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14 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

In general I think you've accurately described these terms. You hit on what I consider a common misconception - breeding is indeed about barebacking, especially no-pull-out barebacking. If you breed a mare to a stallion, you hope there will be a pregnancy, but there's no guarantee; the key thing is the delivery of semen. But the mare might be infertile or the stallion sterile. In HIV gifting/chasing terms, the top might be toxic, undetectable, or negative, corresponding to the potent/sterile condition of the stallion; the bottom might be on PrEP or immune, or negative and receptive.

I'd argue perhaps that "pervert" covers a much wider swath of interests and behavior, much like "kink". Both terms describe, to me, stuff that a basic vanilla kind of person would at least raise an eyebrow at. I think also "extreme" might be an even smaller subset than 10%, but I suppose that's more of a personal judgment call.

Lastly, I think there's a lot of overlap between raunch and dirty, with most of what you describe as "dirty" actually fitting comfortably into "raunch", as used on this side of the pond. If anything, though, I'd say you have the words backwards as they're used here (though certainly you may be spot on for the UK): raunch is the "nastier" stuff, dirty is the "sweaty/man smells" stuff.

I may be wrong about the raunch/dirty thing - it would be interesting to get some more opinions on that from this side of the pond. 

I think my interpretation comes from it's use on GayRomeo which is a predominantly mainland Europe site which has a yes/no option for "dirty" and mostly this means into yellow and sometimes brown. However I will say since Romeo is based in Berlin, this was likely translated to English from German, so it may have been lost in translation. 

I agree about breeding... I always thought that 'breeding' was no-pull-out bareback with the intent of passing on something from the top to the bottom. My sense is that it now is used to describe any bareback when the top cums in the bottom regardless of status or intended outcome. Gifting/Chasing seems to be the term used for that now, although not very common to see someone openly advertise as a gifter in places other than here. 

One I forgot: the shortened form of Pervert, which I can't write on here because it is a banned word. 

Does the shortened form have a different meaning to the full length form (pervert) which would explain why one is banned but the other not?

When browsing sites like NKP or BBRT you sometimes see terms or phrases in use that have for me unclear meaning - some of them on here get auto replaced with "[banned word]"

For me these terms are a little vague: maybe the point of their use is to start a conversation. 

But some of them make me reticent, as they could mean anything - and I'd rather not associate with someone who's definition is something that could result in a stretch in prison and being put on the sex offenders register. 

So, is there an unwritten collective understanding of these terms? 

Does their meaning change when spelled with numbers? (I can't imagine it's done to fool filters as these terms aren't banned - and disguising them makes it hard to search for them)

Also interesting does their meaning change US vs British English? 

Here are some examples and what they conjure up in my (British) mind as a meaning... 

• Raunch -  unwashed, sweaty, pheromones, unwashed socks/underwear, man smells but not "Dirty" as defined below.
• Dirty - could be brown, yellow and/or cock cheese - rarely means mud (a shame!)
• Dirty load - spunk that contains one or more infectious STDs. 
• Sleazy - darkrooms, cruising, restrooms/bathrooms, orgies. 
• Dark - Satanism, Rituals, Occult. 
• Pervert - Predatory, stalking, older.
• Extreme - if you took the a group of guys into whatever it is, then only the top 10% would take it this far. 
• [banned word] (and not the Boy George musical) - something you wouldn't want your colleagues, friends or family to know about because it would cause outrage.
• Fetish - being turned on by specific item(s) of clothing or object(s). 
• Breed - used to think this was about gifting/chasing but it seems to be general term for bareback
• Pig - generic term meaning any of the above may apply. Used by tops and bottoms. 
• Any others?

  Be interesting to see if you agree???

(edited because of banned words on here)

8 hours ago, DarkroomTaker said:

I prefer Darlaston especially the Dark room dungeon room was the best, I was sprawled on the leather mat bench in the corner, legs apart, dark except for the odd bit of light flicking through a reddish  window light. Sling in the corner , Bench in other. There was also a  dark narrow corridor you can walk into from there, although my legs were like putty, there were more blokes on both sides, had to push through them, pitch black, naked guys, hard cocks  sticking in my body, lots of  hands were on me, it was absolutely  pitch black! 

