No pussy is as good as faggot pussy

[tallslenderguy]

17 minutes ago, ErosWired said:

I suspect that’s an overly generous assessment - boys make life hell for other boys for lots of reasons having little to do with their personal sexuality. Any sign of weakness will do as leverage to lift one boy over another in the pecking order; it’s just that finding a way to suggest that a boy is less than a boy makes him a particularly tempting target. I have no such illusions that my tormentors were closet gay Tops - there was absolutely no sign of it, and their attraction to females was pathetically on display.

It’s ironic that those young men could somehow detect in me the essence of what I was destined to become, because I had no inkling of it myself then, and couldn’t understand why they were attacking me. I often wonder what trajectory my life would have taken if sexual awareness had come upon me a good deal earlier…I imagine life would have been radically different, and I would have spent many more years submitting to other men’s domination, cruelty, and callous violation of my sex before I had the maturity to put it in proper context. They aren’t any less cruel or callous now, but at least now I’ve learned how to appreciate their needs for what they are and derive a sense of self-value from submitting to them rather that a loss of self-worth from succumbing to them.

Maybe, and maybe not, not drawing a universal conclusion from my personal experience, but i think it can be an added factor in the equation that the dominant culture of many of our childhoods left out. it's speculative and your experiences were different from mine. 

One of the first bullies in my life, at 7 years old, introduced me to the enema nozzle. Our relationship was mixed, sometimes He was friendly, other times mean and a bully. But He was obviously excited when He explained to me what an enema nozzle was for and where it went, and i was just as excited from a receptive position.  

Neither of us had a clue about sex at that age, but that didn't mean we were not wired as sexual beings. i don't think our sexuality can be separated from the rest of who we are. Conquering armies raping both men and women comes to mind. There are plenty of ways to humiliate and subjugate, yet some employ sex as well and i do not believe it's a solely clinical act, even when mixed with establishing pecking order. 

[tallslenderguy]

16 minutes ago, tallslenderguy said:

Maybe, and maybe not, not drawing a universal conclusion from my personal experience, but i think it can be an added factor in the equation that the dominant culture of many of our childhoods left out. it's speculative and your experiences were different from mine. 

One of the first bullies in my life, at 7 years old, introduced me to the enema nozzle. Our relationship was mixed, sometimes He was friendly, other times mean and a bully. But He was obviously excited when He explained to me what an enema nozzle was for and where it went, and i was just as excited from a receptive position.  

Neither of us had a clue about sex at that age, but that didn't mean we were not wired as sexual beings. i don't think our sexuality can be separated from the rest of who we are. Conquering armies raping both men and women comes to mind. There are plenty of ways to humiliate and subjugate, yet some employ sex as well and i do not believe it's a solely clinical act, even when mixed with establishing pecking order. 

A little editing on that first paragraph:

Maybe, and maybe not. i don't mean to imply that all my or any gay persons bullies were just repressed or immature gays. Also, not drawing a universal conclusion from my personal experience. But i think this can be an added factor in the equation and that the dominant culture of many of our childhoods leave gay kids  out of that equation. it's speculative and your experiences were different from mine. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

Yes and no?  You were a kid in a society where both being a faggot and wanting a faggot were vilified. 

i was also one of those kids bullied, a lot. Coming to terms with that as an adult was confused and drawn out because i was also conditioned by fundamentalist 'christian' culture. Fundamentalists adopted disproved Freudian notions that gay people are the result of bullies and 'bad' parenting (i.e., a dominant mom and submissive dad). 

what i have come to understand is there are Tops and bottoms (and everything in between), and guys who like guys. i've always been a bottom who loves guys and can clearly trace all my childhood crushes as far back as 6 or 7 years old.

i can also look back and see what a faggot i was.  i think i naturally attracted gay Top boys who were just as conditioned against who they were as i was. Not to mention we were all kids and didn't know anything anyway. i think a lot of my bullies were simply immature gay Top/Dom boys who were stuck in and affected by the same rejecting and destructive culture.  Prolly a lot of them were conflicted and unhappy about how they were and felt too. 

By the time i was about 13, i'd learned to hide the faggot that i am, conform outwardly, built the proverbial "closet."  But i have never changed inwardly.  Now when a Man calls me a faggot, especially with love and affection because He too is accepting His desires and needs, it's affirming. 

