topblkmale

1 hour ago, Chris42 said:

This was the one site I was hoping wouldn't get political. Both sides fucking suck.

Its the sad reality of our lives in the US and other western societies. One can no longer be around any family, friends or co-workers without hearing mindless, endless political 'discussions'.

(I just nod in agreement and politely change with subject)

Glad things turned out ok and he's NOT underage or a LEO. One day this kid will mess with the wrong guy on Grindr and find himself in a bad situation.

40 minutes ago, Bttml00king said:

Thanks @topblkmale. Do you know that the explore fuction can be disabled on Grindr? I have that enabled. Plus, my distance is turned off. He is 10 miles away so I think it is not that easy to find where I am exactly. 

Yes, I'm aware explore and distance can be turned off. I keep these settings disabled when I'm home. I mainly use Grindr when I travel as I am not interested in doing anything with local guys.

22 hours ago, Bttml00king said:

You are right and thanks for the suggestion. Like you said, it is not worth it. In retrospect, a lot of what he said just didn't add up. First, he said he could travel and meet right away. When I asked where, he said he could meet a few hours later and asked me to pick him up. After I declined, he said he could pick me up. I guess he tried to get my address. His questions asking me if I was married and had kids probably a setup to extort me later. 

Sorry to hear from all the experiences. It is more common than I have thought. What a shitty world that we are living in. 

I deleted my account after the incident and created a new one. To my surprise, the 19 yo is still active with the same profile photo. I could see his distance from me and his tags are dtf, kissing, roleplay. I have reported him to Grindr but I guess nothing has been done.

I am really tempted to approach him as a different person and figure out if he is a LEO. I will be smarter this time for sure. 

Careful. Depending on where you live (suburb, urban, rural) and the distance, he could figure out where you live using the explore function on Grindr. I turn my distance off after I have a shady interaction with someone. But I live in an urban area so someone close-by can figure out where I live just by walking the neighborhood.

4 hours ago, Bttml00king said:

How can one be sure to talk to someone who is not lying about his age, especially minors who say they are 19, 20 or 21 on Grindr? 

I guess not talking to anyone who is below 30 might be safer. 

If you don't mind sharing, how were you approached by LEOs? And how did you know that they were LEOs? 

I was approached by a guy first claiming to be 19 years old then later changed their age closer to being 15 years old. Similar to the OP. The chatting back and forth didn't match the age/demographic I was supposedly chatting with. (use of slang/abbreviations) Also alot of the conversation appeared very purposely scripted. After I the guy changed his age and I suspected it was a LEO, I quickly blocked the profile. Blocking a profile removes the chat history on both parties.

On 2/10/2023 at 10:24 AM, Bottom Jim said:

Report to Grindr I he continues report to police Make sure you saved he said was 19 now 15

Reporting this to the local police might not go over too well for none of the parties involved.

Its quite possible that this WAS actually law enforcement trying to entrap the poster.

For discretion on Grinder I recommend using disappearing pics and NOT talking to anyone under 21 years of age. There are lots of high school age trans kids on Grindr in my neighborhood. (whole other topic for discussion) I immediately block them if they are too close or make ANY kind of contact with my profile. I live in the NE where there are many local jurisdictions and I have been approached at least twice by LEOs aka 'to catch a predator'.

1 hour ago, jimazoid04 said:

I'm visiting NYC next month. Which of the 2 places do you recommend? I am a chub bottom, so I know i won't be the belle of the ball, but even if all I get is some oral action and get off a few times would be nice. What are some of the facilities the 2 have?  Any info you can give would be great, since the websites are virtually no help.

Since your younger I would recommend Rainbow Playground Club. Its a play space where you undress at the check in desk where your clothing is stored in a plastic bag. Guys walk around in underwear or less except Tuesday nights which is totally nude. Tell one of the guys working the front reception desk its your first time. They are generally helpful with that. Most sex venues in NYC have a similar set-up.

