str8mature5 Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 2 hours ago, BarebackedBear said: Preface: I firmly believe that in addition to being a rapist, a misogynist, and just overall a disgusting excuse for a human being, Trump's rhetoric and his focus on grievances and his strong man attitude towards ruling rather than governing puts him squarely in the category of fascist. I'm also well aware that he's going into his second presidency immensely better prepared than he was for the first, after years of being groomed for this by a cabal of conservative interests with their own agenda. That being said, I feel like there's a little bit of catastrophizing on the left in light of the news. I think in the short term his economic policy is going to be a cheap sugar rush for the economy which is definitely going to have long-term knock-on effects. With a power shift in the Senate, any nomination he wants to make will get pushed through. Yes, it's bad. But until he starts to make good on these threats I'm stopping short of calling this an existential threat to democracy. try toHe not only won, it looks like he actually crushed the popular vote unlike the last time he managed to game the electoral college. I still think we have enough rational, sane people in this coun hopefully keep the worst of the damage in check over the next four years. I have to believe that at this point. I hope your right with the 3 lines of your response that we have enough sane people to keep things in check. 2
hntnhole Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 I think a lot of this tragedy can be laid at our national, original sin - namely, racism, with the accompanying slavery-issue, along with a healthy dose of misogyny. There are a lot of pinheads out there that think they deserve everything, merely because they were born Caucasian American. Not only is Harris a woman, but her blood isn't completely Caucasian. I actually thought we'd come a bit further than we apparently have. 1 2 1
PozBearWI Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 So are we going to join the orange clown and whine? Or are we going to continue? 1
hntnhole Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 3 hours ago, str8mature5 said: I hope your right with the 3 lines of your response that we have enough sane people to keep things in check We don't. The Vandals are at the door, and as of a/o Jan 20, they'll be waltzing right through the door. The shit has hit the fan, and it'll get blown on all of us.
hntnhole Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 3 minutes ago, PozBearWI said: So are we going to join the orange clown and whine? Or are we going to continue? HELL NO
hntnhole Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 We continue to resist. We continue to stand up for what's good and decent and right with our nation. Every smallish gesture counts. We never surrender, we never give up. 1 1
PozBearWI Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 OK, Trump won. Truly sad that the majority didn’t see through his orange veneer. The man whined himself into the White House and the majority bought it. Kudos to him for being an effective snake oil sales man. He isn’t the first and he won’t be the last. We can of course just choose to give up and take it. And to some extent we’ve little choice on the taking it part. Bad stuff is going to happen. What specifically? Honest we won’t know until we know. We’re aware a host of unhappy outcomes will occur. But do we now just give up and say fuck it? I hope not.... It is about time for the economy to shift as it has been on an upward trajectory for a long time, starting with the Obama years. The expected recession hasn’t happened. Yet. Putting anti vaxxers in charge of healthcare is going to lead to a predictable problem. One that might make the last pandemic appear weak and rivaling the Black Plague in scope. How will the MAGA faithful respond to that? If the economy tanks for the majority, as I think it will, all this is going to change “bigly”. And rapidly. The MAGA faithful are a violent bunch and once they realize how they just screwed themselves. The results of that will be, um, interesting. If the orange jesus follows through on his threats and we see comics and politicians thrown in prison, will we cheer him on or rebel? If Health coverage is suddenly gone for most, how long will the survivors take it before they rebel? Locally there have been a shit ton of signs reading “Don’t stop Praying”. In my head I always append “on your neighbor” to those signs when I read them. But that shit only goes so far before we have open rebellion, which might be in our future. We are entering and “interesting” era…. 2 1
