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None of them. I enjoy being submissive, but the rest of the descriptions do not apply to me. Would I have sex all day every day if physically possible? Sure. But my job description doesn't include "Escort". Life doesn't afford me the luxury of having nothing to do but look for cock. So... I'm a bottom who submits to men... When I get the rare chance.

Mine was deleted so here is my new one. http://tam1026.tumblr.com/

I don't hide behind anything. Victim-mongering? I don't play the victim. Saying I didn't chase doesn't make me a "victim-monger". I take responsibility for my choices in life. But even if I were, that wouldn't change the truth of my posts. Everything I have said is relevant. The same can not be said of you. Again, PrEP is used for anti virus use. Get it right. I refuse to engage in your hate mongering thread any longer. When you start accusing me of doing things that I'm not, I definitely lose any interest in what you have to say. Your words hold no value. You aren't here to discuss and learn. You can't be reasoned with. You don't want to be educated. You just want to attack and hate. You go right ahead and live in your utopian world. Where everyone should be perfect and be just like you. Life is going to be one huge disappointment after another for you. I'll leave you with this: I've found that people like you that judge and trash others for doing things usually have a lot of things they hide from others. Habits that others would find abhorrent or wrong. Or even be guilty of the very thing they trash others for. It's crazy to quote it here, but I will: He who is without sin, cast the first stone. I'm certain you don't qualify. Go ahead and try and bait me again. I'm not going to bite anymore. I'm done.

I never said every cancer was caused by lifestyle choices. Mine wasn't. You don't need to feel the need to educate me on that. I've been there as well. Quit misquoting and making things fit your argument. PrEP is used to keep people from getting the virus HIV, not AIDS. You show your ignorance by not knowing the difference. The fact that I'm HIV positive but don't have to worry about dying of AIDS is anything but problematic for me. Or any other person that contracted the disease. Nor should it be for the taxpayers since we won't have the costly hospital bills that AIDS brings with it. In that same vein, if PrEP can keep the number of infections lower, then it is a cheaper alternative in the long run. Your numbers don't add up. Speaking from experience yet again, the ones who have thrown hate my way didn't even know there was such a thing as chasing the bug. While I don't pretend to understand the thinking behind chasing, I don't believe for a second that the chasers are helping create the stigma. The three letters do that on their own. And lack of education. You are a good example. The stigma remains because people are too lazy to educate themselves. Using you as an example: you say having sex only with men who were tested and are disease free is a good way to keep from getting infected. That is ignorant. You don't know who they have had sex with since being tested. They could be poz and not have the symptoms. They could have a high viral load and neither of you be the wiser. A medicated undetectable person has been proven to be less of a threat. How do you think so many have been infected? Because of ignorant thinking such as yours. When I spoke about compassion, I was referring to your all inclusive statements about people with HIV. Your comments have been harsh and hateful. That said, you are all over the map. You bitch about these people in one sentence yet in the very next sentence you say you would be more inclined to envy them. I'm having a hard time taking you seriously. I'll say this and I'm done: the more of your posts I read, the more I see how uneducated about the VIRUS and DISEASE (two separate things) you really are. Quit wasting people's time and go educate yourself.

A couple of things: chemo costs MUCH more than HIV meds. Yet you wouldn't deny cancer patients the right to have treatment. Nor complain about the astronomical cost shared by insurance holders. Some cancers are preventable yet you would not deny those patients the right to treatment. So it's not right that you single out this disease/virus. Second, not having to worry about AIDS is problematic? I'm very thankful we don't. Would you rather the drug preventing AIDS (and protecting against contracting HIV) had never been discovered? I understand why you say that, but think of the cost of lives had it not been found. That is rather selfish on your part. And very narrow minded. I don't understand your reason for singling out ONE health issue when there are MANY health issues caused by bad habits. And are far more costly. Third and last: having HIV, the stigma is already there. You should look up HIV stigma on YouTube and learn from it. They are trying to change people just like you. People are already stigmatizing gays. Hell.. You have. Your comments in the very first post did that. You put us all in one generalized basket. The lame stream media doesn't have to pick up the story to accomplish that. It's already there. I have been told that I'm a threat to society, that I'm a waste of space and air, and that I should eat a bullet. And these were gay people who told me that. So I already deal with the stigma. Having YOU come on here and further that onto a message board that has become a community for me to feel free and accepted and not have to worry about being judged for what I have is very frustrating. To say the least. I already look at the price every damn time I get my meds from the pharmacy and realize the cost others have to share. But there's not a damned thing I can do about it. Instead of spouting off, go find a big bottle of compassion and swallow it all. We all come from different walks of life on here. Some did get it by chasing, but I'm betting the majority did not. We each have our own story. And they don't belong in the fiction section. Fantasy rarely lives up to reality, and what we are living is not fantasy. It is reality. One that stares us in the face every time we open the pill bottle. We can talk all we want about how people should do this and shouldn't do that, but we don't live in perfect bodies in a perfect world. Humans fuck up. And there is always a price to pay. This isn't Utopia. It's planet earth. So stop the stigmatizing yourself. Some of us beat ourselves up enough about having it. We don't need others helping. I look forward to the day this thread is no longer on the front page. May it be very soon.

Now that says it all. I fucking love that last statement. Going to have to remember that.

I'm with you 100 percent.

