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So, we tend to focus on how the top wiill cum and make a guy a cumdump etc etc..but what about the bottom's orgasm? I mean for a handsfree cum just from the anal penetration. Why is it such a rare incidence I wonder? My guy tends to precum and be hard while I fuck him but he won't cum handsfree.

Most people would say about these guys (the neg btm going raw) that they should come to their senses. But I believe it's their nature calling. It is risky (STIs) but something inside is scratching them to try it.

I had some transparent drops come out of my dick at 12. I was kinda scared I told my father and he bursted into laughter and he told me not to worry about this.

Does any of you has a strong preference for hair color? I have a thing for ginger. When I was a kid I was watching a kid show (lmao) about a football team (more like a football drama). I was too young to feel attraction obviously but I really liked a character there. Recently I felt nostalgic and looked back at the show. That guy was ginger. That made me thing that although I was little my mind was set up about what I like. Somehow red hair tickled my curiosity or something. I always wanted to have a bf that was ginger. And my bf is indeed ginger. Looking his hair and his short beard stuns me. We're for almost 10y together and I still can't get enough of his gingerness. Quite recently I read a tiny poem on a King's novel

'your hair is winter fire,

january embers.

my heart burns there too

a little weird but it touched me. Does anyone else has a thing for a particular color?

4 minutes ago, BlindRawFucker1 said:

Males are very visually oriented when it comes to sex.  Studies show that gay males are even more hypervisual.

 

As a blind guy, I, of course, can’t rely on my vision.  So, I have to use my other senses to enjoy the pleasures.

 

Certain voices and the sounds of sex are real turn-ons.  Of course, so is touching and the scents and tastes of men and sex.

 

I still miss out on a lot since I can’t see.  There are many things I’d like to do, such as touching and tasting guys as they fuck.

 

I want to know, what is your favorite sense to use other than your vision.  I don’t want to hear how good it feels to be fucked or to fuck—that’s obvious.

 

I hope you all understand what exactly I’m asking.  My questions often sound better in my head than written here.

 

Thanks for any input.

That is a very interesting topic. May I ask if you were born blind or was it something that occurred later on your life? 

Hyper-visual sounds quite interesting as a term. I think I understand it though. Seeing a guy that I like gives me a rush, makes my heart beat faster. For me scent would be my choice. It is one of the most potent stimulators of memory. When I get to know of someone I always notice his scent. Like being in a place and knowing "oh yes it smells like him, he was here before". But that's about the emotional/sexual part. Someone found it odd, but I was given an object to observe (a medical tool) and the first thing I did was to smell it so as to understand its material.

In general, hearing is precious for me. You can communicate with the outside world, you can get to hear the music.

I hope it's not too out of topic but:

I have a friend who is blind (there was something romantic/sexual between us) but we are caring friends now. He uses his hands a lot to feel surfaces so I think that touching is his things. So I made a funny thought that he acts like bats and that his fingers have supersonics. I was thinking whether this was a rude thought or not. I shared it with him and he laughed. I call him my little bat but I still worry that this could be rude (but i have no such intention).

Same substances have different effects between different people. Some people feel a rush, their face may flush, some can even get blue lips if they inhale too much. For others  it's headache in a bottle. Some people get the so called popper dick and others (fewer) like to fuck and take hits. Plus, poppers are a variety of substances, each one differs. If you wanna get looser you must be into it, you need to relax and the top needs to relax you too. Poppers are the cherry on the top. It's not a pill that you take and voila problem solved.

7 hours ago, backdoorjimmy said:

I had something similar going on with my ex-boyfriend's dad. I was 18 and it was my very first real relationship. I was deeply in love with my ex, but when I watched him interact with his dad it gave me heat flashes. His dad was overly affectionate, as is constant kisses on the cheek, shoulder rubbing, cuddling, etc. One time I showed up at his house and he was in the kitchen "helping" his dad make dinner; i.e. he was sitting on the counter with a glass of chocolate milk, swinging his legs back and forth while his dad did all the work. It made me crave his father more than anything. My ass would constantly shiver because I was insanely horny for him.

But I never acted on it -

1. Because I knew it would ruin my relationship with my then bf and leave him devastated.
2. Because even if his dad was gay or bi and went for it, it would ruin their relationship, too, and leave them both devastated.

Having said that, maybe you can be a brother figure to him and help him sort his wiring out. If your boyfriend isn't willing or in a position to do that, I'm sure he'd be open to a dynamic like that with you.