NEDenver Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 28 minutes ago, PozBearWI said: OK, Trump won. Truly sad that the majority didn’t see through his orange veneer. The man whined himself into the White House and the majority bought it. Kudos to him for being an effective snake oil sales man. He isn’t the first and he won’t be the last. We can of course just choose to give up and take it. And to some extent we’ve little choice on the taking it part. Bad stuff is going to happen. What specifically? Honest we won’t know until we know. We’re aware a host of unhappy outcomes will occur. But do we now just give up and say fuck it? I hope not.... It is about time for the economy to shift as it has been on an upward trajectory for a long time, starting with the Obama years. The expected recession hasn’t happened. Yet. Putting anti vaxxers in charge of healthcare is going to lead to a predictable problem. One that might make the last pandemic appear weak and rivaling the Black Plague in scope. How will the MAGA faithful respond to that? If the economy tanks for the majority, as I think it will, all this is going to change “bigly”. And rapidly. The MAGA faithful are a violent bunch and once they realize how they just screwed themselves. The results of that will be, um, interesting. If the orange jesus follows through on his threats and we see comics and politicians thrown in prison, will we cheer him on or rebel? If Health coverage is suddenly gone for most, how long will the survivors take it before they rebel? Locally there have been a shit ton of signs reading “Don’t stop Praying”. In my head I always append “on your neighbor” to those signs when I read them. But that shit only goes so far before we have open rebellion, which might be in our future. We are entering and “interesting” era…. I’m not protesting in the streets. That freedom we know is lost. We had our chance to save the fools and they insisted on not being saved. I’m moving to solidifying the escape plans. I expect we’ll lose marriage federally in the first couple months, but they’ll probably be tied up with deporting millions of people for the first year or two. Probably have that long before we’re all codified as felons. Maybe faster if SCOTUS hears anything that lets them overturn Lawrence. But in a couple years, I’m thinking Mexico or Costa Rica look nice. 1 1
tallslenderguy Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 i've no plans for a Y2K farm, but i'm probably gonna keep my rifle. i think we'll all have areas of enlightenment in the next four years.
ktopper Posted November 6 Author Report Posted November 6 43 minutes ago, tallslenderguy said: i've no plans for a Y2K farm, but i'm probably gonna keep my rifle. i think we'll all have areas of enlightenment in the next four years. I would recommend also getting a handgun of a popular caliber and a good pump action shotgun. One never knows and it is better to be prepared. It seems quite likely that firearms will be banned for all except MAGA republicans. 1
ktopper Posted November 6 Author Report Posted November 6 (edited) Last night around 11;00 PM when it became obvious that Trump was probably going to win I became so upset that I broke out a bottle of Cognac and poured a shot to help me deal with it all. An hour or so later they had called another couple of states for Trump and I was so upset that I poured a double in an attempt to drown my sorrow. My neighbor called this morning and he is also rather upset. He is going to come over later with another friend and a bottle of good port and we will hang out in my shop/mancave and smoke some Davidoffs that I have been aging in a humidor. Knowing us and how depressed we all are over this election we will probably have to get into that Cognac again at some point in order to unburden ourselves from what could have been. Trying times, it is. Edited November 6 by ktopper 1
Infected Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 This chicken little screaming as if your head was cut off is way too much. The sun will rise in the east tomorrow and we will all be here to live another day. Just relax and enjoy life no matter who the President is in the White House. 2 5
PozTalkAuthor Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 12 minutes ago, Infected said: This chicken little screaming as if your head was cut off is way too much. The sun will rise in the east tomorrow and we will all be here to live another day. Just relax and enjoy life no matter who the President is in the White House. Yeah, we must live and be strong ALL TOGETHER - at least we shouldn't get angry to each other. True, life goes on, then it depends if president makes rigid laws against us somehow... Only time will tell at this point! Can I say, this is the mechanism of hybrid conflict: create fear, uncertainty, doubt, enemies. And powerful folks have us in their hands. Guaranteed. 2
topblkmale Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 13 hours ago, ktopper said: It appears we have a new President Elect barring some major election fortification, which possibility I do not discount. Based on legacy media predictions we can expect the following: Concentration camps where non-MAGA types will be locked up. LGBTQs will be shot on sight. Democracy will end. Women will be fired from their jobs, publicly whipped, and put back in the kitchen. All abortions will be criminalized, despite the fact that it benefits men as much as women. Millions, probably half of America, will be deported. Buckle up guys, it's fixing to get exciting. 12 hours ago, alphatop32 said: Project 2025 will not only fix all McDonald's ice cream machines AND bring back the McRib...it will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! Get ready for it! Slavery will be brought back. For the record, I'm a big-dicked field nigga. 1 2
foryouruse Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 Damn, I drank wine, I would have actually felt better if I had TopBlkMale on top of me. 1
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