tallslenderguy Posted November 13, 2022 Report Posted November 13, 2022 my personal desire/need for degradation took me a long time to understand. It's not generic, actually has to have certain elements for me. i do not consider myself 100% sub, rather, i have sub connecting places that some Tops have surfaced. If a guy is forceful or bulling, purposefully mean, all of those things shut me down, close me off. Depending on the guy, it can even result in a defensive reflex in me. i was with a guy at a bathhouse once who was on top of me and pinched my nipples really hard, he was instantly on the floor and me on top of him. He saw i was pissed and backed way down and we went forward in a vanilla way, He bred me. my need/desire for degradation is mixed with my Top being affectionate, but also needing/wanting to degrade me. For instance, WS can be a big connecting place in me, but it all depends on His tone. i hate role play, so if is just by rote, it doesn't work. Also, opened if He is just doing it because i want/need it. The connection of mutual need/desire has to be there. He has His cock in my mouth or ass and wants/needs to piss, there's this energy that can happen where He discerns i want/need it and it's like both our need/desire connects and feeds off each other. i've experienced this, and it's been FUCKING INCREDIBLE. He starts out a little tentative, sort of feeling me out, but when He sees He has me, He continues with a matter of fact confidence, for instance, His cock may be in my mouth and He says: "i really want to you to drink my piss from my cock." His tone and expressed desire connect to my desire to be used in that degrading way and my response encourages Him to open more, saying: "i want to use you as my toilet." Again, my heat ramps up, and He sees His power and effect on me and continues to control the situation: "you really want to be my toilet, don't you." Getting me to admit it's true. He has not made me do anything, what He has done is exposed me as someone who loves Him and His desire to use me as His toilet. THat's a culturally degrading act, but for me it is simultaneously degrading, fulfilling and affirming. That's just one example for me. 1
Guest Posted November 13, 2022 Report Posted November 13, 2022 Degradation is something that i have faced and endured since my very first sex experience with a friend who forcibly made me his bitch and begin to fuck me before and after school and then had his other friend introduced to me and fuck me for his pleasure, and from that point on i became not just degraded physically but also verbally. through life this as increased being fucked by dominant tops and at other occasions by more then one top with cock in both holes. i have been verbally degraded being called a faggot, whore, slut, and reduced to a mere piece of meat for a tops cock to ejaculate his semen on me and inside of me. I would assume all of us have a different level of degradation and even perception of it. Be it due to experiences or even enjoying as it describes our character and nature as bottoms, others as in my case both total submissive and how deep we have been degraded and mentally and emotionally degraded. since a young age i have been told by my top as he lay inside me pounding my ass and telling me i am nothing more then a pussy bitch whore for men's pleasure to spread my legs like a woman and be their piece of ass. have come to like being degraded and accept as part of my pleasure role as i bend over for men and sex for me is spreading my legs for men and all to enjoy a nice piece of ass. But this degradation for me as been a pleasure and being a stimulant part of my sex desires and pleasure as both needed and stimulating sex pleasure. Since most often when i go to meet men at their place or location for sex I am made to get naked at the door and be totally nude for them, and they enjoy the view and some inspect the entire package before engaging in actual sex. I have had tops who inspected me as a slave both teeth, entire mouth, spread my ass to see closely my pussy hole. I say pussy because that is what most men have referred to my asshole and made it clear to me and degraded me to being nothing a mere pussy fuck hole to them. All this degradation is like an euphoria high for me that i crave it more and more. Now in my mind and desires is to be even deeper, I am now turned on and excited just being nude and seeing men all dressed up looking at me naked. Now i crave to even become a gay stripper. i admit it excites me the idea of going on a stage with dozens if not hundreds of men all dressed up in their jeans, suits or what ever they are wearing and me on a stage with a jock strap or sexy underwear and with a spot light on me and they are all with their drinks looking on as i perform and proceed to strip nude completely. for me it as become a dream desire and yet the most ultimate humiliation. It excites me the only one nude no body hair to hide anything, totally exposed, cock dangling, and spreading my legs and my pussy hole in total view for all to see. For me its ultimate humiliation, but I have always been a shy and even timid person, but sex i also become submissive, and even a slave. So i would say its now my ultimate desire and humiliation, As humiliation as become a word and an acceptable part of my life that pleasure and humiliation go hand on hand. its now my ultimate desire of even seeking this profession or even experiencing it for a brief time as my ultimate humiliation of public stage nude and total exposure of my body for the pleasure and viewing of others to enjoy and stimulate their sexual desires. As like manner porn acting is equally stimulating for me but I have to admit stripper is far more with live audience of so many men enjoying my naked viewing for their pleasure. i can only say humiliation as become something that I have come to enjoy and even seek it more and more to an even deeper level!
