New Meaning of “No Load Refused Cumdump?”

[BlackDude]

I just got the perfect example. 100% true story. 

Last week, a guy posted on a site he was “ass up ready to take loads, door unlocked, walk in and breed.” Even posts his downtown address.

I drive down, find parking, and start walking to the listed address. As I approach I see the dude sitting outside, fully clothed, smoking a cigarette. I turned around and left.

He never had any intention of the anon scene. He only posted that add so he could get more clicks, with the full intention of screening everyone online who inquired or screening them at the door. Which is fine, just be upfront and don’t waste people’s time.

[valldelxeno]

On 3/21/2021 at 2:50 AM, MuscledHorse said:

Some guys want to pretend at being massive manwhores but really want to be selective. That is not how the true male cum dumpster lives. We spread out legs for any guy as long as means we'll be filled with yet another nut load. Guys that put up exceptions haven't truly let go and given themselves over to being the human equivalent of farm yard breeding stock. 

This is me, except I'm sensible enough not to plaster it all over machobb and the other apps. I would love to be a total cum dumpster but I'm just not. I can't get over being a bit selective. So I just stick with being a bit of a slut.  

 

I think some guys might be internally understanding "no load refused" as "no load refused (for its hiv status)" which is obviously not the point of the phrase, but they are probably essentially bugchasing without saying as much.

[LetsPOZBreed]

All of these points hit the nail on the head to varying degrees.  IMHO, it is partly down to the fact that some guys are into the fantasy of it all, until reality confronts them.  They may have been watching various porn scenes where all the men are chiseled and perfect, and think to themselves "I should try that".  Then the messages start coming in, and the guy realises that we all aren't 25 with a six-pack and an 8 inch dick.  Or they realise that there is a possibility that a guy can be properly toxic or give them an STI. 

I enjoy taking loads, but have never advertised myself as "no loads refused".  In normal times, if I'm in a mood for multiple tops or a group scenario, I'll head to a sauna or cruise spot.  Everyone there knows what they're getting into - (though I have had to bat away the grabby hands of bottoms trying to reach through my jockstrap for my cock; there's a damn good reason my ass is out and my cock isn't).  I also grew tired of tops on the apps/sites that are more interested in asking me if how many loads I have before entertaining the idea of coming over. 

[atyl7u]

I personally don't want to ever see who is using me. I only want to be used while blindfolded or hooded. I do ask the guys to describe themselves, includiing ethinicity, but no answer would make me turn the guy down. I've set myself up in a motel room, put an ad out and for any responses have told them where the room key is to be found so they can let themselves in, and I'll be waiting, restrained, blindfolded and helpless so they can fuck any of my holes.  So far none of the guys have topped me bareback, but I'm desperately looking for someone who can host/entertain and wants to fuck a sissy CD bareback.

[BootmanLA]

2 hours ago, BlackDude said:

I just got the perfect example. 100% true story. 

Last week, a guy posted on a site he was “ass up ready to take loads, door unlocked, walk in and breed.” Even posts his downtown address.

I drive down, find parking, and start walking to the listed address. As I approach I see the dude sitting outside, fully clothed, smoking a cigarette. I turned around and left.

He never had any intention of the anon scene. He only posted that add so he could get more clicks, with the full intention of screening everyone online who inquired or screening them at the door. Which is fine, just be upfront and don’t waste people’s time.

You're probably right, but there's still one possibility here (based on what you posted, though there may be more which would rule this out): Perhaps he posted the ad four hours ago; he's gotten zero hits, or at least not in quite a while, and as a smoker, he starts feeling the need for a nicotine hit, so he pulls on some clothes and runs outside to smoke for a few. And you show up. (I said possible, not "likely"). Could even be that he posted a quick update to his message ("out for a few, back in ten") that you completely missed while you were driving. Again, as I say, possible, not judging likelihood.