When I go to certain sex venues (baths, ABS, clubs)  in my area, guys on Grindr immediately hit me up and ask if I am there. They either live nearby or use the 'explore' feature to find guys who are there.

Never understood this.

Straight sex has clear boundaries. Step outside of those boundaries and you kinky (as they say).

It counts as 'due diligence' and it makes guys feel better about themselves for having unprotected sex with random and complete strangers who they just met in a cruise spot or an online app.

The correct answer remains: Yes, I'm clean. Are you? (make suspicious looking expression on face)

On 11/12/2022 at 2:46 PM, detroitsexyitalian said:

I'm lucky to live not far from bodyzone bathhouse in Detroit.  Late Friday and Saturday night it's 75% black.    It's become increasingly higher percentage black over the years.    Lucky for me....I'm in heaven on those nights.

Is this place still open? I've never been to Detroit but would love to check it out.

16 hours ago, VersatileBreeder said:

One thing for me is I always ask for a face pic, I will not meet without one. I need to see the face of the person I’m meeting.

I wonder if there are still guys out there who will meet each other WITHOUT face pics. I have had to block local faceless profiles on Grindr who have said they have seen me going to work. I don't need that kind of attention.

I live in a dense urban area. I would NOT recommend hooking up with sketchy folks who live within > 1000 to 4000 feet. I've had two previous hook-ups show up at my place randomly unannounced and WAIT.

1 hour ago, SugarWalls said:

When I lived full-time in NYC I used to go to ESC all the time and have very fun, fond memories of it. Based on those memories, decided to go back and check it out again in Oct 2021. Went on Thursday night (7pm-12mid) and sad to say, it was very different -- extremely quiet, with probably max 15 ppl in the whole place. Despite this, I did my usual bathhouse routine of laying down ass up, dim lights, lubed for any takers. Got fingered once the whole night. I walked around a few times during the lulls and cruised around, most doors were closed/unoccupied. I did find an ass up bottom and went in to fuck him but he was condom-only so I quietly exited the room. Wanna give it another try but am not sure if the club has bounced back fully post-pandemic..? I would have thought that now that WSC is closed and they're the only bathhouse open, it would be rocking like no other place, perhaps I went at the wrong time/day? 
Any thoughts or info from anyone who as been to the ESC since in the past year? Advice on best times/days to go? Anywhere else I should check out for bathhouse-type activity in NYC area?

In October 2021, Manhattan was in the height of the delta-Covid surge. Many workers were still remote and alot of businesses were closed still in Manhattan. I worked in midtown east 3 blocks from ESC during 2022 and midtown did not come back fully post-post pandemic til around gay pride and tourist season in June 2022. Also ESC was heavily enforcing the vaccine requirement which turned away alot of patrons who were not vaccinated in early 2021.

Fast forward to fall 2022 and I would say ESC is actually busier than pre-Covid. There was a lull in attendance in August 2022 during the monkey pox outbreak. I go weekday afternoons and its always pretty busy. I have also noticed the crowd is very different. Many patrons I hear come from the two bath houses that shut down during Covid.

So yes, I would say ESC has bounced back. For bath house type activity I would consider you also check out Rainbow Playground Club and their nightly events.

18 hours ago, pigpozdad said:

Hmmm, move down to ATL,  where we have quite a good scene, which is slowly getting back to normal after covid (cumunion meets on 2nd and 4th Wednesday)

Funny thing, there was a great black club near Club Manifest on Lidell Dr, and I imagined that maybe Lidell traveled from East Memphis to ATL before settling in Manh 

I'm assuming ATL still only has the one bath house, Flex, and no sex clubs.

Is the scene in ATL mostly in guy's private dwellings?

14 hours ago, drscorpio said:

People who get paid under the table still pay taxes when they take that money and buy good and services with it. Doubtless a lot of temporary workers are sending money home, but they still have living expenses while they are here. Also, the payroll taxes that they aren't paying largely go to fund social programs that they have no access to being undocumented. 