Aidsbait Posted November 13, 2022 Report Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) that’s a tough one to answer as I am such a submissive pussyboy cumdumpster and have been used, abused and degraded by so many twisted perverts and pigs in so many nasty, dehumanizing ways. also I think the most normal straight guys often do the dirtiest stuff to us cause to a straight man its surreal that anyone would enjoy being used and degraded like the dirtiest faggots do and we do it for free, no strings attached, no questions asked, no reciprocation, no explanation or respect needed. and a lot of straight men think of cumdump faggots as subhuman freaks anyhow so its fun for them to degrade a whore like me. plus a lot of it is stuff that can only be shared in the backroom. and my MOST degrading stuff is too dirty for there even. I would actually love to see the moderator migrate this topic to the backroom so many of the trashy whores on this site can let loose and we can tell you most of the really nasty degrading stuff men have done to us. I’ve been used in public, passed around, used as a toilet, strangled unconcious, fist fucked to the elbow and had too many object shoved up my ass to remember. I have also been completely feminized, loaned out and just generally used by thousands of males. the most degrading thing a straight man has done to me (as far as I am allowed to post in this section) is the straight man who met me in a porntheatre, took all my clothing, wrote dirty stuff all over my body in permanent marker (stuff like FUCK ME, CUMDUMPSTER, I TAKE ALL LOADS, FAGGOT, and FUCKHOLE) and used me all night, fucking my pussy, fucking my mouth, pissing on me a few times, spitting in my face repeatedly and telling me what a "disgusting faggot" I am. he was actually the first man to call me Aidsbait. plus he offered my body to every single guy that came in and asked each one of them to piss in my mouth and all over my face. then in the morning as it started getting light out he gave me back my shoes, took me outside to the alley (still naked behind the porntheatre and fucked me till a homeless guy came along and he got the homeless man to fuck his load into me and then piss on me, then he asked the homeless man that just fucked me where a couple of their buddies were and apparently they were at a park a few blocks away. so he gave me my underwear and we walked through downtown on main streets to get there. he stopped 3 times on the way so I could get down on my knees and suck his cock right at the side of the street, including once at a stoplight where he told me “get on your knees and suck my cock till the light changes” and when I was sucking him he said “pull out your cock and jerk off when you suck me” so I did and a few cars drove by. one honked lol. then we got to the park and his 2 homeless buddies were there and he said “look what I brought you guys to fuck” got me to give him back my underwear and they all fucked a load into me right there on a bench in the park. a woman came in and watched them fuck me and a few people in the apartment overlooking the park watched. they finished by pissing on me while I jerked off and came(the woman wanted to see me cum). the next time I saw him in the porntheatre I asked him how he knew so many homeless guys and he told me it was cause he was homeless and him and his buddies have an agreement to “share any easy fucks”. he also told me he was straight but as a homeless guy its hard to find chicks willing to take his load “so I fuck faggots just to get my nut” he ended up fucking me regularly for awhile and would always whore me out to whoever came in cause he knew I would let anyone fuck me bareback. he told me he used to have a slut like me who would let anyone he wants fuck him but he was picky about who barebacked him. I still remember him saying “l know you dont give a fuck who blows their load in you” and he literally used me for a toilet every time he fucked me. he actually said he pissed on me “cause nobody with any self-respect would let me” and “to remind you that I dont care about you. you’re just some gross faggot that lets me breed it” he started calling his homeless buddies to the porntheatre to fuck me and they would either fuck me in a booth, one or two at a time, or I would pay their entrance fee so they could fuck me and piss on me in the theatre. there was also the straight guy who fucked me in a public restroom a few times who would always use my mouth for an ashtray and make me lick his piss off the floor. or the man in the porntheatre who would collect used condoms and empty them in my ass and make me lick cum off the floor and the sole of his shoe or just lick his boots while random men fucked me dogystyle on the floor or the seats. Problem is I’m such trash, this is all vanilla for me. Edited November 13, 2022 by Aidsbait 1 1
