Tops: what gives you what you crave

[hntnhole]

All I really want, is a guy that loves hard, raw Cock up his gut.  Loves it more than almost anything else, needs it more than almost anything else, and not only is unashamed of it, but will gladly tell any man who asks him. 

Cumdumps are my hero's.  

[NWUSHorny]

Pigs that know they want poles up their holes and freely and openly offer themselves for fucking are the bottoms that get my loads. I'm all about the sex act, and can take or leave (mostly prefer to leave) the rest of it.

[meetme]

Past a certain age, I think role play is a chore. Certainly if you with someone you don’t know because we gay men don’t have to liven up sex with the same person in the 29th year of knowing them.  And now that I am older, it doesn’t mean I’m the dominant one out to corrupt you, yawn.  Anyone in the early twink age range knows more about social drug play than I do. You’re allowed to get old because you have been careful in your random contacts, not because you’ve been reckless.  Make a not of this, the absolute last thing I want to hear is anyone calling me daddy.  I’m not your father, I’m not your grandfather, I am glad that you’re interested but since we are strangers, can’t we just focus on discovering who we each are and not go for squeezing into some porn novel characters.

[hungry_hole]

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Tops: what gives you what you crave

When I started bottoming bareback and taking anon loads in the 90's I was giving guys what they craved: a raw hole.

I had fuck-buddies that lasted years which told me that I was giving tops what they wanted. I would usually meet them at the sauna and then they would drop by my place when horny and in need of breeding a hole.

[chipygmalion80]

On 1/24/2025 at 6:34 PM, yoursinmine said:

If you like the feeling of ownership, domination, satisfaction, closeness, humiliation, etc--what act maximizes that feeling for you? 

My cock gets rock hard knowing the btm is a cumdump.

I like to hear that the previous fucker just left, and I'm next in line.  Freshly fucked hole feels great, and knowing that my cock will mix with his cum in your hole.

Another kink that gets me hard is to totally use the cumdump. 

I'm not dom so typical subs don't do it for me.  Being told to cuff you, spit on your face, choke you, punch your ass/chest, blah blah blah -- suggestions or demands or "likes" from a sub turn me off.  I don't get into all this high maintenance expectation of the btm worshipping me, or me barking orders at him all the time, ...

I "use" my btm by whatever I want -- tweaking his nips, grabbing his balls or cock, swapping between kissing him hard and shoving my cock back down his throat, etc.  Does that count as "dom"??  Maybe I will choke the btm some while fucking his sloppy hole ... but I go with the flow. 

I just hate the "I want to be choked, etc" demands because it seems forced.  ... usually my filthy mouth and nasty hands get kinkier if the btm just has no expectations from me and lets me use him how I want. 

[blackrobe]

9 minutes ago, chipygmalion80 said:

I'm not dom so typical subs don't do it for me.  Being told to cuff you, spit on your face, choke you, punch your ass/chest, blah blah blah -- suggestions or demands or "likes" from a sub turn me off.  I don't get into all this high maintenance expectation of the btm worshipping me, or me barking orders at him all the time, ...

What you're describing here is not a "typical sub" in my experience, it's a bossy BDSM bottom (not at all submissive) who has confused what he wants with actual power exchange. Nor is the performative domination you describe what actual power exchange usually looks like. These bottoms are either ignorant, manipulative, or fundamentally misunderstand what submission is.

A typical submissive bottom is there for whatever experience the top requires. Good alignment in interests can make the experience better for both, but it's not usually what drives a submissive bottom. They want to please the top as the first order goal. 

Wilde was right, "Everything in the world is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power." Meaning there are power dynamics at play in all sex. What you describe as using a bottom definitely has elements of your control and your desires being met your way. Lots of bottoms who don't identify as submissive will *love* that energy from a top. How you deliver that use determines whether it's read as demanding, selfish, piggy, dominant, etc. 

