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3 hours ago, hntnhole said:

Yeah - when what they meant was "masculine" - as though masculinity and being gay were like oil and water to many folks.  I've fucked some really Butch Holes, and they're a lot of fun.  But it all comes down to either a guy will fuck / get fucked by another guy or he won't.  "Straight appearing" means nothing, in that context. 

I don't go over to the beach's all that much, but any straight guy that can't get pussy (I mean women) over there just isn't trying ... there are tons of female tarts on the prowl.  

Good to know there is a legion of people with pussies (PC enough???) who are as "up for sex" as I am.  As time has gone on I really lost interest in vaginas.  Although honestly in the right situation I might.  Since I seroconverted to poz I've been reticent to play.  I imagine that'll change; perhaps if my VL continues to drop to even lower numbers; or if I start meds.  

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1 hour ago, PozBearWI said:

Good to know there is a legion of people with pussies (PC enough???) who are as "up for sex" as I am.  As time has gone on I really lost interest in vaginas.  Although honestly in the right situation I might.  Since I seroconverted to poz I've been reticent to play.  I imagine that'll change; perhaps if my VL continues to drop to even lower numbers; or if I start meds.  

I can go 100% straight for a session with a woman, as long as her boyfriend/husband doesn't join us and offer me sex with him too. 

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To me, it does seem plausible he might be straight while still fucking a man. It's not that simple: there are sexual identities (gay, straight, bi, pan, etc), sexual behaviours (fucking, sucking, everything else!), and sexual preferences (into men, into women, into cis, into trans, into NB, and many more), and they do not necessarily all line up, even among "straight" identifying men.

Here in the UK, there's a common joke among straight men that "any hole's a goal", and I have used that to my advantage on a number of occasions. Also among laddish guys, if you happen to crouch down in front of them (say, to tie your laces or whatever), you'll occasionally get a "while you're down there, mate" as they all laugh. I have gotten lucky once or twice here too, when I've said words to the effect of "ok then|", suggested my skills in that area, and steered the resulting confusion towards an outcome I'm hoping for.

I used to have a regular straight guy who'd host, bend me over, and literally put his phone on my back watching straight porn while he was fucking me. He just needed a hole to cum in, and I was happy to be that hole. 

Another straight guy who'd insist on me wearing a jock to cover up my cock while he was fucking me on my back (once or twice made me wear panties), calling me 'baby girl' the whole time. I acted the part for him, because of course I fucking did.

It's really not that simple, and in truth never has been, from place to place, culture to culture, man to man. There are always complexities...

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One of my best mates identifies as 100% straight. I once asked if he’d ever had sex with a guy and he answered “‘Course I have.” His look suggested I was mad for even asking. 
 

 

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10 minutes ago, jd13 said:

To me, it does seem plausible he might be straight while still fucking a man. It's not that simple: there are sexual identities (gay, straight, bi, pan, etc), sexual behaviours (fucking, sucking, everything else!), and sexual preferences (into men, into women, into cis, into trans, into NB, and many more), and they do not necessarily all line up, even among "straight" identifying men.

Here in the UK, there's a common joke among straight men that "any hole's a goal", and I have used that to my advantage on a number of occasions. Also among laddish guys, if you happen to crouch down in front of them (say, to tie your laces or whatever), you'll occasionally get a "while you're down there, mate" as they all laugh. I have gotten lucky once or twice here too, when I've said words to the effect of "ok then|", suggested my skills in that area, and steered the resulting confusion towards an outcome I'm hoping for.

I used to have a regular straight guy who'd host, bend me over, and literally put his phone on my back watching straight porn while he was fucking me. He just needed a hole to cum in, and I was happy to be that hole. 

Another straight guy who'd insist on me wearing a jock to cover up my cock while he was fucking me on my back (once or twice made me wear panties), calling me 'baby girl' the whole time. I acted the part for him, because of course I fucking did.

It's really not that simple, and in truth never has been, from place to place, culture to culture, man to man. There are always complexities...

“Any hole’s a goal” is very common - at least in the UK.

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On 4/18/2024 at 11:00 AM, Bottom Jim said:

I met a guy on sniffles several weeks ago . He claimed he was 100% straight. Then he asked to come over 

When he arrived he gave me a deep tongue kiss while feeling my ass. He proceeded to pull down my pants as he pulled down his. In no time he had his bare dick in my ass fucking me hard He then shot his load deep in me.

He then went on to say he was 100% straight 
He is a little in self denial Any comments 

It's certainly a little confusing. There are men who have sex with men who don't identify as gay, bi or pansexual. Even as I type that I'm not sure quite what that means - I have a hard time wrapping my head around it. Sexual expression is far more varied than our current rather puritanical culture allows, I suppose.

All that said, people identify how they identify. If you can get together and have fun, who really cares how he identifies.  So long as you're both consenting and no one is getting hurt I don't see that there's a problem.  I personally wouldn't plan on having a lasting, committed relationship with someone like that, but I really don't do "couple"; I prefer friends with benefits.

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On 4/18/2024 at 1:03 PM, topblkmale said:

MSM is the term used now. I see this behavior more in non-western cultures.

