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The way this is phrased is wild. It's essentially asking if you will rape someone. I think some guys fantasize rape and confuse it with forced play or being taken. I mean I wouldn't put it past some guys to actually really want to get forced and not able to say no but I don't think they distinguish the difference that if it's in any kind of controlled or agreed to situation then it might not necessarily be completely out of their control. Because they are active and willing even if they want to surrender to their freedom and their will to say no or stop. That's fine if that's agreed on. I do like being taken by tops and men but I would not willingly put myself in a situation where I couldn't say no or get away if I needed to. In the past though I've been in very very questionable situations where some scenarios I got in were very borderline or me being able to say no or stop even when I wanted to. I've also had danger sense like situations where when I was younger and in a night club a guy kept harassing me and wouldn't leave me alone. I was 18 so I was super fresh. When the morning came because it was an after hours club he tried to follow me to my car and offered to drive me to my car. I said nope and kept walking and go to my car. I learned a few years later from another top who he is and that he was going to do everything I thought in a not fun way. His friend told me that he does to a large extend capture and tie up boys and use them pretty much against their will and whore them out. He said he didn't associate with him much and the bottoms did not really like him or feel that safe with him. I mean he was giving me creepy vibes at the club and stalking me to my car. And then once at a sex club I was servicing a guy but he was being really cruel aggressive with fucking me and having me suck him in a not fun way. He said he wanted to take me out of the club and to his basement and to tie me up. I was like nope. He tried to aggressively grab me and take me and I told him no and to back off. I also once agreed to let a guy restrain me when I was like maybe 20 who I didn't even know. I had a huge danger sense when he started to tie me up and said no I changed my mind. I did get tied up by someone later in my early 20's but it was after meeting them, talking to them and learning about them and it wasn't initially fully restrained. Later meetings I was. Those were fun and sexy time and situations though that we both agreed on. It's good to listen to your own instincts and feelings when you have them because generally they might be right. I also was in another state at one point and a very sexy guy was talking to me. He said he wanted to take me to his place and have some fun with me. Someone else stepped in and warned me that he takes boys to a place and ties them up with a mattress and drugs them up and uses them and whores them out. He did not deny this when someone told on him in front of me. He told me come on it will be fun and I was like nope. Now these situations I just described may be someone's fantasy but again these types of guys I'm describing the man does not care about the bottom or the guy they are with. They will not care how the bottom feels or thinks and what gets them off. They will take the guy and use them how they see fit and no is not in their vocabulary. Now for the less potentially dangerous situations and more fun and hot situations that have kinda borderlined on that line. Yes I have been taken at bars before and fucked by guys that I said no or stop because I was either done or not feeling it. And I was passed around when I was younger in those situations. Sometimes it was hot sometimes it wasn't. But I also knew I was putting myself in those situations. Also once in another state when meeting a guy I was unfortunately in a sketchy town. He picked me up and took me to his place and said I need to be careful because it's not a safe area. He took me to his place and he fucked me. After I said thank you and I had to get going but he said I'm not going anywhere and he's going to fuck me and use me all night. I told him no and I appreciate the time and have fun but I have to get going. He said that he was being nice to me but if I keep fighting him he will not be nice and I won't like it. He essentially restrained me and fucked and used me all night. I was not really enjoying it because I was kind of fearful. I let natural submission take over and just tried to please him and make him happy but he would not let me leave or say no to him. I just was his captive basically until morning. He said what a good boy I was and he wanted to see me again but the second he took me back and dropped me off I did not contact him again. There have been times I've gone to clubs or bath houses too if a guy tries to forcefully grab me and take me into a room or forcefully tries to fuck me and I am not wanting it or into him I do say no or tell them no thanks but if they are really aggressive I tell them to back the fuck off. It's one thing if I make eye contact and they do and there is a mutual spark and they man handle and take me. That's kinda the difference. And as for the sleeping and getting fucked that's also dicey. I've known a guy that got pozzed that way the guy he was with got him drunk and fucked and bred him at night. He was upset obviously because that's essentially date rape and also that he got pozzed that way. The point is you can put yourself in a situation that you want to be in. You can put yourself in a situation that you might be a little nervous about but might want to expand your options or test your limits. As long as it's agreed on mutual that's fine. And forced consensual fucking can be hot. But anytime a guy is taking you captive and won't let you leave and you want to leave or is fucking you and you either can't take it or don't want to and you seriously mean no or stop and they aren't. Then that is essentially rape. I am well aware that there are guys out there who will say "No stop don't it hurts take out I can't". And they are more wanting to play or pretend that they are getting forced or taken against their will. And that's fine I guess if both parties are into that. I think it's a little dicey though. You never know if a situation that you are in if you force something on someone and they say no can be taken serious and you probably don't want to find out. I like guys who are comfortable with how they want to have sex and how they want to be fucked or get fucked. If I am fucking a guy and they say stop it hurts and take it out then I will stop. I always try to let a guy i'm fucking relax on my cock and take it at their own pace initially because I want them to enjoy it. But it's hotter to me if they say "Fuck me, fuck me harder, fuck my ass, breed me." To me that's hotter then some guy pretending to not want to take it or saying it's too big and to stop and or take it out completely. I would prefer not to play with someone that either isn't enjoying it and it's too much for them or they are pretending not to enjoy it because they want it forced without actually saying they do. Just like when I got fucked recently by a big bear guy who forces his thick cock into my second, third hole? I don't tell him "Stop take it out it's too big it hurts." It does hurt sometimes but I'm not going to pretend that I don't want it. I like the pleasure with the pain sometimes. And I like pushing my own limits. And I know he can tell that it does hurt but that I am wanting to take it deeper and wanting to get fucked the way he wants to fuck me as well. This was a little ranty but I hope my examples and stories and experiences help to distinguish the actual differences between being able to say no and not being able to.