I was bent over in this dark wet smelly narrow corridor on some stairs/ steps that went no where and was repeatedly fucked and hard by some hard naked strangers, I was leaning with my hands on the stairs in front for support. The fucking was endless,no idea who they were,  just cocks grunting, pushing in me etc ,I was sore, but felt horny and went looking for more, which I found in the big jacuzzi.

Darlaston was in my opinion better planned out and more seedy, plus I like asian, Pakistani men and got my fair share there.

Agree that Darlaston is a better setup and a larger venue. 

Darlaston is popular with south asian guys - Luton you do get some as there is a big south asian community in Luton, but you also get a lot of Eastern European guys at the Luton Sauna too. 

They did refurbish the darkroom in the Darlaston basement a while back, and when they put the sling back up it is really badly adjusted as the chains are at such a wide angle you have to kinda do exterme splits to rest your feet on them. Likewise the height adjustment was all wrong. I did ask them to adjust it whenever I visited, but they never did. Similarly the sling in the upstairs playroom has very wide chains - although not as bad as the one in the basement - it is just about usable. 

Luton Greenhouse has a license, so they sell alcohol there. Darlaston they didn't. 

Also call ahead to Luton if the weather is windy as they had a problem where their boilers and heat stops working when it gets windy, so you can get there to find the Jacuzzi and steam isn't working and the place is cold. 

The manager and staff of the Darlaston GH were always amazingly helpful and friendly. There's a skinny guy who I think is the manager at Luton who is less than friendly and can be really "off" with customers. He hates people calling to see if it is busy or that all the facilities are operating. It's not so much what is said, but the way it is said... Tutting and sighing if you ask for a something from the kitchen or bar. I once approached him for first aid after I'd cut my foot on broken glass from a discarded broken poppers bottle in the steam room and his reaction was pretty nasty - as if I'd been careless and done it on purpose, and now he had to clean it up.  First Aid? They sell plasters and antiseptic cream in the supermarket down the road. 

There seems to be a trend toward monetisation of everything. I'm seeing more and more on instagram in the fetish community lads asking for specific items of gear to be bought for them so they can post pictures of themselves in it - a teaser since they save the juicier stuff for OnlyFans...    

Then there's the "cash master" phenomenon - this seems to be dying out a bit lately, but you do still see guys advertising on social media and some hookup sites that you need to buy them something from their Amazon wish-list or add to their PayPal before they'll answer your messages. 

Skirting carefully around the edge of what's allowed... Maybe pay for play is  what comes next: I've had a guy online saying that sorry, you're not my type, but if you get me these £170 sneakers they'll meet for a date.  He got blocked. There are other similar examples. 

Businesses have realised that subscription models are the most lucrative rather than single transactions. Extrapolate that: Will we be paying for "friends" or to follow influencers? (we likely do now through advertising) 

I wonder where we'll end up?

Not for the squeamish: In my younger years, I had a very tight foreskin which was quite inhibiting and difficult to live with. When I became more sexually active around age 20 or so, a rather over enthusiastic hand job put me in Hillingdon Hospital. I am sure the lad I was playing with was somewhat traumatised by what happened... Anyway, they decided to snip it rather than fix it, and I have to say that as an adult it was a deeply unpleasant experience. It needed stitches to heal and whenever I got hard it was gory agony until they were removed. The other thing was the super-sensitivity of the now exposed parts... I remember sleeping with a box to stop the bed covers touching me for the first few weeks. Short term, it was a real pain (literally), but long term it means I get to have a lot more fun than I would have had.  So I don't miss it. 

As for my preference - so long as it hard, I really don't mind 😉

Yes - I had a phase of enjoying rimming guys in Laboratory - but I eventually got a gastrointestinal bacterial infection that was particularly nasty and no amount of immodium would touch. The NHS being what it is, it took nearly two weeks to see a doctor who ordered a test which was abandoned because the paperwork was filled out wrong. They wouldn't give out any antibiotics until the test showed what was in the sample. Anyhow, faced with another week's wait for an appointment, then the test and follow up,  I paid to go private and saw a specialist, got tested and got some meds all on the same day. I forget the cost - but it was enough that I decided that giving rim jobs to random guys was and expensive and painful risk... 

