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So… MEA CULPA… The article that I started this thread with is FAKE NEWS! Apparently guy in the pic has neurofibromatosis, not monkeypox. Reddit has banned the story. Below is the bit that I said in a post above that was wrong… That said, based on what people are saying here some health authorities and doctors are giving out misinformation or inadequate information, so it's not like it isn't an issue.
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Justice Thomas makes it clear decisions support our rights are next
rawTOP replied to drscorpio's topic in LGBT Politics
This is a false statement. Evidence is here… https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22270271/ When you see a demonstrably false statement or conspiracy theory posted here, please report the post and an infraction will be given to the member (as I've done with TotalTop). -
All it takes is one closeted pastor, like Ted Haggard, going for a discreet weekend of fun and then coming back and "ministering" to the boys in his church and then they go and make out with their girlfriend…
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MPX deaths There are now four MPX death deaths outside of Africa… https://apple.news/AzHTxcszNTX64HgjpebLRGw The first one in Brazil sounds like there were a lot of underlying conditions. But this last one in India sounds more serious - 22 years old with no external lesions. Vaccines The vaccine shortage in the US looks like it's gonna go on for months… https://apple.news/AxgmmAkMsQ0mvyvwRCIsDMQ So work hard to get your vaccine now, before they run out. And PLEASE delay your 2nd shot until after everyone has had their 1st shot. They're also discussing giving people the older vaccine that has a lot more side effects. Monkeypox's name There's been a push to rename Monkeypox. Turns out that's complicated. The virus itself will probably continue to be known as Monkeypox, but the illness looks like it may get a new name at some point. One of the suggestions is hMPXV for human Monkeypox Virus. The problem with that is that I've already seen the clinic near me using MPXV for Monkeypox vaccine. But it sounds like it'll take a while for the renaming to happen. https://apple.news/AIBKMdYvaTnSvdT4OSQJQCw (EDIT: the following bit is apparently fake news) People not isolating A doctor spotted a guy on the Madrid Metro with a pretty severe case of MPX. He approached the guy and asked why he wasn't isolating and the guy said his doctor just told him to wear a mask. Meanwhile there are visible sores all over uncovered parts his body and contact with sores is the easiest way to get MPX while respiratory droplets that the mask would stop are actually an unlikely route of transmission. To make things worse, the woman who was near him said she wasn't worried because she's not gay. https://apple.news/AtB59iR0kRD68IV34DrC5oA So it looks like the word is not getting out about how to protect yourself or others.
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Yup… Besides Silver Steele, which @EuroMusk76 detailed, here are a few more… This tweet from HungerFF doesn't mention vaccination, but after looking at the pics IMHO it should make people want to get vaccinated… I've also seen guys mention they got vaccinated - which acknowledges the problem and makes it clear that vaccination is good. There's a lot of example - but I can't put my finger on them right this very moment.
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Hypothesizing… All the sex parties shut down (voluntarily). Guys know friend (or friends of friends) who got it and are going through long painful illnesses. Guys are seeing OF/JFF models describe what they're going through and urging them to get vaccinated. More guys are getting vaccinated. Most guys are just cutting back on sex generally. The guys who aren't cutting back are getting it and in too much pain to have sex. The other (less optimistic) reason might be that the 9.4% represented a getting through a backlog of tests (it was around the time additional labs were allowed to do the test). If that's the case then the percentage that week might be artificially high and it may not actually be going down.
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Good news, kinda… The rate of increase for MPX cases in NYC is going down. Last week it averaged a 6.6% increase each day. The week before it was 9.4%.
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There are now two deaths related to MPX outside of Africa - one reported Friday in Brazil and one reported today in Spain… https://apple.news/ADR32bQIwRVuQ-VLGp8h5Fg Another interesting detail in that story - in Spain 3.2% of the known cases require hospitalization.
