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In the process of setting up a private club.  Out in the boonies, private with privacy fences added.  It will be BYOB

Not asking for anything on the legal side of things, just on some of the logistics.

Does anyone have any experience?

1.  Best way to keep members in touch and communicating with each other.  KIK, WhatsApp, etc.  Probably something easy and not require much in the way of computer savvy so things like discourse server may not be best option.

2.  Best way to collect membership fees.   Looked at different crowd funding for help in getting it started.

We're speared by some reasonable distances, so just dropping cash off isn't a really good method.

3.  And maybe most important,  If you've done it before what kind of things did you find out later that you should have thought of.

 

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For me the easiest way to communicate is via email or text. Most of my guys like text. Some guys prefer AP. We don’t charge. However we do ask guys to bring supplies like pads, paper towels their own lube.... Most importantly you need to control who comes. Keep the mix changing. Welcome new guys. Limit the number of guys. I have had up to 100 or so guys and that can easily get out of hand. For fucking and/or fisting I generally like to have no more than 20 guys. For BDSM no more than four. Start small and see how it goes. It can be a lot of fun, but it can also be a LOT of work. The point is for everyone to have a fun time including you. 

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What really makes a difference at these things is to be engaging and welcoming to everyone, not just guys you fancy...  If you see someone on the sidelines, go make them feel welcome and involve them. It'll pretty much guarantee they'll feel more comfortable joining in and come back for more. Some guys are shy going to these kinds of events, especially the first time and it can be intimidating if everyone else seems to know each other and be at ease. 

I've had experience of small fetish parties for a long time - and we've seen all sorts over many years. 99.9% of the time the guys are wonderful and it's great - you meet some wonderful people... but you need to be be prepared for the minority who ruin the vibe:

  • you may need to physically remove someone against their will when they're too drunk/high and spoiling things for everyone else. Knowing how to handle this is useful. 
  • people passing out (or worse) from being too high/drink/or overdoing poppers. poppers and viagra is a bad combo!
  • there'll always be one guy who won't take no for an answer and be a complete nuisance to everyone else. The first time I give them a frank talking to, the second they get removed. The third, they get banned. 
  • On the other hand the scorned queen who approaches a guy, gets rejected, and then tells management the guy tried to sell drugs to get revenge. 
  • Some guy gets cum on his limited edition Armani suit (which looks like it came from Primark) after he's been in the darkroom and wants you to pay for it to be dry cleaned or replaced. 
  • People losing their stuff in the darkroom (usually their phone) and they want you to pay for a replacement. 
  • If you have a coat/bag check, people claiming they had stuff stolen. (CCTV camera in cloakroom area to prove nothing happened is useful)
  • One party we had a couple of guys into dirty fisting (bear in mind this was a foot fetish party) who managed to ruin one of the dark playspaces. We ejected and barred them and had to close that room for the night. 

Risk assessments... think about how things might go wrong and how to avoid it in the first place, and how you'd handle it if it happens. Use that to draw up some house rules.

One of the contentious things is whether you allow people to take photos/video with their phone in the party. On the one hand it's good publicity, on the other hand a privacy nightmare if someone gets filmed against their will. Having a clear policy "if you come in, expect to be filmed" or "filming/photos are banned".  Personally I'd like to ban smartphones from inside play venues for a variety of reasons, but there is too much pushback in the UK from customers on this. It's kinda sad when you get guys in a party who are more interested in Grindr/Scruff than who's there in person!

Andy

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9 hours ago, AirmaxAndy said:

What really makes a difference at these things is to be engaging and welcoming to everyone, not just guys you fancy...  If you see someone on the sidelines, go make them feel welcome and involve them. It'll pretty much guarantee they'll feel more comfortable joining in and come back for more. Some guys are shy going to these kinds of events, especially the first time and it can be intimidating if everyone else seems to know each other and be at ease. 

I've had experience of small fetish parties for a long time - and we've seen all sorts over many years. 99.9% of the time the guys are wonderful and it's great - you meet some wonderful people... but you need to be be prepared for the minority who ruin the vibe:

  • you may need to physically remove someone against their will when they're too drunk/high and spoiling things for everyone else. Knowing how to handle this is useful. 
  • people passing out (or worse) from being too high/drink/or overdoing poppers. poppers and viagra is a bad combo!
  • there'll always be one guy who won't take no for an answer and be a complete nuisance to everyone else. The first time I give them a frank talking to, the second they get removed. The third, they get banned. 
  • On the other hand the scorned queen who approaches a guy, gets rejected, and then tells management the guy tried to sell drugs to get revenge. 
  • Some guy gets cum on his limited edition Armani suit (which looks like it came from Primark) after he's been in the darkroom and wants you to pay for it to be dry cleaned or replaced. 
  • People losing their stuff in the darkroom (usually their phone) and they want you to pay for a replacement. 
  • If you have a coat/bag check, people claiming they had stuff stolen. (CCTV camera in cloakroom area to prove nothing happened is useful)
  • One party we had a couple of guys into dirty fisting (bear in mind this was a foot fetish party) who managed to ruin one of the dark playspaces. We ejected and barred them and had to close that room for the night. 

Risk assessments... think about how things might go wrong and how to avoid it in the first place, and how you'd handle it if it happens. Use that to draw up some house rules.

One of the contentious things is whether you allow people to take photos/video with their phone in the party. On the one hand it's good publicity, on the other hand a privacy nightmare if someone gets filmed against their will. Having a clear policy "if you come in, expect to be filmed" or "filming/photos are banned".  Personally I'd like to ban smartphones from inside play venues for a variety of reasons, but there is too much pushback in the UK from customers on this. It's kinda sad when you get guys in a party who are more interested in Grindr/Scruff than who's there in person!

Andy

Your parties sound fun! 

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I have no experience starting a sex club whatsoever, but based on the two clubs I go to:

  • There's a theme for each day of the week. For example, naked Sundays, 50% off Tuesdays, no bottom Wednesdays (i.e. you roam around with a shirt on but no undies and towels to cover your privates), fancy undies Thursdays, etc.
  • Customers get updates via SMS
  • Pay as you come in. There's an annual membership card with an expiration date, so when a customer with an expired membership comes in, a membership fee will be collected on top of the entrance fee. A new card will then be issued.
  • Phones are allowed only in private cabins. Absolutely not in shared spaces.
  • No large bags allowed inside. You can only bring a small bag with your essentials and valuables with you in the lockers. The rest are left in a baggage counter.
  • Both the lockers and the baggage counters are CCTV-protected.
  • The number of people inside is also monitored to avoid overcrowding.
  • Members are asked to read and sign a very short document with all the house rules before entry. It's literally just a small slip of paper---very short and easy to read.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

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so I would recommend for keeping in contact with a large number of people, use either a mobile messaging app like WhatsApp or a mailing list like Google groups

 

As for collecting fees or money upfront to start the stuff I would say either use GoFundMe or system called patreon and then later on if you want to collect monthly fees you could switch to an actual payment processor like Stripe/PayPal and use a free mobile app to manage it all.

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