That's not the case in NYC.

21 hours ago, Muscledadbod said:

Does Lidell still do parties? I emailed him not to long ago and didn't get a response. 

Sadly Covid and the closure of Paddles ended Lidell's parties. I am wondering where many of the black men who attended his events go now.

I've been to other parties but its not the same welcoming all-inclusive vibe.

Lidell really knows how to have an event where the staff are all friendly with ample refreshments and clean-up supplies. Not to mention he would play that SAME scratched house music CD at every event. I knew the mix by heart.

Also Lidell would always personally greet guys with a warm hello and small talk where he remembers everyone's name. I consider him to be an icon of the NYC sex party scene.

The stereotype that gay men are very neat and clean is TOTALLY FALSE!

On 1/7/2023 at 4:39 PM, BootmanLA said:

It's true that some undocumented immigrants work "under the table" and thus don't pay taxes (which is a separate issue). But official estimates are that 75% of undocumented workers use falsified social security numbers - either one that wasn't ever issued, or more often one issued to someone else. As a result, the wages of that 75% get hit for social security taxes (7.65%, including Medicare) and they'll never be able to claim those benefits. In fact, that's part of what's keeping social security afloat for citizens.

Meanwhile, plenty of rich people pay little or no social security taxes because they structure their income such that it's not "earned" income. Remember that interest earnings, dividends, capital gains, and so forth aren't taxed for social security purposes at all, because they're not "earned". If we simply applied the social security tax rate to all income, regardless of source, the system would be solvent for decades longer, perhaps in perpetuity.

fraud and identity theft 👍

17 hours ago, BootmanLA said:

I question your sincerity. You say "race has always been unimportant" and then go on to say, three different ways, that race is important enough to have a preference:

a) "I did prefer interracial"

b) "black men are my favorites"

c) "a well hung dark black man is my fav"

Hard to square three iterations of declaring a preference for men of one race with the notion that it's "unimportant"; you may mean it's not "required", but that's not the same thing. 

I didn't find anything non sincere about him having a preference. I love all sodas and as a black man I love grape soda more if given a choice. 👍☑️

Lidell had the best parties that attracted some very fine sexy black men. 

I've heard Nubian Dukes has parties still. 

For me I NEVER fuck in an ABS unless I know the bottom previously and if their hole is clean. There is nothing worse than fucking a dirty whole where there are no facilities to clean your dick.

1 hour ago, UncleBull said:

That's something a lot of cocksuckers miss.  It isn't a performance.  You're there to make my cock feel nice.  Nothing worse than someone who tries to suck cock like they're in a porn. A lot of youngsters do that as it's often their only experience until they're retrained.

Remember a friend of my nephew starting sucking me regularly and I had to essentially teach him to be more passive and not lead. He was performing like he was auditioning and he was terrible until he learnt

I have had a few who tried to imitate porn. For some reason they usually imitate the female sucking dick in straight hetero porn with the excessive moaning, (imaginary) hair toss and generally doing way too much.

Ruin't,  routed out holes are the best. Especially when the gape makes that hollowed out negative suction noise.

15 hours ago, Fitanoncumswallow said:

I've been turned down because I'm black more times than I can count, so it's definitely a thing that happens quite a lot, but very few people will openly admit it. While this hit my self esteem in my early 20s, now that I'm in my 30s I can care less. There are plenty of people interested in me. Better to focus on the good than the bad. Sometimes it feels like I'm being ignored because of my race, or I'm being fetishized because of it. You just have to have thick skin. 

 

Now I want to mention that having a racial preference isn't racist and shouldn't be considered racist. Everyone has their preferences when it comes to various things, and just because you don't fit someone's preference shouldn't be a big deal. Just move on.

Did you experience this in your 20s as a top, bottom, or verse?

Seems to be a nutrient deficit some cocksuckers have. Kinda like kids eating boogers or dirt.

My regular cocksucker I supplement always seems rejuvenated and revitalized after ingesting my semen.