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Since Smallpox and MPX are both orthopoxviruses and the vaccines were/are actually general vaccines against orthopoxviruses - then yes, the current vaccine will act as a booster for any vaccines you got as a kid. Smallpox was wiped out because there was enough herd immunity. But I'm not aware of any studies that say how much immunity a particular person has if they only got 1 or 2 shots 50 years ago. It's an unknown. And when a medical provider asks if you got "it" as a kid - that's the wrong way to put it when "it" wasn't a single thing - it was 4 shots - and it's wrong to assume 1 shot is as effective as 4 shots 50 years later. The problem is lack of data. Smallpox isn't around anymore, and Monkeypox has only affected relatively small numbers of people in countries that the rest of the world doesn't pay attention to. If we had data we'd know what to do right now, but we don't have the data since no one studied it properly in Africa. Which makes the point that it pays to deal with other people's problems. If the world had dealt with MPX when it was "just an African problem" then it wouldn't be a problem now. And if the world doesn't deal with it when it's "just a gay problem" then they'll have to deal with it when it gets into the general population (via school kids or prisons, or whatever)…
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Governmental Porn Blocks Have Started – How Circumvent Them
rawTOP replied to rawTOP's topic in LGBT Politics
You've got to be typing in a bad URL. ALL of the following should work… breeding.zone http://breeding.zone https://breeding.zone breedingzone.com http://breedingzone.com https://breedingzone.com www.breedingzone.com http://breedingzone.com https://breedingzone.com In addition there's (http:// | https://)www.breeding.zone which goes to the site where the chat feature runs, but there's a link to the forum on there. If you can tell me exactly what you're doing when it doesn't work, then maybe we can figure out what you're doing wrong. -
Justice Thomas makes it clear decisions support our rights are next
rawTOP replied to drscorpio's topic in LGBT Politics
I think for him it was transactional. He supported a policy he didn't necessarily believe in because it would give him needed support from a large group of people without whom he couldn't win the presidency. And he knew continuing to support their agenda would be his best chance to retain power. -
The Michigan Supreme Court has ruled that discrimination against LGBT+ folks is sex discrimination under Michigan's anti-discrimination law! https://apple.news/A0qJZ3nK1QxyakO7ITaJGVA
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If this is your source for saying 85% efficacy… That source does not say that a 50 year old, incomplete vaccination is 85% effective. In fact it's unclear what they're talking about. The way I read it they're talking about JYNNEOS and they acknowledge that it's based in part on animal studies, not studies in humans. It's always better to err on the side of caution. Hence my comment that one shouldn't assume protection from 1 or 2 shots 50 years ago.
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The smallpox vaccination was a series of 4 shots at 18 months, 5-6 years (just before school), 10 years and 15 years. The US stopped giving that vaccination in 1972. As a result you'd need to be over ~65 years old to have had all 4 shots, over ~60 to have had 3, over ~55 to have had two. I wouldn't count on much of any protection unless you had 3-4 shots.
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Governmental Porn Blocks Have Started – How Circumvent Them
rawTOP replied to rawTOP's topic in LGBT Politics
ALL browsers on iOS are Safari. The only thing Apple allows developers to do is change the user interface of Safari. Actual other browsers are banned from iOS devices. That means Firefox on iOS isn't really Firefox - it's Safari with an interface done by folks at Mozilla. -
Just had this interaction on Twitter… Can someone please explain to me how the guy's logic makes any sense? He says he's had MPX for 13 days (which is a remarkably short time) He says days 1-3 were body aches and fever (that's believable - but probably not for minor case) That means days 4-13 he was symptomatic (10 days of having lesions). All the health authority websites say the lesions last for at least 14 days - and you're infectious for another week after that while the skin grows back over the site of the lesion. 4 days ago (day 9, 6 days into having lesions) he tweeted "Poz ass here looking for loads tonite". How can you be 6 days into having anal lesions and want to get fucked? Any activity down there would be horribly painful with anal lesions. He seems to be differentiating "skin lesions" from lesions on the skin inside your ass - fine, no problem I get what he's trying to say. But I would think lesions in your ass would take a longer time to heal than lesions on your body since it's a less hygienic location. You're not done and ready to go after 10 days. And there's no mention of getting tested. Given that he's presumably in Florida where testing would be hard to come by, I'm 99% sure he doesn't have a positive test result. Either way, takeaway #1 is that he believed himself to have anal MPX and he was trying to get tops to fuck him while he thought he was infectious. That's disturbing. And if he did have MPX he's still infectious. I'm not sure what he had, but I'm almost certain it wasn't MPX. Last I knew he was poz and not on meds. So it could be his weakened immune system acting up and then causing an anal herpes outbreak (which typically goes away in a week). The problem is now he's gonna think he's got antibodies to MPX. When (not if) he gets the real thing maybe then he'll finally understand what it means to have it. In the meantime he's blocked me.