I wasn't being defensive. If you would read post after post after post I've made encouraging guys not to chase and saying they don't want it, you would see I definitely don't get off on being a bad boy. Hell.. I haven't had sex in two years. I think I lost my bad boy status (if I ever had it) a long time ago. My response to the one post about making a generalization for "bible bashers" applies to the OP's post. He generalized. You can't make a blanket statement about any one group in society. I've never seen so much diversity as I have in the "gay community". Hell... In the poz community. What can be said about one person doesn't apply to all. We are all different. No one is alike. For example: You say for you, the moral transgression of barebacking is a big part of the attraction. Not for me. I don't even give that a thought. I just love skin on skin fucking. Has nothing to do with it being a social taboo. I don't give thought to the PC crap that has overtaken the world. I don't give thought to what Christians or Muslims say about homosexuality or barebacking. That's not what makes it appealing to me. If it is for others, cool All that said, I would normally agree with you in regards to not being able to read intent and tone in a written message. But just as I can't truly say what his intent was (even tho I have my opinion), neither can you. That also goes both ways. But I'm not here to argue that. Or argue period. I just gave my two cents' worth. I respect yours and agreed with it. And still do. But for someone to come on here and make statements about how we are costing others when I didn't chase it nor wanted it and can't do anything about that burden for others other than stopping my meds... I'm not going to be made to feel like shit about something that took too damn long for me to accept in the first place. I'm not surprised at his post. You spend any given amount of time on this site, and you are surprised by nothing on here. I'm definitely not having a shouting match but merely expressing my view points. And since intent and tone can't be read in text, I will state that I am neither upset or angry in this post. Or any others I have made. I am merely stating why I said what I said. And responding to your statements.

Ok... We don't like the generalizations made about gay people, right? So why do you feel the need to be hypocritical and make a generalization about "bible bashers"? I guarantee you that the vast majority of obese people never step foot in a church nor read a bible. While I agree with your point, I don't think pinning it on "bible bashers" is a fair thing to do. Are there Christians who are obese? Definitely. Is every obese person a Christian? No. Is every Christian obese? No. Is every gay person poz? No. Did every poz person chase? No. So generalizations aren't beneficial to an argument. They take away from the real issue. Attacking others only takes us down to other attackers level. And does nothing to encourage tolerance. I agree. Whole heartedly. But I think there's a better way of doing it than attacking people. I don't believe for one minute the OP had any good intentions for posting. His statements make it out that everyone on here wanted the virus. To put it in a term everyone will understand: bullshit. That said, I have felt from the beginning that those who chase or deliberately infect have self worth issues. Or don't have any regard for their well being or anyone else's. I have found from experience that if you try to educate a chaser, more often than not, he just moves on to someone else that will infect him. I've also found that they can be extremely uneducated. They think it's a pass to fuck with anyone they want with no fear. That is a foolish notion since it cuts your pool of men who are willing to fuck a poz guy down quite a bit. I've had far less sex since being poz than I did before being poz. And they also don't think of the ramifications of being poz when it comes to one's health. But while I think education is key, I still believe it's something deeper emotionally or mentally. But again, I don't think the OP had any of this kind of conversation in mind when he posted. He was purely attacking. While I don't dwell on having HIV every moment of every day, I don't need some asshat coming on here and making me feel even less human for having it.

There are so many things to take issue with in the OP's statement. But I'll take on just two. First: a lot on here didn't ask for the bug. Didn't chase and never wanted it. But they got it anyway. Being on here gives those people a little bit of a sense of belonging. Not judged for having what they didn't ask for. Until posts like these pop up. So of course they are going to take the meds. Why wouldn't they? Second: There are individuals on here that don't glorify HIV necessarily. They just enjoy bareback sex. Horses of a different color.

Pretty sure this topic has been covered multiple times, but I'll have a go at it again since this once again puts bottoms on a lower level than tops. If I, as a bottom, become hard, why should it matter one fuck to the top? Is he going to become self conscious about the size of his dick? Awwwww. My dick is not a clit. It's not a useless piece of flesh to just hang and flop around while being fucked. I was created with one for a reason. And I'm going to jack the hell out of it while getting fucked. Dom/subs: that's a different story. But in the typical top/bottom dynamic, why should it matter? If the top is getting ass, why should he care? Sex is pleasure for BOTH. It's not a one sided act. Bottoms are humans. Just like the top. And we sure as hell have a right to pleasure our cock, come (cum is what comes out of the dick) and still manage (quite well, I might add) to make the top feel incredible. Could I get fucked in chastity? Yeah. Would I get fucked in chastity? No thank you. Hope this answers your question.

Not a myth. There may not be as many out there as there were ten years ago, but they are still out there. I met one just a couple of days ago. Once I said I would not fuck with a condom, he bolted. There will always be someone out there that will always want protection. Hell, my ex wouldn't even bareback with me. And we both had the same status. So, no... Not a myth.

It's ok NLbear. Don't let them get under your skin. That's what they want. You will notice that every thread they start is about how this hook up went wrong and that hook up went wrong. And it was in this city and state and that city and state. And now he's fucking guys in third world countries. Don't buy into the hype. They either are just looking for attention or making fun of the site. Either way, don't buy into it. I'm done with this site. They've taken what was a nice place for poz guys to not feel alone and made a mockery of it. I won't be following this thread, so I don't care what they have to say. If they are for real, I don't care either. Life is too short to bitch and complain about everything. And it's too short to waste my time on attention seekers and players. I'm out.

If he's 100% straight, keep dreaming. He's not going anywhere near a man's ass or cock. The idea that every individual has some gay tendencies is ridiculous. That means that every gay man has some straight tendencies. It can't be one sided. I know many on here who would rather lick puke up from the floor before they'd fuck a woman. That conversion is never gonna happen. Not with a 100% straight man. Hot fantasy? Yes. Gonna happen? Nope.

I put it on my profile. Then I don't have to tell them. Although I do still ask if they noticed my status. You'll win some and lose some. Just a part of having "the gift".....