Aidsbait Posted November 13, 2022 Report Posted November 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Aidsbait said: that’s a tough one to answer as I am such a submissive pussyboy cumdumpster and have been used, abused and degraded by so many twisted perverts and pigs in so many nasty, dehumanizing ways. also I think the most normal straight guys often do the dirtiest stuff to us cause to a straight man its surreal that anyone would enjoy being used and degraded like the dirtiest faggots do and we do it for free, no strings attached, no questions asked, no reciprocation, no explanation or respect needed. and a lot of straight men think of cumdump faggots as subhuman freaks anyhow so its fun for them to degrade a whore like me. plus a lot of it is stuff that can only be shared in the backroom. and my MOST degrading stuff is too dirty for there even. I would actually love to see the moderator migrate this topic to the backroom so many of the trashy whores on this site can let loose and we can tell you most of the really nasty degrading stuff men have done to us. I’ve been used in public, passed around, used as a toilet, strangled unconcious, fist fucked to the elbow and had too many object shoved up my ass to remember. I have also been completely feminized, loaned out and just generally used by thousands of males. the most degrading thing a straight man has done to me (as far as I am allowed to post in this section) is the straight man who met me in a porntheatre, took all my clothing, wrote dirty stuff all over my body in permanent marker (stuff like FUCK ME, CUMDUMPSTER, I TAKE ALL LOADS, FAGGOT, and FUCKHOLE) and used me all night, fucking my pussy, fucking my mouth, pissing on me a few times, spitting in my face repeatedly and telling me what a "disgusting faggot" I am. he was actually the first man to call me Aidsbait. plus he offered my body to every single guy that came in and asked each one of them to piss in my mouth and all over my face. then in the morning as it started getting light out he gave me back my shoes, took me outside to the alley (still naked behind the porntheatre and fucked me till a homeless guy came along and he got the homeless man to fuck his load into me and then piss on me, then he asked the homeless man that just fucked me where a couple of their buddies were and apparently they were at a park a few blocks away. so he gave me my underwear and we walked through downtown on main streets to get there. he stopped 3 times on the way so I could get down on my knees and suck his cock right at the side of the street, including once at a stoplight where he told me “get on your knees and suck my cock till the light changes” and when I was sucking him he said “pull out your cock and jerk off when you suck me” so I did and a few cars drove by. one honked lol. then we got to the park and his 2 homeless buddies were there and he said “look what I brought you guys to fuck” got me to give him back my underwear and they all fucked a load into me right there on a bench in the park. a woman came in and watched them fuck me and a few people in the apartment overlooking the park watched. they finished by pissing on me while I jerked off and came(the woman wanted to see me cum). the next time I saw him in the porntheatre I asked him how he knew so many homeless guys and he told me it was cause he was homeless and him and his buddies have an agreement to “share any easy fucks”. he also told me he was straight but as a homeless guy its hard to find chicks willing to take his load “so I fuck faggots just to get my nut” he ended up fucking me regularly for awhile and would always whore me out to whoever came in cause he knew I would let anyone fuck me bareback. he told me he used to have a slut like me who would let anyone he wants fuck him but he was picky about who barebacked him. I still remember him saying “l know you dont give a fuck who blows their load in you” and he literally used me for a toilet every time he fucked me. he actually said he pissed on me “cause nobody with any self-respect would let me” and “to remind you that I dont care about you. you’re just some gross faggot that lets me breed it” he started calling his homeless buddies to the porntheatre to fuck me and they would either fuck me in a booth, one or two at a time, or I would pay their entrance fee so they could fuck me and piss on me in the theatre. there was also the straight guy who fucked me in a public restroom a few times who would always use my mouth for an ashtray and make me lick his piss off the floor. or the man in the porntheatre who would collect used condoms and empty them in my ass and make me lick cum off the floor and the sole of his shoe or just lick his boots while random men fucked me dogystyle on the floor or the seats. Problem is I’m such trash, this is all vanilla for me. funny thing is now that I think of it, I’m such a dirty faggot trashy femboy whore and cumdumpster that nothing is actually degrading to me. its just using me as I was intended to be used. like trash. 1