Go for it. You can stop it anytime you want. But you have to take the opportunity first. Go and worship him. Be owned by him. Take yourself to a higher level.

Awesome story, reminds me of my introduction to chem sex when i was young(er). Meth and poppers...mmm.

I piggy's you. I now keep a butt plug with me to keep it in. I love having multiple loads in me so I want to keep it as long as possible.

Heading to Manila the second week of September for work. Staying in Makati. Would be interested in hiring a hot tour guide to show me the naughtier parts of the city. Love parties, groups, etc. Any tips or suggestions appreciated.

I’m 53 and my Boy, Drew is 24. He likes Daddies and I like Boys. We have an open Daddy/Son relationship. I broke him in for the first time when he was 18 and I have fucked him almost every day since then. That’s close to 2000 loads. I can’t get enough of his beautiful hole. he grips my cock perfectly and milks my balls every time. It gives me enormous pleasure watching him being fucked and seeded by other men while waiting my turn to fuck his cum-filled hole. He’s the perfect son and I can see how much he loves my cock when I look into his eyes while I’m pumping my sperm into him.

I remember growing the fuck up. I remember when I figured out that sex was for cumming, not for emotional validation. I remember when it dawned on me that 99% of the worthless people around me were only fucking for emotional validation, NOT gratification, and condoms were proof positive of their weakness. I don’t wear condoms because I have sex for the right reasons. I don’t connect through sex, I DISCONNECT from everyone and everything. I don’t have the millennial FOMO that most people have. I had this AIDS infected former prostitute/guitarist thingamajig hit on me at a truck stop once. I psychologically tortured him into raw material for an ectoplasm-infused guitar pick after he tried to guilt trip me into accepting his lovebombing. He only pretended he wanted me inside him so he could feel special, not because it got him off. To think, he assumed I bareback because it “feels more intimate.” Nope! And because he gave himself AIDS from being a prostitute (and a bihet,) he extra deserved to be broken. I didn’t lay a finger on him but I made sure I got off to his suffering anyway. Made a mess of my pants. No regrets. Two tops can never work. Mercy kill the infected.

I would suppose it was as opposed to "bottom" or "top." Saying I am not either.

I wanna know how it went

It doesn’t lose its utility for me. I could do it indefinitely. PrEP is not an option for me. Costs money, has side effects, isn’t effective enough, don’t trust the official stats, counterindicated for people with some health conditions. Undetectable viral loads mean it can’t be transmitted anyway, hence the testing. Tests don’t lie quite like people. It’s not a commitment to another person but to one’s own convenience and health. I would think that is the opposite of drama. It’s easier and lower effort than going out and convincing people to bareback with you, not being able to demand hard data as proof and relying on trust, luck and a sketchy costly pill to prevent seroconversion. No offense but the way you handle things sounds like a total chore.