Yes, as young guys we didn't know  very much about sexual issues. It seemed so natural to drop your underwear and to let the top do his thing. I was attracted to young, butch guys, and they were attracted to me, and so I did for them, and they to me, what was so natural, and yet we did what we did secretly, because we instinctively knew that what we wanted to do with each other was unacceptable. Then, unhappily, at 13, I became a closet faggot and hated what I was because I was made aware that my desires were "unnatural," and my strict religious training became a constant reminder to me of my immanent eternal punishment. What was interesting is that  my fear of hell didn't stop me from having sex with guys. Somehow I pushed the idea of hell out of my mind and just focused on what guys liked doing with me. It was only after sex, that I became overwhelmed with guilt and used the confessional to make things right with God. As I grew older, and more mature in my thinking, I began to jettison these outdated notions of hell, and adopted a wiser perspective of my sexual orientation and became more content in my doing what I've accepted as a perfectly natural way of being, of living happily.

Edited March 4, 2022 by hotpussyboy

[Guest]

My experience with women and men, male sex last way longer.  I've had a girlfriend that was slutty so it make sex more fun, but there were things missing.  I started to have gay sex with my buddy he and I were same age.  When I started dating my girlfriend I was 18 and very much not a virgin to gay sex.  Now if I had a few of the hot guys that lived near us join so I could suck their cocks and they could fuck me while fucking her, sex would have been better.  For me I like to be equal with others, take charge tops fucking me for hours is more fun than 10 min with a female.  They are less bitchy too.  Not sure why so many of the women I've been around have to carry so much drama and narcissism.  Growing up around a lot of women that always needed to be in charge sucked.  If I want to submit, it's going to be to cocks.  One or many a day all cumming in me is true freedom! 

[BannedWord]

1 hour ago, NatureBoy said:

For me I like to be equal with others, take charge tops fucking me for hours is more fun than 10 min with a female.  They are less bitchy too.  

And there's a whole bunch less pretense in just getting to sex that is...refreshing. For guys, it's sex, fun, and fulfillment, and orgasm is cathartic. No bitchiness about "well I didn't get off" or "what about me" or the notion of withholding sex in order to manipulate guys into getting what the other wants. I reckon this is a big part of why guys just give up or you have the whole "MGTOW" (Men going their own way) movement among guys that have just had it with female entitlement psychology.

Sorry...not to get lost on a tangent there and not meant to be female bashing. Anyway...we were discussing that men, even effeminate ones, tend to be less about the games and chase and manipulation and at least approach it all from a similar standpoint: It's about mutual gratification, not about trying to use 'pussy' as power.

And I've probably pissed off a whole bunch of people who might disagree with all of that, so feel free to comment on why. 😀

[ErosWired]

2 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

it's speculative and your experiences were different from mine. 

Without a doubt. While religion certainly played a significant role in my perception of my eventual development as a sexual being, it wasn’t as much an overt influence - sex simply was not spoken of in my family. The subtext, therefore, was that all of it was bad, and anything not strictly sanctioned for marital/procreative purposes was worse.

Add to this my autistic nature, which left me sexually both utterly naïve and absolutely uninterested until far, far beyond my peers, and you have someone whose experience is not useful for comparison to anyone… except that it gave me a certain objectivity of observation on the behavior of those around me, who were swimming in a sea of hormones when I was not. I didn’t understand why they were acting toward me the way they did, but I could see the patterns in it. Now, I can look back with greater experience and understanding and place those observations in context to speculate on their motivations.

It’s absolutely speculative. As I said, I often speculate about what kind of person I would have become had things been even a tiny bit different - what if a single dominant bully had taken the initiative to actually coerce me into a sex act? He would have awakened me to a sexual reality many years sooner, and what would have happened once I had had a bite of that illicit fruit? Would it have frightened and scarred me and delayed my growth even more? Or would it - as I tend to think more likely - have set me on a path that would have created a person I would scarcely recognize today, assuming I had even survived the pre-ART era?