 

Agreed, it's all a meaningless label.  My best friend in HS swore he was straight.  We played around a couple times and I rarely have gotten a guy off as quickly.  And it's happened dozens of times with other guys since.  Where they sometimes draw their line is "Well, you got me off.  I didn't make you cum."  So I always insist that they give me a hand job (at least) so they can't justify their "straightness" quite as easily; they made another guy cum.  How straight is that?    

I love swallowing real fathers.  Not "dads" but men who have actually gotten someone pregnant.   Just knowing I'm taking live sperm gets me hot.  I used to have a FB who was divorced.  I'd go to his place and there were pics of the family all over.  Just knowing that he was giving me the same sperm that made the kids in the those pictures got me incredibly turned on.  I do hesitate to tell guys that fetish because they usually think I'm creeping on their kids (I'm not!)  Doing a father and son is another, yet unrealized, fantasy but the son would need to be legal.

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No guy is 100% straight.  If they are truthful, at some time in their life, if it were high school, or college, or before or after they were married, they had some kind of contact with another man.  At least in the year 2025.

Now I know some members will say "well my grandfather grew up in Poland and he never had a guy suck his dick".  Well okay, maybe he didn't.  It was a different time, but I am still in the opinion that in today's world, most men have had at least some interaction with another man.

Okay BZ members, opinions?

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20 minutes ago, ellentonboy said:

No guy is 100% straight.  If they are truthful, at some time in their life, if it were high school, or college, or before or after they were married, they had some kind of contact with another man.  At least in the year 2025.

Now I know some members will say "well my grandfather grew up in Poland and he never had a guy suck his dick".  Well okay, maybe he didn't.  It was a different time, but I am still in the opinion that in today's world, most men have had at least some interaction with another man.

Okay BZ members, opinions?

the OP poster imho described an encounter that sounded 100% str8 to me. he barely said hello b4 taking charge and being the agressor b4 quickly shoving his dick in w little to no foreplay. what, was he suppose to ask you how your day was? what are you gay? 😜

to answer your question: the guy was on sniffies! all he meant imho is that he lives the public life of a 100%str8 guy. he's not going to gay bars or pride parades or taylor swift concerts unless his girl drags him along. he fucked a slit nsa. that's all we know. what else makes him "gay"? is he now sending the OP love letters? do str8 guys hate anal? is it "gay" to shove your tongue down someone's throat to show dominance and get the party started? 

i let str8 guys fuck me all the time. i get what i want and have no desire to be courted by them. nor am i going to be blowing up their phone or screaming "heeeeyyy bitch!" at them from across a crowded restaurant if i see them in public. at the end of the day this guy is just saying "don't blow my cover. it's just sex. that's all. to me, the gay part comes in w the feels. i loved my ex husband dearly. i was so fucking gay for him 😜

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3 minutes ago, norefusal said:

the OP poster imho described an encounter that sounded 100% str8 to me. he barely said hello b4 taking charge and being the agressor b4 quickly shoving his dick in w little to no foreplay. what, was he suppose to ask you how your day was? what are you gay? 😜

to answer your question: the guy was on sniffies! all he meant imho is that he lives the public life of a 100%str8 guy. he's not going to gay bars or pride parades or taylor swift concerts unless his girl drags him along. he fucked a slit nsa. that's all we know. what else makes him "gay"? is he now sending the OP love letters? do str8 guys hate anal? is it "gay" to shove your tongue down someone's throat to show dominance and get the party started? 

i let str8 guys fuck me all the time. i get what i want and have no desire to be courted by them. nor am i going to be blowing up their phone or screaming "heeeeyyy bitch!" at them from across a crowded restaurant if i see them in public. at the end of the day this guy is just saying "don't blow my cover. it's just sex. that's all. to me, the gay part comes in w the feels. i loved my ex husband dearly. i was so fucking gay for him 😜

I have sex with more guys who identify as being straight then do as gay.  I am like you, I just take it as it comes, and I don't ask questions.  I've been told "don't speak to me in public", or "don't text me my wife of girlfriend will ask who you are".  In other words, don't contact me, I'll call you.  That's the way they want it, and I am interested in the sexual part of the scenario, not interested in having any other kind of interaction with them.

But are they straight?  I don't think so, at least not 100%.  If a guy is sticking his dick into another man, if he's kissing them or letting them suck his dick, he is not 100% straight.  They can go home to the wives or whoever, but in the end they still come back.  Bisexual at best, even that term makes me wonder if that is a real concept.  I would say the majority are just in denial.  I don't care frankly, I'm not interested in them in any way other than sexual.  I don't debate their sexuality with them, I just do what comes naturally, and leave it at that.

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20 hours ago, ellentonboy said:

I have sex with more guys who identify as being straight then do as gay.

It's a matter of semantics.  THEY consider themselves straight.  I'd argue if someone was 100% straight, they wouldn't be able to maintain an erection for a guy.  It's a matter of the definition used.

I consider myself gay.  Under the right circumstances, I'd fuck a female but those stars haven't aligned yet.   If they do, one day, I won't consider myself bi because 99% of my interactions have been M2M.  Consider the old Kinsey Scale:  There are relatively few 0s and 6s.  But there are a lot of 1s and 5s that round off 🙂

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