Absolutely you are correct on all! Great answer! And I always love the wrist and ankles restraints. Love the feeling of no control.

if he is a genuine undetectable, you should not worry and just enjoy it. i have been playing with an U friend of mine for the last 5 years and i am still neg. At the beginning I was taking prep when we played, but after a year i stopped (bad side effects). We had a chat with his consultant and she mentioned that I should not worry about catching HIV as he had been U and in great health for years.

Of course. You are a cumdump. I am the same. Once I take a load, I want more. It is who I am and who you are. Embrace it!!!

Same here

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The question is silly. The safest fuck you'll get is by poz guys who are on meds and undetectable. Everyone else presents a higher risk. There is no HIV test for "neg" because of the window period.

I agree with j-raw

There are a lot of bottoms who want the same thing like you do. I have tried monogamous FWB type arrangement in the past but they start with a lot of the same commitments of availability but after a few fucks the arrangement loses the charm. People move on. Your thoughts on STI and barebacking are too backwards for today given the advancement in the medical science. Guys with HIV are mostly undetectable and undergo testing every 3 to 6 months. I would trust someone who is undetectable for their negative STI status over someone who claims to be "clean". Besides most negative guys are on Prep and DoxyPep. Doxy is undergoing clinical trial as Prep. Even Guys on Prep are testes every 3 months as a protocol. Any STIs are caught early on and treated according. Prep is such a powerful medicine that there are only a few breakthrough infections and that too for reasons beyond Prep. Yes you can enjoy drama free sex however asking someone to commit to you itself is contradicting the drama free connection you want. This is my personal opinion having tried such an arrangement in the past. I trust only myself and my health status over someone else's word. For me every person that Dicks me is infected and it is my responsibility to take care of my health. That's why I don't classify myself as a cumdump bottom because I control the cock that breaches my body.

Bareback top, tried and failed to learn to enjoy sex with a condom, safe sex is inferior to a fleshlight, fleshlight is still insufficient. Still horny for *real* sex but unwilling to get an STI. The usual options for risk reduction aren’t enough for me. Before I go further—sex is just sex to me, nothing more, not love, not intimacy. I don’t need an emotional connection to provide dick to someone who wants dick. I don’t want relationship bullshit with flowers and dinner and externally validating anyone’s daddy issues. I have, to date, never caught feelings for anyone I’ve fucked. I have reached the conclusion that what I want is sexual exclusivity without emotional attachment, for the sake of disease-free easy barebacking. I would be willing, for a year at a time, to get tested regularly and forgo sex with anyone other than a designated bottom, also to make my dick available to him at a phone call or text at all hours of day or night if he was willing to provide same. (Not asking for now, I have some other medical issues I have to address first) I have tried floating this arrangement on other forums and IRL as a hypothetical to test the waters and received mostly negative responses. Mainly that sexual exclusivity cannot coexist with emotional detachment. Which, I am absolutely certain, is horseshit from stupid little boys who can’t tell the difference between feels and dickfeels yet. I am living proof that it can be done. I’ve had ONS before, stealthed the condom, can’t do that anymore because it’s a crime. I have also lied my way through several unwanted LTRs with men whose very existence pissed me off, for the sake of getting bareback sex from them. LTR and doing lovey boyfriend shit seemed, in the past, to be the only way to snag a neg exclusive bareback bottom for one-man free use. That’s what 99% of people I asked told me (“If you want that, you gotta because nobody wants sexual exclusivity without feelings”). It SUCKED. I hurt people too, by accident not on purpose. I now have a distaste for lies and manipulation and I am unwilling to maintain a charade of care or fondness to maintain access to an ass that doesn’t insist I wear a rubber. If someone else were on the market for an arrangement like this one (no strings sexually exclusive mutual free use barebacking,) would they be likely to find a consenting bottom or would they get more of the same tedious responses as everywhere else?

chapters 5 is fucking hot!!! I loved the tag team and piss play in the shower shot my load during the shower! hopefully we get to read about the orgy! thank you @cumfillthishole

That’s hot!

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