I totally understand. I know that it's a dangerous situation that could ruin both relationships. Sometimes I'm a bit of angry with my bf. It's like he does not care about his brother.  He's 25yo and he has never met any of his bf/gf. They live in the same house and he has never bothered to ask. I've told him that maybe he's gay but still he doesn't care. A sincere conversation would help, maybe there's something he wants to share.

As a typical gemini I have an angel and a devil inside me. The angel loves my bf, he makes me be in a romantic mood and I enjoy every moment I am with my bf. I'm planning on stay in the same house with him. I don't wanna hurt him, I try to be faithful.

But the devil inside me has a proclivity for lustful encounters. I love my bf's brother. I love him because I never had a brother. Having a brother was my greatest desire. So my bf's brother.. I love him because he loves him. He's also younger and I have some protective feelings. At the same time I feel that he needs some guidance. I do believe he's confused about his sexuality and my bf never cared to help him (a conversation or something). He's cute, he looks innocent, I just want to softly bite him around his neck and make him mine. I can't do that, my bf will be hurt (if we assume he'll fall for me). I'm not in love with him but I love him and i want to explore his body.

I'm thinking these as a top, mostly about anal sex. Not hitiing, punching, slapping or anything just the penetration. I don't wanna be an asshole and make the other guy hurt but I'd love to fuck the hell out of my bottom (but I dont want him to be in pain so I pull back)

I do love to throat fuck however, make his face red and make him drool.

So I was wondering..there is a porn culture about the bottom being in pain during sex (monster dicks, BBC, aggressive tops, BDSM etc). Does it reflect the truth? I mean everyone is different but isn't there a norm? I mean if some of you is mostly bottom does he consider ok to feel some pain or will he stop the top?

If you could have one, what would it be? I would pick shapeshifting. Imagine all the endless possibilities in every aspect of your life. For example in sex, you could be a man or a woman and you could have sex with every one you want (almost).

5 hours ago, BareLover666 said:

I felt it still is a good read, thought-provoking and for anyone interested in Satanism: start with that. One can leave it at that, or do whatever they want.
Anton LaVey also provides some of his basic insights in human psychology, although possibly not a very optimistic one per se.
Glad to have helped.

 

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Really...? 

It's not a very unifying concept is it - believing in this god- person - if numbers are still that high today? My criticism is not directed exclusively at Americans even when they are  - but this re-affirms my view that there's a lot of hate, violence and indifference in the world, between people believing in God, JHWH, Allah or whatever.

And with my apologies for upsetting anyone - although not for hurting their religious feelings because I seriously think then you really need to doubt more and grow a sense of humour: 
- If 95 % of people (from wherever in the world) believes something without empirical or scientific proof, they'll believe anything;
- It explains why so many people believe in conspiracies, gossip and fake news by lying politicians and crafty commercials and companies who want your money;
- I really feel that it shouldn't be exempt from the appropriate Psychiatric diagnoses, e.g. psychosis; 
If you feel that the Devil, demons, angels or gods exist I really think you need to be able to seek professional mental help.
It has no place for grown men and women to believe in fairy tales...

Hear, Hear!
But does it include my preaching they really should't believe with such an absolute certainty, and doubt a lot more?

*) I don't mean doubt science... especially please anyone: do not doubt Covid-19 vaccines or the existence of viruses... 

I stand corrected. 

 

In your (longer) edition to the conversation you actually sum up why I feel believing in the Devil as an existing entity or person doesn't rub well with me;
It would imply the existence of a benevolent and (near-) all powerful God as well, which I cannot accept.

Perhaps we need more heretics to challenge and test existing preconceptions in our societies, to rid ourselves of false (meaning baseless and unhelpful) ones. That might be the function of having a - symbolic - adversary.

Personally I have a higher lever of tolerance for people believing in a god or gods for comfort and consolation - life can be hard and if it helps someone, I'm happy for them. I do fear it has the opposite effect and keeps them feeling powerless, lonely or hurt by offering a source of source of strength outside of themselves in stead of helping them to find that strength inside of them - or discover that they have always had this strength.
Religion and faith then stand in the way of empowerment. 

And a belief in the Devil on the other hand can too easily be a scapegoat for the evils that are all too human, resulting from traits like selfishnes, stupidity, closed-mindedness and suffering from a lack of empathy. Believing it was a Serpent why we are not living in a paradise now, takes away Adam's and Eve's responsibility for listening to a lying, smooth-talking snake.
One should never blindly follow prophets. Or politicians for that matter.

