brnbk Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 20 hours ago, partying.hard said: Same. There are a couple of people on BZ whose posts are so esoteric, I just skip over them. To be fair to @fuckholedc he has quoted reputable newspapers like the guardian in defense of his argument, and a semi-reputable website like Vox. 2 hours ago, Infected said: This thread is about Austin Wolf and his now permanent felon record and not the pros and cons ................................ These types of comments or posts have its own section on this site and would be most be appreciated by most everyone if they were directed, posted, and commented there please. Thanks I agree. We should stick to the topic - Austin and his conviction - here. The comments and questions raised by @fuckholedc about the US govt and police in the States, of which I was unaware, are very important and require a new thread. I had initially started this topic in the Porn section coz i never thought the case against Austin was a serious or believable case. I now feel I should have started the discussion in the LGTQ politics/general discussion forum because this is a question of sexual freedoms and the treatment of gay men and the possible dangers that come with the State deciding you need to be targeted. I just am not convinced of any of the charges against Austin. They are too brazen and circumstantial. Edited 7 hours ago by brnbk Quote
partying.hard Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, brnbk said: I just am not convinced of any of the charges against Austin. They are too brazen and circumstantial. Ok … now that’s comical. Quote
Nclchub Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago Not American so can't comment on specific laws but I've seen some people argue that there should be leniency if the underage guys Austin fucked looked legal/lied about their age. Sorry but that just doesn't cut it. I'm not denying that some underage teens lie about their age and experiment when they're young (god knows I was curious). I can also understand leniency when one party is underage and the age gap is small (eg. A 16 year old and a 18 year old or even a 17 year old and a 21 year old). In those cases, while one party is technically underage they are often both in the same peer groups. Thus, if no grooming took place and the older party didn't know their partner was underage (or had reason to believe their partner was legal) then yes, there's room for compassion on a case by case basis. However. if you're in your 30s and intentionally hunting barely legal/underage guys (not guys who look young but actively hunting 18 year olds and younger) that benefit of the doubt disappears. More damningly, we know he had willingly accessed child pornography. That pretty much confirms he was intentionally targeting underage guys. And of course, anyone who willingly keeps child porn on their computer is a monster. In short, fuck him. 2 Quote
blackrobe Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago 50 minutes ago, brnbk said: I just am not convinced of any of the charges against Austin. They are too brazen and circumstantial. Justin Heath Smith broke long-standing Federal laws protecting minors. He admitted his guilt. He's been convicted and is awaiting sentence. Any individual's personal convictions or beliefs about the veracity of the charges are entirely moot. Heath has said on the record that they are true. Game over. Quote
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