Moderators drscorpio Posted November 13, 2022 Moderators Report Posted November 13, 2022 Back when Craigslist was still a thing, I had put up an ad looking for tops one night when my husband was travelling for business. I didn't get any bites, but the next morning when I woke up there was a response from a guy who said he had to be on the road but if I responded before 6:00, he would give me a load. I dropped him a line. He responded with "address?" I sent it, and within 10 minutes, he was knocking on the door. He followed me to the bedroom. He pushed me down bent over the side of the bed and pulled my pajama pants down. He dropped his pants, grabbed the lube, squirted some on my hole, and slid inside. He was a respectable size but not huge; it was easy enough for me to take. He pumped for a few minutes and shot inside me. As he was getting dressed, I told him to hit me up anytime he was in town. He laughed. "Bitch, I won't ever think about you again after I walk out the door." Then he left. 2 1
hntnhole Posted November 13, 2022 Report Posted November 13, 2022 15 hours ago, tallslenderguy said: my personal desire/need for degradation I know what 'degradation' means, but I looked up a number of definitions anyway. "the process in which the beauty or quality of something is destroyed or spoiled" This was one of the least violent definitions I found in several dictionaries. Are you able to substitute this word (destroyed) with something less destructive? Degradation has a flavor of violence, force, Power for Power's sake to it. It seems to leave little room for the magnificence that can happen between a Dominant and a submissive. I know how to Dominate men - I've been doing it for many years. But I never 'destroy or spoil' them. Rather, I uphold and honor their sexual requirements/lusts, fulfill them, enable them, complete them, revel in them. There are myriad ways/sexually perverse acts that men so inclined can, should and must indulge in, sharing the Connection through acts like you describe, and make possible. Virtually any agreed-upon sexual act between men can be uplifting, mind-blowing for both men. Even over the ether, I know you, I uphold you, honor you, and every single quality that makes you who you are. Even if we actually met one day, I could never allow you to be harmed, injured, let alone degraded or spoiled (in the actual definition). "Used", definitely, and in the most respectful ways. Destroyed or spoiled? Never. 1
tallslenderguy Posted November 13, 2022 Report Posted November 13, 2022 "Most degrading thing "straight" guy has done to you?" my original answer wasn't really a good one for the actual question. Taken on it's own, as a simple question, for me the most degrading thing a straight guy has done to me is reject or treat me as less than because i'm gay. Rationally, i think he degrades himself more than me in that attitude/act, but emotionally, i can be devastated even by a casual acquaintance who does that. i don't think any guy ('straight' or otherwise) who ends up using me sexually qualifies as "rejecting" me. Nothings says "i need/want you" like putting your cock and seed in a person. i believe a lot of the guys who feel the need to be mean about the connection are transferring their lack of self esteem onto the guy they are using and the person they are rejecting is their self. Referring back to my original response, i have been with Men who have the need/desire to "degrade," but have an honest and affectionate acceptance of who and how They are, as well as an honest and affectionate acceptance of who and how Their recipient is. i've come to believe that the feelings of degradation and humiliation that both are experiencing are deeply embedded culturally conditioned emotions. That there's a sort of dissonance that can be experienced where need/desire is affirmed and fulfilled, even though it evokes conditioned emotions at the same time. i suspect it's not the actual degradation or humiliation that is so powerfully erotic and pleasurable, but the deep acceptance, lust and need that is being expressed for who we are, despite the conditioning against those things.