Devil is but a fallen angel he's not a God so he is less powerful than God. I'm not sure how someone is called heretic and not dogmatic and all that stuff but I guess someone can believe a modified version of Christianity but he would have to name it somehow so as for people to know that this is not a Catholic or other belief.

Personally I can't say I believe in Christianity but I do like the Olympian Gods as a concept. Interestingly I dont think ancient Greeks had someone to have the role of Devil. There were malevolent gods like Eris, the daughter of Night and Envy but nothing similar to devil.

Well the main dogmas of Christianity do mention and believe in the devil. Everyone can believe what he wants but if you don't believe in Devil why being a Christian? It's like ignoring half the Bible. 

For me being a Christian but not believing in the existence of Devil is like being a vegan and eating meat. It just doesn't make sense. Unless someone wants to believe in a heretic branch that has a totally different perspective.

7 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

If by "Every Christian" you mean "All Christian denominations", you might be correct. However, a majority of American Christians, at least, do not believe there is an actual Devil who exists. As far back as the late 1990's, polls showed that 95% of Americans believed in God but only about one-third believed the Devil exists. More than sixty percent said that the Devil is merely "a symbol of evil", not an actual entity.

In other words, as is so typically the case, what particular denominations define as doctrine, and what people who belong to those denominations actually believe, are two different things: see, for instance, Catholics and birth control.

Given the overall decline in religiosity since then, I'd imagine that the percentage of Christians who believe in the Devil may have risen, but that's only because the percentage of Americans who are Christian has declined.

Theologically speaking, if one considers himself a Christian (orthodox, catholic, protestant) he has to believe in Devil, Lucifer the fallen angel. If not he would be considered a heretic if a Christian at all. I know that there are deviations between differet dogmas but the existence of the devil is a core concept. 

Every Christian believes in the Devil and every Satanist believes in God. Satanists just worship Sarah Palin instead of God. Since one believes in the Devil knows that Gods Will will prevail (because he is ehm God) and Devil is not gonna "take over the place" because ehm he is not. That's how I see it (but I'm not religious). I believe that all that lust, sex etc is just a fabrication of Hollywood and pop cuture and has nothing to do with the real believes of Satanism.

Why don't u try the Greek Gods? I believe there are way more interesting things (that were "borrowed" by the Christians. You want a god of love? You have Aphrodite. You want a God for drunk anonymous sex? You have Dionysus the god of wine. You want incest? Bitch please, we have Zeus. We have way darker things than that.

So for guys who are into fist I have a couple of questions

1. Does it make u permanently lose after time? Do u like that possibility? (As a top I would find it hot)

2. do  enjoy it more than sex?

3. How often do u take it?

4. Are u hard during this?

I don't cum much and that's the thing that always bugged me. My cum is quite thick, not as liquid as it should. I also precum on very few occasions. I do know however that if I bate for long lots of cum is gonna cum out but still my overall quantity is not as I'd like to. Has any of u experience a similar situation and do u think that it could be a turn off for bottoms? I kinda know some medical situations that reduce quantity but since I'm not planning to have children I don't care about being fertile.

Maybe it's me but I've got a feeling that gay guys tend to explore more the "pleasure" side. Poppers, sounding, anal penetration, fisting, edging and so on. I think these are very rare for str8 people and that maybe the even feel shy about talking about these things with their gf. Of course not all gay guys like all these but at least they know their existence or they have tried some of them. I have watched women fuck guys with strapon and it's almost sad. The woman doesnt feel a thing because it's a dildo and she does know how to fuck (obviously). Plus sometimes the dildo seems too small.

53 minutes ago, MuscledHorse said:

it feels like you are masturbating your penis from the inside. Put a vibrator against the rod while it's in your penis and the pleasure waves really skyrocket. Just wash yur hands and ise sterile lube and properly clean the sounds after each use and you'll be fine.

that sounds too hot. If I had someone to guide me here I would have been doing it from my late teen years

Thank u for ur detailed post.

I'm concerned about the infection risk but I think with boiling the tools and proper handling I would be pretty safe. Although I've put catheters on few occasions, I think I'm okay with the glove/careful handling part. I wouldn't be trying electro, although I find this so hot. I'm experienced with surgical procedures so things that break, things that can contaminate, careful handling are things that are always in my mind.

I'm curious about the sensation. How does it feel. And wish I could find someone in Greece that does that. I haven't found a single person who does that.

