PozToxVersPig

DOUCHING / HOLE PREP! I'd like to be able to always always be flawless, whenever, wherever. Regardless of whatever else is going on, it's exhausting. Even if you have the requisite time to prepare sometimes, the effort in doing so is a huge vibe killer for me. #TRUTH

UGH! I don't understand attending an event of this nature if it's not your jam or your opposed to it fundamentally. I still have PTSD from a Cumunion I dunno 8 years ago, and I was hanging with a group of guys that weekend, we arrived on time (it was at Steamworks Seattle), and we were on the cusp of the dark area and started fucking. Some male-Karen comes around the corner with his friend and starts telling us how we should be using protection (I remember him reaching in to the wall-container of condoms) and telling us we were being irresponsible. I was so taken aback and thought they were joking. Nope, they legit were not joking. I've had two other very strange and out of place encounters like that over the decades.....boo.

LOL , turns you in to a nasty fucking slut - where did you start? 🙂 Thought nasty fucking slut was baseline lol hugs 🙂

There's plenty to be said on the "more bottoms than tops" thread here (enter the fucking rabbit hole), and the many EXCUSES we find NOT to fuck each other, but I encountered two different situations recently that both had me in my thoughts. ALL THINGS EQUAL in terms of our sexual wants and preferences, what we were looking for, etc. two things were called out by the other person "in case it makes a difference" (which it does not): One dude is missing limbs (legs). Had I just gotten there I don't think I would have even remarked on it (maybe after cumming would have asked what happened if he was willing to share). He has two prosthetic legs. He is sexy as fuck, nice, dominant, etc. One person lives in subsidized housing. Again, I don't know that I would have thought about it or known it was subsidized housing had I just got there and hooked up. I imagine the revelation of these things prior to hooking up had to do with past rejection or some asshole arriving in the situation and the running screaming like a bitch. When I asked both said something along the lines of "...I tell people because I am insecure." WOOF! None of those things are in a profile field on a site. And to me, though very different things, neither matters at all. So I guess my question is - all things equal, what could disqualify a person from being fuckable/worth a hookup? GODDAMN if FICO scores and physical differences start showing up on profiles, I'm jumping ship. If they have those felt paintings all over their walls? If they are a furry? If they have a Care Bear comforter on their bed? What's next. AGH!

This is the metal version of the rubber ones I linked to above. I have toys/plugs bigger than this. I've managed getting it in about 5 times over the years. Bought it off Fort Troff.

Getting piss-filled is equivalent to winning the gay lotto for me - like having a spontaneous awesome group sex session happen without planning. I'm clear to dudes that I like WS, but in a few decades of being gay on in the scene, getting pissed *IN* has only happened a few times. Attempted a few times more. Pissed on - substantially more times. If you want your hole pissed in, I'd echo some of what has already been said: it's a challenge - even if you ignore pee-shyness (which is 100% real and not anything that should be seen as a negative), the pressure a hole around a dick makes it harder to unload; it's easier if you're a looser bottom so if you can get yourself worked prior to the sesh, more probably decide before or after - if they are fucking you, do you want to be pissed in before or after they fuck you? Or during? It's different because before it's definitely a WS scene and messy, after it could just be that they finished and are leaving you to deal with being a cumdump - then lead things that direction understand their level - like above, understand if they are WS "tolerant" or a WS "lover" - filling you with piss and fucking it out of you is definitely "lover" side, pissing on you after they fuck you is more on the "tolerant" side There are a lot of toys that can help though! Anal grommets - mine is metal and impossible but here's some similar: [think before following links] https://www.boyzshop.com/products/gape-grommets-3-piece-hollow-silicone-anal-dilator-set#:~:text=Give Your Ass A Good Gaping. These three This can make you more of a urinal where they can piss in you just standing over you versus being inside hollow buttplugs with or without funnels: same idea to above and I'm sure you've seen these in videos Personally, anything beyond pissing on me is something for play with guys that equally love WS because they see it more than just an ask of a needy bottom 🙂 Chef's kiss to getting fucked in a piss-soaked jock and/or getting piss-fucked.

Uh - what do the "none of the above" people do? Sounds sad.

This actually isn't quite true. Prior to the internet, gays were flagging with hankies in left/right back pocket/arm to signal not just top/bottom but also interest in certain sexual activities (fisting = red, watersports = yellow, etc.; left side = top, right side = bottom). I know this comment is quite old, but when I saw it - it made me think did the hankie code even have a notion of versatile? I don't think so. Did it? And if two tops bumped in to each other, did they negotiate or switch the side of the hankie or just assume they weren't compatible and move on? Again, wasn't alive at that time but I don't know there was a lot of talking where these hookups took place.