hntnhole Posted November 13, 2022 Report Posted November 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, tallslenderguy said: Rationally, i think he degrades himself more than me in that attitude/act, Obviously true. It's pitiful, but it's all too commonplace. 16 minutes ago, tallslenderguy said: i suspect it's not the actual degradation or humiliation that is so powerfully erotic and pleasurable, but the deep acceptance, lust and need that is being expressed for who we are, despite the conditioning against those things. OK. I'll buy that. It's how the acts are conducted that's important, not the verbalizing (or would that be writingizing?). Well, how about communicating then .....
tallslenderguy Posted November 13, 2022 Report Posted November 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, hntnhole said: I know what 'degradation' means, but I looked up a number of definitions anyway. "the process in which the beauty or quality of something is destroyed or spoiled" This was one of the least violent definitions I found in several dictionaries. Are you able to substitute this word (destroyed) with something less destructive? Degradation has a flavor of violence, force, Power for Power's sake to it. It seems to leave little room for the magnificence that can happen between a Dominant and a submissive. I know how to Dominate men - I've been doing it for many years. But I never 'destroy or spoil' them. Rather, I uphold and honor their sexual requirements/lusts, fulfill them, enable them, complete them, revel in them. There are myriad ways/sexually perverse acts that men so inclined can, should and must indulge in, sharing the Connection through acts like you describe, and make possible. Virtually any agreed-upon sexual act between men can be uplifting, mind-blowing for both men. Even over the ether, I know you, I uphold you, honor you, and every single quality that makes you who you are. Even if we actually met one day, I could never allow you to be harmed, injured, let alone degraded or spoiled (in the actual definition). "Used", definitely, and in the most respectful ways. Destroyed or spoiled? Never. 4 minutes ago, hntnhole said: Obviously true. It's pitiful, but it's all too commonplace. OK. I'll buy that. It's how the acts are conducted that's important, not the verbalizing (or would that be writingizing?). Well, how about communicating then ..... Our responses crossed in the ether, but i wondered if some of my response might answer Your thoughts. i think you nail it with "Well, how about communicating then...." i think that's the challenge because what we are trying to communicate doesn't have words or common context that's specially equipped to convey those wants/needs on either side of the slash. Add to that, that for many, i don't think this leaves the emotions and travels up to the frontal lobe where it's been given much thought or rationale... which seems necessary to me if we're going to try to communicate this stuff with words. Here's an example for context that uses "destroyed" as a descriptor: A Top tells me He wants to "destroy" or "wreck" my hole. i don't think most tops or Tops literally want to destroy/wreck the bottoms hole. i think the sexual spectrum comes into play, and their are some tops that literally want to destroy/wreck the thing they desire/need/crave, that if they can destroy the object of their desire/need, they can remove the opportunity for expression. i think most tops (or bottoms) who use those terms fall into a sort of in between place and "destroyed/wrecked" doesn't literally mean either. i stumble over those words whenever a top uses them with me and i have not heard the tone or attitude he has when using them. There are more neutral words that some use "stretch, open, ______," but are less... passionate, lol. And i think 'passion' is the crux of it. That the drive or our needs/wants (Top or bottom) are primal. As i see it, one attribute of a "Top" is He is hard wired to create and a bottom is hired wired to be the clay the Top uses to mold and create. i see the desire/need for a "wrecked/destroyed" hole as a expression of impregnation, creation, effecting, marking, connecting. i think those are some of the drivers and needs being fulfilled, but the heteronormative terms and situations we grew up with don't quite fit, so we have to come up with new and different ways to communicate our different needs/wants, which is further complicated by the emotional conditioning we have against those things, so our terms often end up being paradoxical. Also, our experiences, depending on the individuals involved.
