UT,LA,VA,MS,MT,AR,TX,NC are now ALL blocked! (IN & ID 7/1)

[BootmanLA]

9 hours ago, PozTalkAuthor said:

I'm not one of those believing in conspiracy or stuff, I talk as a computer professional: true that VPN's and anonymizers are sometimes used to harm, but well, even knives. Even cars... And PILLOWS have been used to kill, sometimes. So? Do we give punishments to people having a pillow at home? 

Not to support the law in any fashion: but as I read it, there's no penalty for having a VPN on your computer, per se. VPNs, like pillows and cars and knives, have legitimate uses.

What the law would do is make it a crime (a misdemeanor, but still a crime) to USE the VPN as a way of getting around the porn ban. In that sense, it's not conceptually different from, say, using the knife to threaten someone. It's HOW it's used that would be criminal under this law - NOT the simple fact of having it.

Again: still a shitty law, but we need to be clear about what it does and not mischaracterize it.

[PozTalkAuthor]

38 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

Not to support the law in any fashion: but as I read it, there's no penalty for having a VPN on your computer, per se. VPNs, like pillows and cars and knives, have legitimate uses.

What the law would do is make it a crime (a misdemeanor, but still a crime) to USE the VPN as a way of getting around the porn ban. In that sense, it's not conceptually different from, say, using the knife to threaten someone. It's HOW it's used that would be criminal under this law - NOT the simple fact of having it.

Again: still a shitty law, but we need to be clear about what it does and not mischaracterize it.

 

Yeah, I got it! And understood it; thanks for having added this, as from my previous post the meaning could be misunderstood. 

The problem persists anyways, as it's the beginning of pornography criminalization. Then the step from here to ban every content regarding sex (including sex education) is very, very short. 

Wearing the paranoid mask now LOL

[UKFFBBBtm]

USA right now:

Porn is bad and we just protect the children from even though its not killing or hurting children in a physical way.

Guns are a sacred "god" given right and we must have access to all of them without delay even though we have the highest mass shooting and child death rate in the world.

[rublthlad]

16 hours ago, PozTalkAuthor said:

This matter of punishing even people who use a VPN is even more dangerous than the "anti-porn" laws themselves. 

This is the introduction to government censorship 

I'm not one of those believing in conspiracy or stuff, I talk as a computer professional: true that VPN's and anonymizers are sometimes used to harm, but well, even knives. Even cars... And PILLOWS have been used to kill, sometimes. So? Do we give punishments to people having a pillow at home? 

The most serious problem is that politicians proposing and voting these rules, use an existing problem (need to protect minors from inappropriate contents), for making citizens accept strict anti-freedom rules. 

And why all of this? Because they do not want to make the effort of working in EDUCATION. It's hard to do, it's long and slow, but it's long-lasting too. 

I'm European and many countries are discussing these "internet-killer" laws too. 

Voting is the only way we have, to defend ourselves! But when they put children in propaganda, for non-rational people it's very very difficult! 

I have a 15-months-old nephew, my twin sister's giving me a niece in 2024, who knows what I'd do if someone ever tries to put their hands on my family. But I'm enough rational and experienced in Internet and computers, to understand that prohibition is not effective. It represses adults, who then might even between violent to the same children they want to protect. 

If you don't have access to porn any longer what do you do? With the horniness you used to satisfy seeing naked folks on video/pic, you just try to manipulate ordinary social networks and chats visitors, to get them naked in your private chat sessions. That's all. 

P.S. - same to make porn access difficults, are the same to promote weapons! 

Sorry, I'm always frank while I talk. As usual. 

I agree if we had better Education in terms of how to use the internet, and got parents more involved then maybe the need for such strict legislation would diminish, I am have always been suprised when tecah/lecturing on the internet just how naieve people are about anything and everything to do with the Internet in particular the politiocians who usually coem across as downright ignorant and just balme everyone else for the problems

[ErosWired]

3 hours ago, rublthlad said:

I agree if we had better Education in terms of how to use the internet, and got parents more involved then maybe the need for such strict legislation would diminish, I am have always been suprised when tecah/lecturing on the internet just how naieve people are about anything and everything to do with the Internet in particular the politiocians who usually coem across as downright ignorant and just balme everyone else for the problems

In cases like this I’m not sure ignorance and naïvete is the problem. What we have are ruthless politicians with a religious agenda using emotionally manipulative rhetoric as propaganda to influence voters to act against their own interests on the basis of their emotions rather than their reason. They do it absolutely by design because they know their agenda will not prevail if people stop to think about it.

This is why you see all these moral/religious crusades couched in language that they’re “to protect our children”. It’s extremely difficult for an opposing politician to argue against that, because it makes them look like they don’t care about children, and separating the actual issue from children is a steep uphill climb when you’re having to make people think instead of feel. Thinking is hard. Feeling is easy, and feeling happens first. Humans default to quick and easy.

Educating people is only useful if you can get them into thinking mode. The difficulty lies in preventing them from acting on their fight/flight/freeze self-protective fear instinct that fires up automatically - the children are in danger? No! We must act! - and stop to think.