When I read these words (without seeing who they were from) they felt like what I would say. I used the exact words "unicorn" when someone in my life declared themselves a "domtop" - I said, "be careful, that's a dangerous designation...and it might pigeonhole you" and "how do you know?" and "but does that mean you wouldn't fuck another top?" The other thing during this really lengthy discussion of proportionality that occurs to me is - the collective "we" hopes for people to be more flexible...the resounding commentary from this thread seems to be "I wish we could all be more flexible." But we're not actually giving that vibe. So - let me say this - the best tops seem to know exactly what they are doing, how to do it, the rhythm with which to do it, and have the confidence to do it. The best bottoms I know seem to instinctually open to a top and move collectively with them. I wish I knew what the tops knew and could play with them without expectation, and I wish from the best bottoms I knew how they just opened themselves up. I'm pretty good at fucking but I don't do either as best as those who do it in my opinion. So, if we say you need to be "X" in order for us to hook up, then we might as well just be stuck exactly who we are. Tops will be tops, bottoms will be bottoms, and for whatever reason those so sure of their position will be confortable. I don't know where this stuff comes from, but I do think that: bottoms likely would like to top; a sizeable number of tops wonder what it's like to be a bottom. But we're not giving that space.

That's fucking commitment! Impressive. I want to learn more because I'm much more on the DOM side of things when it comes to this but tried to self-SUB this year and failed miserably - mostly because I got a PA on Sept 30 and the combo of first lockup + brand new PA was not good. What you're doing is like the pinnacle of achievement. So fuck yeah and hope you are enjoying this locktober. Did you do anything new for the month or just keep things the same?

I wasn't trying to go Biblical...but kinda yeah? Don't we? Aren't we? isn't that the nature of all our complaints 🙂

We've painted ourselves into this so it's our job to find our path out. EVERY site requires physical / health / other attributes (or "ASK ME" type responses) and nothing else, often with the ability to choose only one thing. There's a thread on here about "are there more bottoms than tops" but on any given night of the week, I might feel one way or the other, but I'm not updating my profile on BBRT to reflect it. We're then left with some freeform box of text to talk about who we might really be. Is it a lie to say that I'm a "vers bottom" when I'm exploring topping? Is there "aspiring top" that would encourage someone to take the chance that it might not be great? So, the situation we might create is you're a 62-year-old, healthy, lived an exceptional life and just ran a marathon, can fuck like you've never been fucked before, love slutty 30-year-old bottoms, you look like you're a million bucks. He's honest so ranks himself as "average" on body type. His dick is thick and awesome, but he calls it a "6'" and average. The 30-year-old bottom would have gotten the fuck of his life, had a great time, but at face value would have seen this "honesty" as "not my type." Imagine if I was the 30-year-old bottom and I was really wanting to experiment with being a top. Are we encouraging honesty? And if we can't say yes, then we probably aren't.

What I just experienced seems to play in to this discussion a bit...(my last comment from today 10/5/20204)

There are entire generations of gay men that felt the same way. Unfortunately, they had to deal with reality and far less scientific advancement.

LOVE it. Remote load given! 🙂

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not (I hope not 🙂 ). There are a couple of threads floating around right now that are tangential to this: "I want to bareback with no risk at all" type questions be that HIV, STIS, or having their butthole ripped by a big dick. I'm like - the field is pretty plain and obvious. If you can figure out bareback sex with no HIV and no STIs, then travel back in time and save an entire generation of gays,

I think these films captivated the fuck out of everyone when they suddenly materialized. It's hot, for sure. I think the lighting is a bit aggressive for a more sleazy vibe, but I fully support someone building such a place as an option for the GHs at places like Pleasures in Colorado (no judgment). If I wanted to bottom and could pay $x/hr, get strapped in, and jsut take the dicks that arrive, I definitely would. It's like Horsemarket but a permanent brick/mortar location. The Horsemarket people probably have some opinions on how viable that is financially 🙂 That's the real question - you can make this shit happen it's just whether you can get the people in to pay the rent. Breaking even is fine and some cumdump bottom will clean the place for free if we let him have some hours 🙂

I'm attempting to give you a "reaction" but apparently I've already reacted too much today!: 🙂 HELL YEAH pig! I don't know how possible that is in WV, the 25+ is hard here in Denver, but the rest is 100% possible! 🙂

There are two things for me: 1) double penetration which I strangely learned from a straight porn with Debbie Lovelace that I found - a dick in the butt and in that other thing women have and 2) group/gang bang - I was sufficiently young that my first exposure to porn was actually group/gang bang so I think I've always aspired to that. Been successful a few times but damn it's a lot of work to coordinate.

IIsn't the answer to this the massive millions of dollars that went in to PreP? And if this is really an issue, then why are there so many chasers? This topic is beguiling. Also, I'd like to be rich but don't really want to work and haven't won the Lotto...how do I do that?

I mean absolutely no offense, but I giggled a little bit when I thought about the days when "serosorting" was an actual strategy - AND it was for people trying to bareback but not get pozzed. Totally okay with that. We were babies in terms of understanding all of this. In retrospect, it's silly to think about though. If you were having sex frequently enough to even consider a strategy like serosorting because you wanted to bareback in the Pre-PreP era, you'd have to be at the clinic or your doctor's all the time - which gave you a very narrow of reassurance where you could state definitively you were neg or poz or whatever. The math doesn't math when you look back at it 🙂