Having said that I do appreciate that having my hole rimmed makes it exceptionally hungry...  

48 minutes ago, viking8x6 said:

Out here in the rural area I live in, it's really difficult. It's almost always the same few faces, and either we've met or we've given one another the brush-off, so if I haven't made any longer term FBs, I'm SOL. I suspect it's better in cities, but haven't lived in one for six years, so I'm not sure.

In general, I have not seen one single hookup app that does anything like a good job of solving the problem of time and space - in order for a hookup to happen, the people need to be in the same place at the same time, and none of the apps are optimized for doing that. It's even worse for guys who are traveling, and trying to put together a hook-up on the road. Which is a bummer, because IMO that's one of the best times to have a hook-up. If I'm driving 2-4 hours (or more) to get to another place in the region, stopping for half hour to have a play date is totally convenient.

If you're interested in some assistance with coming up with some potential solutions for these problems, I'd be interested in putting some effort into it, so PM me.

Agree with this. Working from home means I am in the chiltern hills, outside of London.  As Viking says you see the same ten or twelve faces on all the apps and after a few years it's either happened or it'll never happen. 

When I got bored and horny, I took to Grindr fishing, where you drive to another town/city,  park up and see who's near. Had a couple of memorable fucks doing that. As more and more people live in shared accommodation most are on the look out for guys who can 'accom' so that's can be an issue unless you do a cheap Travelodge or something. 

So I completely agree, the time/space issue that @Viking8x6 mentions is often the issue. Some apps attempt to solve this by allowing you to virtually travel to another area to make contact and plan ahead, but this is suboptimal because:

• If you arrange a meet 'right now' there's a 50% chance it'll work out
• If you arrange a meet for 1-2 hours time there's a 20% chance it'll work out. 
• If you arrange a meet for 2-12 hours time there's a 10% chance it'll work out.
• If you arrange a meet for 12-48 hours time there's a 5% chance it'll work out.
• >48 hours and it's <1%

So for me the answer is (or was pre-covid) the saunas, bars and clubs. Because of Covid these are mostly closed in the UK and some permanently closed. So a rediscovery of Hampstead Heath has happened this year, and I've had good fun up there.

Now the infection rates are up again and total lockdown starts in a few days, most guys are using the apps for window shopping and wanking. 

The most used items are: shower attachment douche, play sheets, electrostim box with metal conductive butt plug, electro nipple clamps, collection of plugs and dildos of various sizes (glass ones are current favourite), Austrian army boots (used for huffing poppers), Gas mask with eye lenses painted out black, Long thick industrial rubber gloves. 

More rarely used: Speculum, Vacuum cylinder, Cock rings, Rubber hood with only nose holes, Rubber hood with built in medical breathing mask, Black rubber rebreathing bag, Funnel to fit hood, Collar, arm and leg restraints, ropes and straps, pegs and clamps, sharpie marker, Pallet wrap, knee pads, body armour, full rubber suit, rubber replica Adidas Chile 63 tracksuit, 1pc bike leathers and various accessories.  

I also tend to use items from the local DIY/hardware store than buy specialised toys. Examples are cable ties and cutter, chain and carabiners, clamps and clips. My play sheets are actually Wilko shower curtains which were £2.99... bargain!

Looking at getting a sling and making stand from "tube and bracket" for use at home. 

3 hours ago, ba_nanas1 said:

Thanks for the reply. Ive been with Virgin Media for years and never had a problem with BBRT in this time. But even if I switch to my Mobile provider (i.e off wifi) , so im using 02 network its still the same.

Can anyone here just click the 'register new account' and see if they have issues?

BBRT support have been useless. I've found three different email accounts for them and have messaged them all. Two havent replied and one bounced back as undeliverable.

Can anyone help with setting up a basic account for me so I can use it?