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From the sounds of it, the US will start getting a lot more doses this fall and early next year. So 6 months might be enough of a delay, though it might need to be 9 months. Personally I trust 1) the company that makes it, and 2) Canadian health authorities more than I trust US health authorities. The Canadians just made smarter choices when it came to COVID (at least medical decisions - their contracts to actually get the vaccine were seriously flawed).
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Except people with MPX aren't thought to be infectious until lesions form…
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Here's another thought… If it's super painful, and especially painful to the touch, then how do guys with MPX transmit it sexually? Wouldn't sex be super painful? OK, maybe the first day or two when the lesions are small they could have sex. But that doesn't explain the huge levels of transmission that we're seeing. I suspect that there are mild cases that are so mild people don't realize they have it. Since you need a lesion to do the test, all those cases wouldn't be reported, which means massive under-reporting. That would explain the high levels of transmission that we're seeing. Until there's something like a blood test that can detect it, I don't think we can get a handle on how many active cases there are.
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One of my best friends is going through a pretty painful case of MPX at the moment and his husband has managed to not get it despite being in the same house. Mind you they were both vaccinated (probably right after my friend was exposed). So by now the husband's vaccination is helping him avoid it. Point being - it is absolutely possible to be around someone and not catch it - just depends on the nature of your interaction (and probably a little bit of luck).
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What it's like to have Monkeypox
rawTOP replied to JakeTurner's topic in HIV/AIDS & Sexual Health Issues
Some guys on Twitter are sharing their experiences which seem worse than the ones mentioned here, so I figured I'd include those as well. Click "view" to see the content (since Twitter has them locked down since they're mostly posting porn)… Silver Steele HungerFF Ziven Sparks Ziven wrote out a full blog post with his experience… https://medium.com/@zivensparks/a-sex-workers-monkeypox-experience-5d8b3e4560d6 -
I think the issue is that the best way for MPX to spread is skin to skin contact with a lesion. Group sex is perfect for in that respect. Add on that young, intrepid, more sexually active guys are at higher risk since the didn’t get any smallpox vaccine as a kid… MPX on surfaces is less perfect. There may not be enough virus to cause infection. Or exposure to less virus => less severe infection as we see with COVID. So I think it’ll tear through the gay community and then unpredictably pop up here and there amongst the straights. For us this will be a bit like HIV - either you get it (just once) or you get vaccinated (similar to taking PrEP) and you avoid it. As with COVID any breakthrough infections should be more mild.
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I think there's a lot they don't know, but… https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01493-6
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Well, New York City is now up over 1,000 cases (1,040 to be exact). The CDC (using slightly older state-level data) says just under 1/3rd of the US cases (31%) are in New York State. California only has about 40% of the cases we do despite having double the population.
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Tell me what you think of my logic here… #Monkeypox IS an STI. It’s just not ONLY an STI. Important distinction there… It’s kinda like “all lives matter” (truly), but right now we need to talk about how black lives matter. Personally I think we do our community a disservice if we don’t get the word out that it’s being transmitted sexually, but the idiot anti-vax Republicans will then use that to stigmatize our community. Maybe telling them it’s like all lives matter / BLM will get them to understand. They don’t give a shit about BLM and that’s the equivalent of STI in this analogy, so they should focus on the all lives matter part (that it can be transmitted many other ways). Then again, “haters are gonna hate” no matter what you do, so…
