the sensation of getting fucked, by a real cock and not a dildo. Sure, if you're wired such that you only get turned on being a hole for pure tops to use, this isn't for you. For people who simply like sex as a bottom, trading off/switching occasionally so that you both get what you enjoy on occasion may be a necessary compromise.

Agree with this. My observation and personal experience is that when guys are on the hunt - online or in a cruising situation - they can get really focused on looking for cock when ass in abundance. I have to make a real effort to remember my other 20-25% - and for me that usually manifests in the finale before leaving. Some guys may lose interest after they've shot their load, so they focus on bottoming first: Then it is easy to become obsessed and forget about giving. If everyone behaves in a similar way it creates a natural shortage. 

It's a rare find, but for me it is a massive turn on to take loads from guys at the end of the night having witnessed they've been prolific bottom sluts and taken a lot of cock that night.  Living vicariously through other guy's loads, maybe.

On 11/27/2020 at 12:16 AM, funpozbottom said:

I like reading threads like this since these definitions sometimes change regionally and there's usually something I hadn't heard before. There's also a good bit of cross-over between terms, plus, most sites sensor what can be put on a profile so that may require a little creativity if you want to hint as some particular interest. All that combined make finding a concrete definition somewhat difficult. Here's how I define a few of the terms you listed:

• Raunch -  involves body excretions and waste. (There are 3 P's and 3 S's: pee, poo, puke, sweat, spit, and snot)
• Filthy - unwashed and sweaty. Can refer to body or gear.
• Grunge - Also unwashed but with the addition of dirty, mud, and oil.
• Dirty - a generic catchall that could mean anything that's not vanilla depending on the site. (Some sites ban any mention of raunch so on those sites the closest term may be dirty)
• Pig - Insatiable. Into quantity over quality.
• Pervert - Corrupting influence. Could be voyeur, exhibitionist, or predator.
• Breed - Cum in the hole after a long fuck. With a good breeding, the top will stay inside as long as possible to prevent the load from leaking out. This may lead to a second fuck.

I really like your definition of Pig being into quantity over quality.  I think that totally nailed it.

Interesting definition of Pervert being a corrupting influence - I guess that's why the shortened form means what it does and is banned here. That's pretty much what the dictionary definition is too.

In the UK you sometimes hear a group of friends accuse one of their number of [banned shortened form]-ing over someone. This is usually noticeably paying excessive attention to someone they desire, but from a distance rather than being direct or cruisey. Usually if the target is considered to be above the league of the admirer, or if the attention is making them noticeably uncomfortable. 

You also often hear the banned shortened form used to describe someone who's paying unwanted attention to someone and ignoring social cues/body language to stop. eg: That guy in the darkroom who won't take no for an answer. 

9 minutes ago, JamesL100 said:

Most guys can fuck or get fucked as their dick and ass are in working order. It does depend who you're with of course.
But yes I find vers/btm are 99% btm with every excuse why they can't top just once and return the pleasure after being fucked.

Agree with this but would add that this more common as use of drugs has become more popular: it seems to prevent a lot of guys from getting hard, and then they can only btm. 

I've always thought it's kinda good cruising karma to be versatile and give a little of what you want to take. The numbers game is such that we have to as there are simply not enough tops to go around! 

I'll add that one thing I love is taking a load from a guy who has just taken a lot of loads himself. So a cumpdump who will top at the end of the party is awesome, but a very rare find.   

9 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

I think the shortened version often (not always, but often) is used to refer to sex with underaged persons, hence why it's banned here. 

Thanks... I never knew that! 😱 

Rarely I top and if I use poppers then when I cum it is usually 5x the amount as without. And I'll be unlikely to want to go again for long time - maybe 12-24hrs. The other thing to factor in is the very high risk of using viagra and poppers... and in group/cruising situations that may be required to stay rock hard for a long time.

14 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

In general I think you've accurately described these terms. You hit on what I consider a common misconception - breeding is indeed about barebacking, especially no-pull-out barebacking. If you breed a mare to a stallion, you hope there will be a pregnancy, but there's no guarantee; the key thing is the delivery of semen. But the mare might be infertile or the stallion sterile. In HIV gifting/chasing terms, the top might be toxic, undetectable, or negative, corresponding to the potent/sterile condition of the stallion; the bottom might be on PrEP or immune, or negative and receptive.

I'd argue perhaps that "pervert" covers a much wider swath of interests and behavior, much like "kink". Both terms describe, to me, stuff that a basic vanilla kind of person would at least raise an eyebrow at. I think also "extreme" might be an even smaller subset than 10%, but I suppose that's more of a personal judgment call.

Lastly, I think there's a lot of overlap between raunch and dirty, with most of what you describe as "dirty" actually fitting comfortably into "raunch", as used on this side of the pond. If anything, though, I'd say you have the words backwards as they're used here (though certainly you may be spot on for the UK): raunch is the "nastier" stuff, dirty is the "sweaty/man smells" stuff.

I may be wrong about the raunch/dirty thing - it would be interesting to get some more opinions on that from this side of the pond. 

I think my interpretation comes from it's use on GayRomeo which is a predominantly mainland Europe site which has a yes/no option for "dirty" and mostly this means into yellow and sometimes brown. However I will say since Romeo is based in Berlin, this was likely translated to English from German, so it may have been lost in translation. 

I agree about breeding... I always thought that 'breeding' was no-pull-out bareback with the intent of passing on something from the top to the bottom. My sense is that it now is used to describe any bareback when the top cums in the bottom regardless of status or intended outcome. Gifting/Chasing seems to be the term used for that now, although not very common to see someone openly advertise as a gifter in places other than here. 

One I forgot: the shortened form of Pervert, which I can't write on here because it is a banned word. 

Does the shortened form have a different meaning to the full length form (pervert) which would explain why one is banned but the other not?