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At the beginning of taking it...I would have the loudest massive farts! Or it could of been the protein powder I had started for working out! Either way, they have stopped...thank the baby jesus!

Thanks for all the love on this guys

Ah so basically instead of being seen as jack of all trades verse guys are seen as master of none. I have heard sayings that guys who are verse are really just bottoms in disguise. There is probably a lot of truth in that but I don't think it's everyone. Definitely in my experience guys who say they are verse or pretty great at both roles. Being verse in itself is interesting because sometimes you might either crave more fucking or getting fucked but that might be depending on the person. For me personally it depends on who I'm with that can kinda determine the mood or swing of what position I and the other guy will be in. There's probably a lot more that needs to be said about social apps/websites and guys on them in general. But having to disguise yourself as a bottom or top is absolutely crazy. I believe on of mine I say verse/bottom but it's definitely more even verse now. The only bottom aspect is in the demeanor I have with guys who are more Dom but that's obviously not every guy. The position aspect though is versatile. I'm not judging you for having to do that though. Thinking back more I think guys did this often and maybe even myself included but not sure if I did it that frequently. I have seen guys online though both tops and bottoms who will basically have nothing to do with you if you are verse. But i'm not necessarily sure they would give you that much more time of the day if the profile was changed. But again I think that's just more how guys act online which is a completely separate discussion. I do feel that overall the guys I've had sex with and the more honest and open I've been about either being verse, uninhibited and more open about what I do seems to lead either to more repeats or just fun experiences overall. That even includes meeting guys at public places stating I'm verse or they are has generally led to more fun. But like you said it could completely depend on the area or city you are in. I do hope that either something changes with the city or area you are in or the guys on the websites/apps (that last part probably won't happen though) where you can be honest about verse and it not impacting you in a negative way.

Kudos, rawinme. Without the crucial bond of trust being established, the most potent facet of B/d S/m - the giving up one's control of the bottom, and the acceptance of control of the Top - the magnificent "connection" that is available to each man will be impossible to establish. Without that trust being well-established (which no true Leatherman would allow via what we call "a negotiation") the exercise is almost certain to - at best - fail.

Never having experienced that peculiar behavior, I would like to say I'd pull out and save the load for a guy that actually does want/need it. I'm pretty sure I would ... but .... it might depend on how close I am, too .... which raises an interesting question: In the fuckjoints, when every guy is fucking/getting fucked raw, why would a bottom gladly take a hard raw cock up his gut, if he didn't want the load in the first place? Just to irritate the Top(s)? That'd be risky business too. Some Tops would be all the more determined to breed the fuck outta that bottom, but then the question (for the T) becomes "do I waste my sperm on this asshole (pardon the usage), or give it to some other, more deserving bottom?

You're going to love your first black dick. Mine was a three way with the guy who popped my cherry.

THIS discussion, sharing of viewpoints, is probably the biggest reason I like BZ: No guy has been throwing stones at some other guy. Each guy has well-reasoned, well-written additions to the conversation. Thanks, each of you, and please do continue. ❤️

It disappoints me how verse are treated in the hookup scene (at least where im at). Viewed as undesirable, not being good at what they do, or are disguised and are actually bottoms. Now if its guys who are lying about being verse then, yeah, thats gonna be a bad experience. However, guys who are true verse are damn good at being both a top or bottom depending on who the role they take. This extends to to verse bottoms and verse tops. Personally, I have to disguise myself as a bottom or a top on hookup accounts to get more of a shot at an actual hookup. There are too many bottoms around my area, so to hookup with any I have to just say that im all top. And for tops who see verse they say that they dont bottom and ignore the rest of the convo. So I have say im all top or all bottom. Im good at both because i have to be (I top more often than I bottom) but it's frustrating that theres just a section that's ignored or treated with badly because they aren't all one way or the other. I feel its a misunderstanding of what being any kind of verse actually is.

I started with Truvada and when Descovy came out my doctor switched me to that. I do have Osteoporosis at a fairly young age. I continue to take Prep now. How many of you have been on some kind of prep for more than 15 years. Do you have any negative effects from it on your body? Not even sure when I started but Soon after the Truvada was available.

Local cruising spot has a picnic table tucked away slightly behind a grove of trees off the path. Ended up going a bit after dark and managed to find three guys there already giving each other blowjobs. Went to my knees and joined in and managed to get two of them VERY enthusiastic again after they’d already finished once. Got pulled up and bent over the picnic table where they filled me up while I huffed on a new bottle of poppers. Was fucking glorious 🥵. Another time for the same location had kidnapped a stocky bottom buddy of mine, blindfolded him, and bent him over the same picnic table. On that occasion as well there were a few different guys in attendance and managed to get one of them worked up to join in while the other two watched. We ended up switching back and forth filling him up for almost an hour while he played “guess the cock”. Afterwards kidnapped him back to my place and gave him a second load. VERY successful evening overall. I fucking love being face down ass up by the door whenever I can get someone interested in full on anon play (major bucket list item to pig out with), but I’ve only had two successes that way to date as I’ve mostly been relying on sniffies which has been horrible in my city for both top/bottom ratio as well as getting someone that will actually show up and not flake. For both success cases they’ve been amazing though, as I lay out some mats, put on a blindfold and have a harness on for extra leverage. Fucking loved getting poppered up before they walked in the door and the anticipation of not knowing exactly when they were going to walk in absolutely had my ass twitching in anticipation. One guy just started pounding away as I moaned and started leaning back into him (had fun cleaning up the last drops of cum off of his cock after he’d unloaded in my ass as well 😈). I’ve tried the bathhouse and play party thing on occasion, but I’m new to that side of things so don’t quite seem to have the hang of it just yet and haven’t seen much success (VERY happy to have someone take me on a “guided tour” at some point if they want to provide introductions though). Still a bit newer to the “unrestricted whore” side of things compared to others but holy hell am I loving the learning experience lol

neg and drug-free. No Prep.

Definitely hope it’s a successful night of it for ya! and would 100% be interested for future occasions