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Group sex, at least of the variety that includes switching partners is almost unheard of here. We get a little bit of multiple couples fucking side by side in the same place, but no partner swapping, no spit roasting and definitely no train fucking. I suppose fear of HepC could be a factor, but I'm inclined to think it is more a cultural aversion to fucking than anything else. By just offering their holes in a group setting, those 2 bottoms are further down the road to slutdom than most guys here. They are no doubt used to being slut shamed themselves.

Any idea how to change it? It has frustrated me for almost 2 decades.

The top doesn't have HepC in this scenario. It's spread from hole to hole via the top's dick. This was discussed in the HIV/AIDS & Sexual Health Issues Forum where I learned it. Perhaps the two local bottoms in the OP's post read that thread also.

Welcome. Ethan, those is a good space to have fun to learn debate. Lots of meaty topics of course pun intended, greae pix and stories. You're gonna like it here.

Hello. I'm Ethan, and I am horrible at introducing myself and tend to be a lurker, but figured I should give it a go. I'm 26, pansexual verse switch, though a dom and top primarily. I have gotten up to a fair bit of trouble in my short life (all consensual of course) and I suspect that is probably not going to stop any time soon. It's getting to the point where I'd like to have a social space to talk about certain things instead of keeping it inside or feeling the need to tell friends lol (no matter now non-judgemental they are, there are just some things i dont want them to know). I am a sadist first and foremost, and hypersexual, but have put a lot of effort into fictionalizing certain desires. I'm here in large part because having someone cum in my ass (no condom obv) is one of my biggest turn ons, ESPECIALLY if it's a rando and there is a risk of... something, despite typically only being able to cum if I am the top or imagining myself as such. I also am fixated on the idea of 'gift-giving' for a long time, (receiving and giving) but only recently learned that that is a thing others are into. I've been trying to figure out what exactly makes the difference between when I need to fuck someone else, or be fucked myself. Apparently there's some sort of difference. lol I write a lot of fiction and like to talk about responsibly engaging with kink. I am open to story requests. I think I have found and read all the forum rules but will take another look just in case.

If a top has HepC then how does washing his dick keep it from being spread?

I truly wonder about that.

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I’m planning on visit this August, I’m a cum dump. I wondered in your hotel or Club 541, as a bottom, how many loads did you take in one day?

The local "go wash your dick first'" bottoms don't want to contract HepC and perhaps are aware of some local cases. I can't blame them. But they shouldn't be buck naked - ass up at the gay bathhouse during Pride week if that's the concern.

Sorry, but those bottoms' point totally escapes me. Ain't that supposed to be the fun part of having a bare anonymous group fuck?!? - having a guy's sloppy, slimy, cummy dick shoved up your ass or down your throat. If he really thinks that Top's cock is too dirty for his ass, IMHO he should just lick it clean... 😋

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If I am in the zone and my dick is so hard that I could engrave glass with it, then the "cute lil' bottom" ain't getting fucked if he tells me that I need to wash my dick! I'll move on to a more horny bottom that can read the room and can appreciate a good rutting in his ass and a good group play!

It really is bizarre how uptight the scene is here in Portland.

I love both going from hole to hole, and taking dicks that are going from hole to hole, but group scenes rarely happen locally and when we do it is almost guaranteed that a bottom will reject a dick that is going from hole to hole. Most of them would be horrified at what I do when I travel.

Call me a pig, but I love taking a cock that's just been up some other sluts hole.

Yesterday was Pride here in Portland, plus it was a cold rainy day with highs in the 50's here in Portland (which seems to be better for sex than a warm sunny day), so I headed out to Steam with decent hopes. I arrived and found a huge crowd and very little sex happening as usual, what I didn't realize was we there were also a significant number of out of town visitors present, and eventually found there were small groups fucking (almost unheard of here) at least briefly in the various play spaces in the club. The problem was the regulars kept killing the action once it started up. The 1st group I got involved with I started fucking a guy (who turned out to be from Ft Lauderdale) when several other guys joined us. The 1st guy to join was a verse top who fucks me regularly who wanted to fuck the new bottom, and was soon switching off fucking both of us. The problem occurred when 2 local bottoms sort of joined the action with a top Id never seen before. One of the local bottoms tapped out after just a few strokes and the new top started to move to the other bottom offering his hole when the local bottom told him loudly, and in my opinion rudely, that he need to wash his dick before he could fuck him, which caused the action to break up fairly quickly. The 2nd time it happened, there were 3 couples going at it in the sling play area. I was fucking a guy from Brazil, 2 tops I've never seen before were fucking 2 local bottoms when one top decided to move on and the other bottom came and wanted his top to stop, when the top who was still horny tried to fuck the newly vacated bottom, but was asked to go wash his dick 1st. Once again the action broke up. 3rd time I wasn't actually one of the participants but looking to join in, but the same local bottom from the 1st group scene did the same thing again, once again breaking up the small orgy that was just starting. All in all not a bad night for Portland, I had my dick up several guys, wound up cumming both the guy from Ft Lauderdale and Brazil, and took loads from my regular and a guy from Denver and got 2 other new dicks in my hole that didn't breed me. I just have to wonder what could have been, without the regulars, that are actually pretty big sluts by local standards, doing their normal thing.

I definitely have anal orgasms that don't involve ejaculation. When it comes to bottoming, I have anal orgasms with cum, anal orgasms with piss (pissgasms), and dry anal orgasms. They all share the same wash of euphoria and the same pressure release, the only difference is what the contractions in what my pelvic muscles are physically pushing out of me as they pulse and spasm, if anything. In the last few years, I also unlocked the throatgasm, where I can orgasm from getting throat fucked hard. In terms of how long they last, I think of them as buildable, meaning that once I crest that first peak, I can lean into it or fight it, and if I fight it it usually just accelerates the sensation and forces me to cum harder. Whereas if I lean into it and ride with it, it can lengthen the time between crests and slow-play an orgasm over potentially up to 15 minutes; there I have peaks and dips but all of it is riding high on that orgasmic plane, and only once I feel the come down do I know it's over. Honestly, the best thing I ever did for my orgasms was lock up in a tiny chastity device and force my penis to not be part of the narrative. When the orgasm has zero penile stimulation involved, I can ride it so much futher and deeper than I ever could from a cumshot.

It's next weekend (6/27-6/29). Anyone on here going?