Thanks guys

I just tried from Virgin Media UK and I get the "You must be over 18" screen, then I click OK I get the login screen. From here If I register a new account I get the screen that asks me for all the details to set it up. I didn't go any further. If you want me to set one up for you, DM me.   

22 hours ago, ba_nanas1 said:

I'm coming back to finding some hookups, but my account on BBRT was removed due to inactivity. Sadly, if I try to register for a new account it gives me an error saying 

VPN, Anonymous Proxies and TOR not allowed during registration.

Im not using any of those. Ive tried my Mac, my iPhone, turning off wifi etc. Nothing works.

Ive emailed BBRT three times over the past week or so, and had no reply. 

Any ideas anyone?

I don't know if it's related but I had a lot of problems with BBRT when I was with BT as my ISP.  Sometimes I had to use my mobile phone 4g tethering to get it to work. As I remember it was something to do with the encryption/security in https: being messed with by BT.  It was a bit of a pain, and I eventually switched to Virgin Media and that worked no problems. But I will say this was using the site not registering a new address. 

5 hours ago, leatherpunk16 said:

Unimportant story:

When I had to change insurance in 2019, I wasn't able to continue my Truvada. I called one insurance company and they told me that I would have to pay $2000 a month for a bottle of it. I told the woman on the phone that I'd rather be poz than pay that price. She was not amused. 

Now I think I took that as a challenge. I've got chaser problems, lol.

That seems very expensive. Back when I was buying PReP I was paying £80/month in 2018. It's been a while, so I just checked and it's now down to £20-£60/month: [think before following links] https://www.iwantprepnow.co.uk/buy-prep-now/  

On 10/16/2020 at 2:00 PM, LondonLegendUK said:

Anyone still fuck in public?

Definitely. Hampstead Heath mostly.     

41 minutes ago, Ocelot2000 said:

Well said @BootmanLAand sometimes you actually tell people stories that happened and you get a bunch of, this is fake, when it just happened a couple hours ago... it goes both ways. Unless you know a person IRL you aren't going to know for sure who that person is or what they are about simply from covering with said person online. And no one should be using fake pics. There should be a way of verifying people pics wise by the moderators. I hate people using some person's pic without their knowledge!

The reputation score on here is a pretty good indicator of how engaged someone is in the community and I imagine it is difficult to keep up a charade for a long time and get a good reputation on here if you're a fake. It's only an indication: even with reasonable reputation scores, there are sometimes suspicious posting patterns that do make me wonder if one person is using multiple profiles to promote themselves.

That said, I believe we shouldn't discriminate and we should always be welcoming and accepting of new members who will naturally have low reputation scores.  

I quite like the way you can leave encounter feedback on people's profiles on Squirt.org. You can also do the same on NKP but the nature of that site is that you tend to get some sub/btm guy with a load of comments on his profile from other bottoms trying to attract attention from any tops browsing rather than useful feedback. BBRT has the option to link profiles with play buddies and this is usually a good indicator of how engaged someone is in playing.  

11 hours ago, 1hornyjohn said:

You going to breed my poz hole again? You had me about a year ago in Pants club near King's Cross. Want more

Argh... I sooo miss Pants, SOP, etc. :...( 

Mine are sensitive and wired to the horny part of the brain. Squeeze them and it causes an instant hard on. I'll probably tell you to squeeze harder or use fingernails or teeth to make it more intense. Squeeze them real hard and I'll do pretty much anything asked of me. It's great when you find someone who knows how to make you dance on the edge of intense pleasure/pain.     

Hmmm well my March visit got bumped to October - silly me thinking this covid thing would be over by then... Anyhow deciding whether to go or postpone again 

Don't mind it generally if it doesn't get in the way of fun. I was up Hampstead last night in the darkroom area there was a guy who kept filming using his phone with the light on and taking pics with the flash. He wasn't really involved with the action just being a nuisance with his phone.  It kinda spoiled the vibe as it lit up the darkroom area so much and ruined everyone's night vision. The point of the darkroom is that it is dark and anonymous - not a source of free material to fill up someone's  profile with images - especially when he wasn't engaging with others. 