 In a way, I mourn the potential that never was, because I was never presented the choice. The dominant bully never chose to act on me. The closest that I’m aware of was once at the public library, when I was in high school, an adult man very consciously positioned himself on the opposite side of a range of open bookshelves where I could easily see him, and began stroking his very prominent bulge right in front of my face as I knelt down to look at some books. In my innocence I only thought that wasn’t right, and quickly left. In hindsight, that was a big cock, and would have made a significant first impression. Alas. But a part of me also is glad that that younger me had the sense to know what he was ready for and what he wasn’t.

I imagine a past in which I could have gone through college with full sexual abandon, embracing my true role and becoming a highly proficient service cunt at an early stage. With my penchant for public performance, I could easily have been attracted to work in pornography, or at least in sex work. The work ethic I get from my family would have bern none the less, so I feel sure I would have met with some measure of success at whatever I set myself to do.

And as a result, I would not have accomplished the things I have, that I take pride in now, I would not have had a career in public service (well - it would have been a very different kind of public service) and most critically, my two children would not exist on this planet. That, above all else, leaves me content that the past unfolded as it did. At that cost, I would not change one millisecond of it. Thus, all my speculation is moot.

[ErosWired]

41 minutes ago, TheSRQDude said:

And there's a whole bunch less pretense in just getting to sex that is...refreshing. For guys, it's sex, fun, and fulfillment, and orgasm is cathartic. No bitchiness about "well I didn't get off" or "what about me" or the notion of withholding sex in order to manipulate guys into getting what the other wants. I reckon this is a big part of why guys just give up or you have the whole "MGTOW" (Men going their own way) movement among guys that have just had it with female entitlement psychology.

Sorry...not to get lost on a tangent there and not meant to be female bashing. Anyway...we were discussing that men, even effeminate ones, tend to be less about the games and chase and manipulation and at least approach it all from a similar standpoint: It's about mutual gratification, not about trying to use 'pussy' as power.

And I've probably pissed off a whole bunch of people who might disagree with all of that, so feel free to comment on why. 😀

I don’t disagree at all - I think you’re absolutely right that the whole pretense of men’s approach to sex with other men is (by and large) different and less fraught. It’s somehow easier to take pleasure in seeing that the other guy just got his nut, and, hey, if you didn’t quite get there yourself, that’s easily remedied in a couple of minutes, and there’s always next time.

Plus, even in those situations where it isn’t about mutual gratification - where you have dominant males using quiescent males for their own pleasure without concern for the other - there’s very often a kind of symbiosis at play in which the submissive male is actually obtaining a secondary kind of gratification, so the whole arrangement works out equitably.

It might be noted that in BDSM circles, female submissives also obtain this kind of secondary gratification from dominants in scenes where one-way sexual gratification is the intent, but the broader context of those scenes is a relationship in which female relationship needs and requirements must be accommodated; with males, this is less so.

[hntnhole]

8 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

stuck in and affected by the same rejecting and destructive culture.

When the roots of a tree are infected, so is the trunk, limbs and branches.  The entire tree rots from within, and the result is malformed leaves.  From the mightiest oak to the tenderest sapling, cultural bullshit stemming from the pseudo-religiosity of a hugely altered Original Message infects our culture, and has for far longer than most realize.  We can't depend on some magical celestial gardener to come rid us of the poison - that's something we must do ourselves.  Otherwise, we only spread the infection, generation after generation.

[Hot2fuck]

I have lots of married guys that use my hole. They message me to see if I’m free (I always am unless I’m working), they give me 30min to clean before they turn up. They say they would rather fuck my hole instead of their wife/gf because it’s easier than going through all the romance stuff.

[hntnhole]

On 8/8/2018 at 12:08 AM, Guest TWINKFAGGOTPUSSY said:

Should be every real faggot pussy's goal to take as many toxic unmedicated loads as possible

Of course not.  The goal of every cumdump worth the title is to satisfy raw Cocks.  More, to protect himself as well as the Cocks he services, he should take mitigatory steps to do that, thus enabling him to service many more Cocks over his lifetime than may otherwise be the case. 

[BannedWord]

On 3/2/2022 at 11:59 AM, mikeboi1 said:

A female wants sex, but she wants romance, and likes to make a man beg, wait for her to be fucked when she finally decides and a man as to wait for sometime before he gets her to let him fuck her. Not to mention she wants respect, tenderness, curtesy and even a dinner before a man will fuck her and treat her with respect, love and equal.