ErosWired Posted November 14, 2022 Report Posted November 14, 2022 I keep thinking about the phrase “most degrading” and how one decides what fits that bill. It’s a very subjective measure obviously, both from the perspective of how many different acts of degradation a person has endured, but also from the perspective on what he, or the Top, considers degrading in the first place. A straight Top, for instance, may consider any act of male-on-male penetration degrading, because in his mind, no self-respecting dude would ever allow that. He might consider taking a load even more deeply degrading because the dude actually ended up with the dude’s spunk in him In his mind, that un-mans a guy. Cunts him. Makes him a bitch. You can’t undo that. The bottom he fucks may not have a lot of experience, may have done nothing but straight-up vanilla sex. But given that straight Top’s perspective, it would be entirely valid for the bottom to answer the OP’s question with “He fucked me.” And feel just as degraded as a bottom more used to abuse who reported being used as a urinal, simply because the Top believed he was degrading him.
OzzieCumdumpster Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 Most degrading thing I had done was a guy used me like a whore, don't get me wrong I love being used as a whore. But after he deposited his seed in me,he pulled out, got dressed, and left a dollar and said I was only worth a dollar. 1 1
ErosWired Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 2 hours ago, OzzieCumdumpster said: Most degrading thing I had done was a guy used me like a whore, don't get me wrong I love being used as a whore. But after he deposited his seed in me,he pulled out, got dressed, and left a dollar and said I was only worth a dollar. On the plus side, he didn’t leave a quarter… But see, this is a great example of what I mean about degrading being a subjective measure. For you, it was degrading that he left a mere dollar for your worth. But no one in 1,000+ fucks has ever given me anything more that a slap on the ass, so if someone were to leave me a dollar it would be a huge compliment. Degrading would be pulling out and saying “You’re not worth dumping in.” 1
YourNoLimitsBottom Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 Not sure if it is really counts as being degraded, but I tend to stay away from "straight" men, because they would tend to treat me like the woman they couldn't get at the moment. Early on I was just happy to get cock, but as time went on I learned to appreciate gay men who were into fucking me as a man. Today as long as my clothes are on I can control my inner slut and I am more discerning, looking for preferably gay or the occasional bi man. Once the clothes come off, well, the judgement gets a bit fuzzy...
Aidsbait Posted November 18, 2022 Report Posted November 18, 2022 On 11/15/2022 at 10:28 AM, YourNoLimitsBottom said: Not sure if it is really counts as being degraded, but I tend to stay away from "straight" men, because they would tend to treat me like the woman they couldn't get at the moment. Early on I was just happy to get cock, but as time went on I learned to appreciate gay men who were into fucking me as a man. Today as long as my clothes are on I can control my inner slut and I am more discerning, looking for preferably gay or the occasional bi man. Once the clothes come off, well, the judgement gets a bit fuzzy... thats one of the reasons I have always loved being used by straight men. they dont treat me like a man at all and rarely as a boy. they just treat me like a really cheap, easy, slutty girl. there’s no pretending they wanna date me and I know some of them aren’t attracted to me at all. they are just using my mouth or my pussy as a substitute for a girl when they can’t get one or dont wanna bother with the effort. plus they use me when they wanna treat a fuck like trash and tell it that its trash. and bonus for them as a femboy and a t-girl I’m the closest thing to one. 1
PendragonSpirit Posted December 2, 2022 Report Posted December 2, 2022 Probably when one of my closest straight friends whored me out to his dealer for drugs. Or would it be pimped me out? I'm not sure on the vernacular. Either way, we were introduced when I was visiting him and he told me he'd invited his dealer over. Once the guy walked in, my friend told me "Alright, he's going to fuck you while I watch." Not a question. Not even an order. Just a statement of fact like "Water is wet." Happened a few times, actually. 1 1 2
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