2 hours ago, Hairypdxpig69 said:

There notifications section has changed, for some things, that is when you hit the button that looks like the earth..it is now 2/3 of the screen with 1/3 of the screen taken up by other information but only at the top, on the rest 1/3 of the screen is blank. Not sure if this was deliberate? I don’t like this format as you have too scroll a lot more to read anything, which is no fun as you read and are excited.....

I’m using an iPad

Also seeing this on Mac OS 10.15.6 / Safari 13.1.2

Had a great time... see full report here:

20 hours ago, RawPlug said:

Today. @AirmaxAndy came to visit locally and I entertained him at my apartment with my regular fuckbud. Andy is very sexy, a great guy and an extremely generous guest. He came bringing loads of beers and left with a load in me. He’s welcome back anytime. 

Thanks @Rawplug.

Had a great weekend in Manchester/Salford Quays. Rawplug and I have been conversing online for a long time so it was great to finally meet him and his fuckbud for a session. His fuckbud has the most amazing cock... I've heard so much about it but the reality is just as good as the hype... his dimensions are just perfect. Big enough to be a challenge, long enough to reach the right spots. And wow he knows how to use it. @Rawplug is a great guy and well worth looking up if you're in the area. 

I am definitely going to visit again and we talked about involving more guys for a bit of an orgy.

I think I learned a new tactic is required for hook-ups in densely populated cities: don't bother to plan or schedule anything because guys will invariably flake. Going online in the afternoon looking for someone in the evening doesn't work: Immediacy seems to be what is successful. 

A younger Scally guy contacted me who was very top and into sportswear/sneaker/socks fetish in a big way. Also into BB, rough play and a Top... so a very rare find for me.  I drove over to meet him and we had a great session which was very rough.  Plenty of gear worship, aggro, trampling kicking and punching. @Rawplug 's fuckbud even commented on the bruises when we met in the evening.  The rough session was 'role play' intended to force me to submit to him for a BB fuck, but near the end, he pulled out and shot an enormous load spraying me all over. That would have been soooo much better inside so I could arrive at Rawplug's pre-lubed with spunk and ready for more. But you have to enjoy the bits that go right and taking a beating from a genuine Manchester scally lad is definitely saved in the wank bank for later enjoyment. 

Well we’re here and horny! Any one wanna join?

Small things that turn me on:

• Fresh sweat
• Pheromones
• Guys who keep their socks on for sex (esp. white but dirty) 
• Low hairline on forehead especially when it comes down in a point in the middle. 
• Slightly untidy rooms with horny stuff like used sportswear around. 

Equally some small things turn me off:

• Crocs, Flipflops, Slides and Sandals. 
• Pets roaming free during sex, especially if they stare/watch. 
• Playing non porn TV during a session

I have a rubber douche thing that attaches to the shower hose. It's about 14" long and 1" diameter. Once you have one it then become necessary to study pictures of hotel bathrooms to determine if the shower is plumbed in or has a hose... 

If it's a quickie and going to be very short time between cleaning and play I then I do a shallow douche not beyond the second hole. 

If I know he's well endowed or it's a longer session or there is travel time involved then a deeper douche is called for with several iterations and I also use Immodium. 

Also I'll pack a portable douche kit, just in case. Normally it's my trusty black bulb and nozzle douche, but more recently I found some on AliExpress that cost <£1 and is a douche nozzle on a squeezey concertina bottle that packs flat. They are also great for j-lube. I want to find some nozzles that fit on most standard water bottles to try as well.  

Everyone is different - there is no right answer - just plenty of ideas to try and see what works reliably for you. 

Hampstead Heath last night: someone on BBRT posted they were going to set up a sling in the trees - I thought this was an interesting idea and worth seeing. I went up there and explored extensively but never found the guy.  It seems like a good idea and I might well investigate a good spot to do that in the daylight. 

It wasn't overly busy, but it wasn't a wasted trip - received two pretty decent fucks, gave two and loaded a really skinny asian guy.  Some fetish trampling play too. 

First decent cruising session since lockdown, so quite happy.