There's a saying that the woman holds the key to sex, but the man holds the key to love. Maybe that's true, but in a way I think it's pure heteronormative bullshit designed to manipulate us away from other options. If we got past the pretentiousness about why sex needs to happen in a prescribed order or "he won't respect me" or "he'll think I'm a slut if I fuck him right away", there'd probably be a lot more happier men and women. Men like sex. We enjoy sex. Heck, some of us are even young enough to remember sex. 😂🤣 But I'm too old to even want to play the game of how long we need to wait to move to that level.

On 3/2/2022 at 11:59 AM, mikeboi1 said:

A man wants to feel like a Man! He want to feel he is dominant and not her equal! He wants to dominate to have her make him feel like an Alpha male that he is! He wants to grab her by the hair, shove her face in his cock and tell her suck that cock whore, undress her and make her feel like he is the hunter and she is his prey! He fucks his conquested prey as she his humiliated with her legs spread open being fucked.

Now a faggot will do all that, a faggot loves being humiliated, verbally abused, slapped around and speaking for myself even loves being raped and will do anything to please his alpha male and be his hunted prey at his alpha male mercy. 

You had me up until this.  My question would be "do they really?"

I don't think every guy wants to be the 'Jerk Alpha male' you're describing in degrading their partner, male or female because in a way it implies that it's all about his pleasure, forget anyone else's. If that's what you're equating to Alpha male...ok then. I also don't think everyone you consider a 'faggot' (or 'fagot' (sic ) ) will act or respond in the same way. While it might be your experience, it falls in the category of "your mileage may vary". I'm certainly not a beta male, but if you equate this to the BDSM world, there is such a thing as 'aftercare' and 'safe words'.  I get more than a bit concerned with the mention of rape in any context and I don't know that everyone subscribes to the same treatment of faggots.

[Phallarchist]

On 3/4/2022 at 7:29 AM, ErosWired said:

I would also suggest that the anuses of certain males, even though they have another, unrelated, function, also ‘exist to be fucked’

No, I meant 'exists to be fucked' in the evolutionary sense. There is no mechanism for the mutual adaptation of penis to rectum, and indeed their interoperability is accidental and approximate at best.

 

On 3/4/2022 at 7:29 AM, ErosWired said:

a submissive cumdump male…has such a nature because he exists to be fucked

I think that's a tautology.

 

On 3/4/2022 at 7:29 AM, ErosWired said:

why I am the way I am: It is intended that I should be cunted for the benefit of men.

I don't how it would be "intended", if it's an evolutionary metaphor. You would have to demonstrate that the men who fuck you have superior lineages to those of a similar cohort of men who do not. I expect that many in the first group will never even reproduce, so the proposition seems unlikely.

If you are referring to a supernatural intention, then I leave you to it.

Or perhaps you simply mean that you find yourself best suited to this function in life. I certainly wouldn't argue with the psychological need for meaning and purpose, but I would struggle to discern an "intention".

 

On 3/4/2022 at 7:29 AM, ErosWired said:

[E]mptying the rectum for use for a common fucking by any average phallus requires (at minimum) a simple evacuation, and even the most rigorous cleaning may be accomplished within hours. In the female case, the invalidating condition can take the hole out of service for days at a time.

Far more men will fuck through menstrual blood (44% in one survey) than shit. I can't prove it, but if I'm wrong, then I want a divorce from the human race. Anyway, menstrual flow is heavy for perhaps 3 days, so even with this restriction against filth, real cunt is more or less clean and ready for a man ~90% of the month. The digestive tract, on the other hand, has to be cleaned or at least checked before every fuck.

[ronnie4u]

Simply HOT and Delicious Faggot Pussy - let the Fems showing them off - wanting a pussy so badly !

[ErosWired]

52 minutes ago, Phallarchist said:

I think that's a tautology.

If you mean I’m saying “they exist to be fucked because they exist to be fucked” - I think, therefore I am; I am, therefore I think. At least, I think so. 😀

I like tautologies. They’re chewy.

55 minutes ago, Phallarchist said:

You would have to demonstrate that the men who fuck you have superior lineages to those of a similar cohort of men who do not. I expect that many in the first group will never even reproduce, so the proposition seems unlikely.