You can be a cumdump without being submissive and vice versa, but plenty of bottoms become cumdumps because of their submissive journey.

[hntnhole]

It seems there are some assumptions afoot that should be addressed.

1.  A "bottom" - used as a descriptor - indicates one thing, and one thing only:  he likes to get fucked.  

    There are any number of permutations, however.  Is he a "BdSm" bottom, and thus willing and able to enter into a negotiation regarding the Top's needs as well as his own?  Is he a        "Leatherboy" bottom?  Is he a cumdump bottom?  A bossy mouthy bottom?  A quiet, speechless bottom?  The permutations can be not quite endless, but seem so.  

2.  Just because a guy prefers/most needs to bottom, that fact in no way assumes he's anything close to either of the above examples.  Maybe he's just a regular guy that loves a hard,        raw Cock breeding is Hole.  Maybe he'd prefer 20, maybe only 1.  

This is why, when anything more spicy than a fuck is in play, a "negotiation"* needs to take place, before the action begins.  That will obviate any misunderstandings, clear up any mistaken (false) assumptions, and each guy will get a better fuck out of it.  For Whatever's sake - don't merely assume, talk to the guy.  Tell the guy what your preferred parameters are.  This wouldn't be necessary in the case of a cumdump taking load after load - it's already clear what he's interested in.  

 

*that word - "negotiation" may imply something to some guys that it's simply not.  It's only when one man (Dom) is planning to "take" a boy as his own, care for him, deepen his sexual Lusts, abilities, care for his welfare, in short, "adopt" the boy in a non-legal arrangement that an extensive negotiation simply must take place.   A pre-fuck (i.e. in some fuckjoint) negotiation can be as brief as a few words, just enough to make clear what's desired and what isn't. 

Example:  (bottom)  "I need Cocks pumping their loads up my Hole, and that's about it".  Or "I need to be disciplined" or "I definitely need to be respected as your equal", or whatever is appropriate.  I realize that in the heat of a roomful of breeding men, that kind of laying out boundaries may not be needed,  That said, when there aren't a roomful of men, maybe it should be exercised.  Guys can get injured at worse, and disappointed at best when there's no communication prior, and there's no reason that should happen.  

[PozBearWI]

23 hours ago, meetme said:

Past a certain age, I think role play is a chore. Certainly if you with someone you don’t know because we gay men don’t have to liven up sex with the same person in the 29th year of knowing them.  And now that I am older, it doesn’t mean I’m the dominant one out to corrupt you, yawn.  Anyone in the early twink age range knows more about social drug play than I do. You’re allowed to get old because you have been careful in your random contacts, not because you’ve been reckless.  Make a not of this, the absolute last thing I want to hear is anyone calling me daddy.  I’m not your father, I’m not your grandfather, I am glad that you’re interested but since we are strangers, can’t we just focus on discovering who we each are and not go for squeezing into some porn novel characters.

Oh fuck yes....  Being called "daddy" to distraction is what makes us into curmudgeons!  

To the degree we've been able to be mutually present; not somewhere in our fantasy head, but live and in person, candid, authentic.  Those have been attributes around the times of greatest pleasure for me.

[ffabbian]

On 1/28/2025 at 2:22 PM, Bokkierob said:

I fucking love when my bottom performs only for my pleasure. Like my Boy, Drew, he hates eating arse but will eat my hole on command. I’ll text him on my way home after work when I’m hot and sweaty to tell him to get ready to eat me out before I seed him. Like the obedient Boy he is he’ll be waiting naked for me in my bedroom. he will undress me and I will lie on the bed on my belly with my legs spread. Even though he hates eating my sweaty arse he will bury his face in my sweaty crack and eat me out from my ballsack to my hole. He knows I expect him to force his tongue deep inside my so he does that and won’t stop until I tell him I’m ready to fuck and seed his hole. 

I would love to eat your hairy sweaty ass. You would have to make me work harder to deserve getting fucked