To me, that's a sign to call him on it, though. I'd have sent a message that says "I followed your instructions and when I arrived, you were actually dressed, outside, and smoking. What gives?" If it was a misunderstanding as I suggest is possible, he can say so, and if nothing else, it might prompt him to realize taking those breaks means missing out. Or he might try to bluff his way out and lie and say "that wasn't me". But you might at least have some idea of what he claims happened.

[atlfukbud]

Excellent points men! On BBRT and other hookup apps these days it seems to only be "cumdumps" or "taking all loads" if you're in the top 5% of your class -- so be fit, young, sexy and hung or prepare to have your time wasted. I hope this is a "pandemic phenomenon" and we get past the game playing and back to real men breeding soon. 🙏🙏

[cumslutfuckpig]

There are a lot of connotations built in IMHO.  No loads refused not only should be a blanket "yes" to all tops, it's also a tacit "no questions about status asked" statement.  In these cases, poz tops are more likely to play, especially if the bottom is neg, because the question of risk assumption has already been answered, and it's understood that they don't need to disclose.   In SF if you post a "poz my neg hole" ad, you will frequently get no responses.  If you post a "no loads refused" ad, however, that's different.  Guys who are tired of or irritated by verbal poz play know in advance that the bottom isn't going to fetishize them.  Also, I have to wonder if, despite the poz tops who find breeding neg hole problematic, there aren't some who use the fig leaf of mystery to get over whatever ethical concerns they have.  

As to putting it in a profile, it should either be true or left out.  (And it should probably only be there when you can hook up).   If you're trying to say "I'm a total slut but I do turn a few guys away" or "fuck I love cum, but I can't host and can't travel", then there are ways of signaling that that aren't misleading.  

I think there are a lot of guys who use hookup sites like porn, whether because they aren't ready to play for real, or because logistics (time, place) don't work, or because they're aestheticallyi unfortunate and lack confidence (people, this is one of the reasons they invented blindfolds and glory holes).  Where it's free porn, they want descriptions because you're coloring in your character for them.   Guys who are jerking off aren't hard to spot.  Also, there's the pics and / or vids they'll ask for.  The more asymmetric it is, the clearer it is that it's going to go nowhere.  

[Pozguyinchi]

Honestly with me it is most likely no load refused or cumdump but sometimes I want something specific. Like most bottoms I am visual I need to see a man prior to getting bred by him. Men without pics scare me. I don’t know what they are hiding. He could show up and be Donald Trump or something. Lol. Bottoms also need to know there is truth in advertising. If they put it out there that they will take my and all loads they need to own it. I have been fucked by many men that I just wanted their load. I would not want them in any other way.

[ErosWired]

37 minutes ago, neg4charged said:

I think there are a lot of guys who use hookup sites like porn

And here we arrive at the root of sooooo many issues. How many of the negatives about online hookup apps would simply vanish if guys would just stop using them for fapping?

41 minutes ago, neg4charged said:

aestheticallyi unfortunate

Lol - You used nine syllables to say something for which English has more than two dozen words that use three syllables or fewer. Consider:

bad-looking, ill-favored, hard-featured, homely, plain, uncomely, unlovely, unsightly

Or, with more feeling:

appalling, beastly, deformed, disfigured, foul, frightful, gross, grotesque, hideous, horrid, loathsome, misshapen, monstrous, repelling, repugnant, repulsive, revolting

(I have been fucked - and seeded - by candidates for this second set)

Or, adding a syllable or two:

unbeautiful, not much to look at

 

But you’re very diplomatic.  🙂

[ErosWired]

27 minutes ago, Pozguyinchi said:

He could show up and be Donald Trump

That would sorely test my resolve.

[cumslutfuckpig]

ErosWired, I'm diplomatic, but also... I'm not cruel (and we have more than enough of that in our community)... but even more so... I can't tell you how many guys who have fucked me who are not good looking guys.  Maybe they're sehior, or heavy, or just woefully asymmetrical... and yet can fuck like demons and make me howl at the moon while their jizz is painting my innards... And how much poorer I'd be if I was snobby about looks.  I'm serious about blindfolds - why let your eyes get in the way of an amazing fuck?  And. I'm genetically fortunate - I don't get fat.  Like I'm middle-aged and I'm still nicely constructed and it's completely unearned - I do nothing to deserve it.  Walking this planet like I have something over someone who's 40 pounds heavier than they'd like is begging for a comeuppance.  Sometimes a little diplomacy staves off bad karma.  