You only have to spook one herd animal to start a mass stampede. Try stopping a herd of panicked wildebeest with a reasoned argument (or indeed, anything at all). One might argue that a wildebeest can’t be educated in the first place, but these politicians are manipulating a very animal part of the human brain, instincts we had long before we started rational thought. We still panic, and stampede, and don’t stop to think it through.

Possibly the more effective educational tactic isn’t to make people see the issue more clearly, but simply to expose and discredit the politician’s tactics for what they are so that his manipulations no longer have power. One way or the other, the key is to remove his power to evoke fear.

One way to do this is through ridicule - which is why political cartoons have long been so powerful.

Edited November 10, 2023 by ErosWired

[11bi11guy]

Not to take away from the political discussion, which I always appreciate, but I have a practical question: I live in Illinois, which as far as I’m aware is not one of the problematic states. But I just tried to access the site and was blocked. The replacement page indicated it thought my IP address was located in Texas. I restarted my phone and was able to access the site again.

But in the event I’m erroneously blocked again in the future more permanently, or (simulation forbid) my state actually joins the ranks of the banned, is there another way to contact the moderators/administrators of the site? Googling doesn’t come up with much (which, all things considered, is probably a good thing for operational security). I’d like to have a contact in case of technical errors like the one I experienced (in the event I can’t figure it out), have a contact for helping to fight the political fight, and at least get news and updates on the possibility of future access. This is an excellent community, and I would hate to think the site might drop altogether without me knowing.

[viking8x6]

If needed, you can get support by email at support <at> studio3x.com (or that should be correct).

The footer of the MalePrime page (the one you get if you are blocked) contains a link to the Studio3X about page, which includes that email address.

 

[ellentonboy]

Just give in, buy yourself a VPN and set your location as NYC.  I did that for another Forum,  owned by the company VerticalScope, who have hundreds of forums.  Most are sports forums,  but I had an incident where I used a VPN I purchased for my MacBook Air and I was able to get around their security.  It wasn't the crime of the century, but I was able to get around my "ban" for the entire six months.

I think VPNs are a good thing, in general.  I believe they add an extra layer of security.  Now I know the friendly management at Barebackrt.com won't let you sign on if they detect a VPN, but that is a different story entirely.

[evilcoyote]

Interestingly enough, I was in NYC last week and in my hotel on WiFi I was blocked due to the "location" of my IP address. Turned off WiFi and it worked. 

I figured that the hotel IP was in one of the no, no states. 

[Njn0mc]

Whats up with this?

Every time I go to breeding.zone i get this page?

If i vpn to another side of the country USA.  Then i can get in.

North and South Carolina area seems to see this. Its not a government block site..

Anyone else seeing this page?

[BootmanLA]

5 hours ago, Njn0mc said:

Whats up with this?

Every time I go to breeding.zone i get this page?

If i vpn to another side of the country USA.  Then i can get in.

North and South Carolina area seems to see this. Its not a government block site..

Anyone else seeing this page?

My guess would be that NC and SC have enacted similar legislation requiring age verification on porn sites and are now caught up in this. In fact, if you read the title of this thread, it says "and NC soon" - meaning that it would be blocked once the NC law went into effect.

Until legislatures stop passing unconstitutional* bills that require people to identify themselves in order to access a website, this will continue to happen for more and more states.

*I say unconstitutional because it's settled law** that the First Amendment prohibits the government from forcing people to identify themselves in order to access legal content. 

[rawTOP]

On 1/15/2024 at 11:11 AM, Njn0mc said:

Whats up with this?

Every time I go to breeding.zone i get this page?

If i vpn to another side of the country USA.  Then i can get in.

North and South Carolina area seems to see this. Its not a government block site..

Anyone else seeing this page?

Scroll down and you'll see which of the blocked states your traffic is being routed through.

Complain to your ISP - ask them for a clean ISP that doesn't (or hasn't recently been used to) route traffic through a state with restrictions.

[fantasyreader]

On 1/15/2024 at 10:11 AM, Njn0mc said:

Whats up with this?

Every time I go to breeding.zone i get this page?

If i vpn to another side of the country USA.  Then i can get in.

North and South Carolina area seems to see this. Its not a government block site..

Anyone else seeing this page?

I'm getting this page too from Alabama. The weird thing is that my phone on the WiFi accesses Breeding Zone just fine, but my computer on the same WiFi at the same time gets the redirect page. Phone is a Pixel using Chrome. Computer redirects whether using Chrome or Edge. I don't know why the phone and computer would be any different when using the same WiFi connection at exactly the same time.

[fantasyreader]

18 minutes ago, fantasyreader said:

I'm getting this page too from Alabama. The weird thing is that my phone on the WiFi accesses Breeding Zone just fine, but my computer on the same WiFi at the same time gets the redirect page. Phone is a Pixel using Chrome. Computer redirects whether using Chrome or Edge. I don't know why the phone and computer would be any different when using the same WiFi connection at exactly the same time.

And now it's working on the computer!  I don't think anything changed on my end, so that's weird.

 

[Boinxdoor19]

I’m confused as to why I need to sign in to the website MalePrime.com in order to access this site are you being hacked to force registration in other sites ? It’s getting very questionable? Is this to prove age or just some other reason?