Just because they don’t pass their lineage forward doesn’t mean they don’t descend  from it. The lineage of those who inseminate, as a class, must be evolutionarily superior to that of those who do not, regardless of whether individual members of the class are procreatively successful. If a man and his brother are both virile inseminators possessing superior evolutionary traits, and one is successful in producing viable offspring and the other is not, it doesn’t alter their traits - external factors, including the actual fertility of the breeding target, affect the success of procreation.

1 hour ago, Phallarchist said:

If you are referring to a supernatural intention, then I leave you to it.

Ha! Perhaps it would be more accurate to say: It appears that, following the natural order of things, I should be cunted for the benefit of men.

1 hour ago, Phallarchist said:

Far more men will fuck through menstrual blood (44% in one survey) than shit. I can't prove it, but if I'm wrong, then I want a divorce from the human race. Anyway, menstrual flow is heavy for perhaps 3 days, so even with this restriction against filth, real cunt is more or less clean and ready for a man ~90% of the month. The digestive tract, on the other hand, has to be cleaned or at least checked before every fuck.

That 44% figure surprises me as rather high; I would be interested in knowing the figure based on a review of such polls. The duration of menstrual flow may be generalized, but is considerably varied. A close friend of mine just reported completing her 21st continuous day of bleeding - obviously an anomalous condition, but 3-and-done is by no means a reliable measure. And, onset cannot necessarily be reliably predicted, and can be influenced by various factors. Add to this - perhaps most significantly - that a male’s assessment of whether a vagina is in a fuckable state may be, and in my experience often is, at odds with the owner’s assessment. At that point access becomes a matter of coercion or non-consent.

I don’t dispute that an inspection of the rectum is generally necessary prior to use, but the rectum is actually usually empty. Storage of waste occurs up-colon, and the rectum fills only when it is time for expulsion. This allows for the necessary nerve triggering caused by stretching and expansion of the rectum on filling. The average length of the rectum rather comfortably accommodates cocks of average size, so in most cases, a cursory inspection will find that the cunt is serviceable for an average cock the majority of the time, even if the bottom had not gone to the effort to prep. This cannot necessarily be said for larger cocks that would penetrate past the S-Junction. But I would submit that the incidence of a faggot declining a cock because he felt that the conditions weren’t right would be markedly less than that of females, for whom initiating a fuck may be compared to trying to launch a Space Shuttle.

[BannedWord]

6 hours ago, ErosWired said:

That 44% figure surprises me as rather high; I would be interested in knowing the figure based on a review of such polls. The duration of menstrual flow may be generalized, but is considerably varied. A close friend of mine just reported completing her 21st continuous day of bleeding - obviously an anomalous condition, but 3-and-done is by no means a reliable measure. And, onset cannot necessarily be reliably predicted, and can be influenced by various factors. Add to this - perhaps most significantly - that a male’s assessment of whether a vagina is in a fuckable state may be, and in my experience often is, at odds with the owner’s assessment. At that point access becomes a matter of coercion or non-consent.

If you get beyond that I'm not a vampire and not going down when a woman is menstruating, there's a lot of women who are totally down for fucking during their period if the guy doesn't mind things being fairly messy. And sometimes you're both horny enough that you really both want to get off. It's also not that ovulating time of the month, so if pregnancy is the concern, it's relatively safe. (Caveat that I'm not a doctor or play one on TV)

6 hours ago, ErosWired said:

I don’t dispute that an inspection of the rectum is generally necessary prior to use, but the rectum is actually usually empty. Storage of waste occurs up-colon, and the rectum fills only when it is time for expulsion. This allows for the necessary nerve triggering caused by stretching and expansion of the rectum on filling. The average length of the rectum rather comfortably accommodates cocks of average size, so in most cases, a cursory inspection will find that the cunt is serviceable for an average cock the majority of the time, even if the bottom had not gone to the effort to prep. 

Given that, the question is how thoroughly one really needs to clean out if you just want to fuck and aren't Mandingo-sized? Or to pardon the pun, are we resorting to being gentlemen and pushing your stool in? 😂🤣

I personally haven't had someone have a need to completely evacuate their colon worth of multiple days of fecal matter just to be down to fuck. Is that the minority experience here?