[TNVersGuy]

I do ask a few questions of the top to get a feel of who he is. Problems I’ve ran into....old guys that are truly looking to get in your room and just watch or just eat ass and can’t get hard, guys that are tricked out on something and can’t get hard, or guys that claim they’re 8” but are 4” and can’t even get close to cumming. 
I love taking all loads but a few questions can many times head off some hookups that simply aren’t going to work. 

[ErosWired]

1 hour ago, neg4charged said:

ErosWired, I'm diplomatic, but also... I'm not cruel (and we have more than enough of that in our community)... but even more so... I can't tell you how many guys who have fucked me who are not good looking guys.  Maybe they're sehior, or heavy, or just woefully asymmetrical... and yet can fuck like demons and make me howl at the moon while their jizz is painting my innards... And how much poorer I'd be if I was snobby about looks.  I'm serious about blindfolds - why let your eyes get in the way of an amazing fuck?  And. I'm genetically fortunate - I don't get fat.  Like I'm middle-aged and I'm still nicely constructed and it's completely unearned - I do nothing to deserve it.  Walking this planet like I have something over someone who's 40 pounds heavier than they'd like is begging for a comeuppance.  Sometimes a little diplomacy staves off bad karma.  

I hear you. And ‘disadvantaged’ men of all sorts are so routinely denied such a basic human need. That’s one of the reasons why I don’t say no to anyone. Everybody deserves to be sexual, because everyone is human. What’s cruel is how our society paints only certain types of people as deserving, and teaches everyone what that standard is supposed to be.

To be sure, in a hetero/potentially reproductive context, biological cues remain at play from an earlier stage in our development as a species - individuals with genetic traits most optimal for survival and adaptation tend to be more attractive as breeding partners, and some get a better set of genes than others. This dynamic is undeniably still in force, and why persons with misshapen bodies are not usually considered on a par with those with symmetry.

But in a homosexual context where there is no reproductive potential, this imperative no longer matters - or rather, it ought not. Yet we see it still, perhaps because some core of our sexual biology remains firmly animal, and it takes an extra effort of higher thinking to extend kindness to those that callous nature might neglect.

[BlackDude]

16 hours ago, atlfukbud said:

Excellent points men! On BBRT and other hookup apps these days it seems to only be "cumdumps" or "taking all loads" if you're in the top 5% of your class -- so be fit, young, sexy and hung or prepare to have your time wasted. I hope this is a "pandemic phenomenon" and we get past the game playing and back to real men breeding soon. 🙏🙏

I think the whole “Cumdump” craze will mostly go away with COVID. Before, the whole game was seeing what different excuses you could make for not hooking up (some excuses are acceptable one time, but that’s another topic).  Now the whole game is telling guys what you would do if it wasn’t for COVID. Guys don’t have to show and prove. For example a dude will say: 

“I’m totally into black guys! I love to be pimped out in a motel with me and all my blue collar buddies. I’d let you shove a devils dick up my ass, and breed me before and after 20 other random dudes have their way! They my jock bud will Felch the loads out after he videos it. But I’m not hooking up right now cause of COVID!” 
 

 

[ErosWired]

20 hours ago, BlackDude said:

I think the whole “Cumdump” craze will mostly go away with COVID.

There’s a ‘craze’? I started legit being a cumdump - by most any definition - in 2017, and am going to go right back to being one when my full immunity kicks in in a couple of weeks. If anything, COVID reduced my ability to talk about how much of a cumdump I’ve been lately.

If you mean that COVID has been a convenient excuse for dishonest fuckers to sexually misrepresent themselves, I agree. But I don’t think COVID’s departure is going to do anything but bring us bona fide cumdumps back emptier and more willing than ever.