I've watched it in porn, never done it and dont know anyone who does it. But I'm so curious about it. Has anyone tried it?

17 minutes ago, tallslenderguy said:

lol, ironically, i learned some Greek when i was part of a religious culture.

i thought i remembered from other posts you have made that you are Greek?  Wow, that is very cool information about "erastis" and "eromenos."  It's interesting to me to consider the ebb and flow of different cultures. Part of cultural ethnocentricity seems to be each culture seems to consider the current as the most advanced (progressive?), yet in many ways, that just doesn't bear out. When is comes to male with male sex, 'ancient' Greek culture seems a lot more "progressive."

religious culture with greek sounds scary. And ironically, the real greek religion the 12 gods of Olympus are forgotten by some modern greek christians and say that Christianity is the true greek religion.

About the language part you will find many interesting things about the greek language (although I love every language and I  find them intriguing to study, it's just  that greek is a little more interesting).  Interestingly, a right winged politician (who is a historian) says that being gay was not accepted in ancient greece and was not at all common, a fact that disagrees with pretty much all available literature. So modern  greeks can be blind and ancient greeks were more "advanced". And unfortunately all that gay part has vanished from what we are taught in greek with the most profound example of Plato's symposium. We  have a course called "religion" which is taught in each and every class of primary, secondary and high school (12 years) but not a course about philosophy.

Oh and one more thing a bit irrelevant thought. Language has memory. When Efialtes betrayed the Greeks, his name became the word for nightmare. That was to ensure that for all eternity his traitore would never be forgotten.

59 minutes ago, tallslenderguy said:

think the Greeks have/had the language/word things more right. As hntnhole points out, they have several words for love. For instance "phileo" is descriptive of friendship love, while "eros" speaks to sexual love. At least it seems their language is more detailed in its meaning. 

i don't think "love requires" anything, i think people require, and love is a word we use to try and convey a feeling. i think there are moments we can experience of perfect, or near perfect connection/communication,  i think that is an ongoing pursuit though, versus a constant we reach and stay at. 

I'm impressed u know these words.

U are right. We also have the words "erastis" and "eromenos". Many greeks don't know the diiference. erastis and eromenos mean lover but have an important difference. Erastis is the lover who penetrates and eromenos is the one who is penetrated. That's why  in greek a woman has an "erastis" and a guy "eromenos. In ancient greek literature these words are used for tops and btms.

The words "eros" and "agapi" can be both translated from greek as "love". But eros means in love (cupid) and agapi is love. Aphrodite was not the goddess of love but of eros (lovers).

I really thank u for ur comments they do give food for thought

About gossiping in the hospital, I believe these environments have a particular proclivity for gossiping. I do believe however that gossiping about gay guys (at least in my country) is turning a little boring. Some years ago if someone said that someone else was gay you would hear "oh no I can't believe this he looks like a man" and now most people would say "yeah so what?". So I think it's more intriguing gossiping about hidden affairs or married guys.

I think i tend to believe they dont have sex but they love each other. Love is a confusing word. Don't we love our friends? But then again, do we hug them, kiss them or sleep together? But with whoever we sleep do we love him? Everybody says that they love their friends but it's just a word. Maybe love requires a bit of touching and feeling but without desiring sexual intercourse? And a second thought of mine. These guy are good looking and young. And they have sex with women (rumor has it). So maybe having sex between them just waits for a sparkle?

I'm sooo confused with this term. I'm a little stubborn maybe. I believe that u can either be gay or str8, I don't believe in bi, str8 curious etc. However there are cases that trouble me.

It's about two people that I know. They're both males and they work in the same hospital as I. I don't really know them just their names and a few things more than that. Oddly, as I was eating  my lunch (at work) I overheard two colleagues "arguing" whether these two guys are gay or  not (which was also rude because they didnt know me well I could be a friend of them, whatever). But from what I heard the "bromance thing" showed up in my mind and I would just like your opinion about that.

These guys are 30 plus, one is neurosurgeon and the other is a family doctor. These guys live together. They had gf from time to time but they live together for almost a decade and no plans of getting married. I know for a fact that he's also cooking for him because I've heard him saying to someone that the other guy doest like that so he is not cooking. Everyone is considering them as  "one" they  would invite both of them somewhere. It may sound weird but on the one hand they don't care if people talks (so someone could say that they're ot of thecloset) but on the other hand I don't believe they're gay. I feel  a bit confused. It's none of my business, I'm mostly curious whether such a relationship can be a bromance and if it happens  between str8 men.