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I really hate when a top cums way too fast, but it depends on where I am and what time it is. For example, if I drive to his place, going through all that effort to only get fucked 3 minutes? It's not worth it. On the other hand, if I am cruising or in a sauna, dark room etc. I don't care much, as if he cums fast I have more time to hook with others, that might be better looking and or have better dicks and skills. But if he is good looking, has a great body and dick, and is a perfect fucker, I want him to fuck me for at least 30 minutes nonstop. Anyway, you are very lucky, I have been sexually engaged with lots of men, and I notice A LOT of them, opposite to what we commonly hear, are fast cummers. I'd say about 60% cum in 5 minutes or less, 20% between 5 and 15 minutes, and 20% more than 15 minutes. The longest time I've gotten fucked was for about 35 minutes. I really hope to find a top who can fuck me longer than that.

I'm versatile, and naturally prefer to top. Many times though, I feel like I want to bottom. Even though I eat lightly, it's a pain in the ass going through the ass-cleaning process. I've never had real nasty accidents where the top's dick was fully covered of shit, but, I've thought I was completely clean, yet some minor odor can be smelled, which makes me really uncomfortable. Because of this, many times I get out looking for sex, and even though I feel like bottoming, I forget about it, anyway, it's not hard to find plenty of bottoms willing to take my dick in their asses. So yes, some of us do top more because of the annoying cleaning process.

I'm a conservative kind of guy, tend to be reserved, sometimes shy. Nevertheless, I'm a sex addict, when I'm horny I don't care about anything or anyone. Group sex is a huge turn on for me. I've done very little of it though. I've noticed group sex is pretty much about a bunch of bottoms laying on all fours or slings and a bunch of tops taking turns to fuck them. Neither, tops/bottoms seem to be selective at all, nor really care about anything else going on around them. My problems/concerns, what impedes me from fully enjoying group sex are the following: - I need to feel attracted, at least to some extent, to the guy who is going to fuck me or I'm going to fuck. This is not always easy to achieve in group sex, as some bottoms are face down and the room may be dark. And if I'm the bottom on all fours, tops from nowhere come and stick their dicks in the ass with no advice. If I just wait for someone, apart from the group, most probably I won't get any sex. - If all of the guys in the group are naked and doing the same thing I'm cool, but if, as it happens at sex clubs, some are naked and others are wearing jeans and shirts only watching others, I can't do anything, specially those */*/#$#* people who go to sex clubs with that "you dirty pigs are going to die from aids" look in their faces. - Supposing we are all naked enjoying all together. Sometimes some guys who are way beyond unattractive, that not even at a group sex they get sex, what they do is to stare at your face while you are fucking a guy and at your dick as it gets in and out of the bottom's ass while he jerks off his dick. - If some bitch start a chitchat with laughs and such with a pal of him/her, my dick instantly gets soft. I'd like to ask: - How much do you like group sex? - If you like it, do you get into it no matter what, or you have concerns like mine or others you'd like to share? - If you go through the same torture as me, what you do to overcome it and enjoy, or what would you recommend to do even though if you are cool with any of those situations. - Are there different kinds of group sex where it is not always like what I described?

Interesting thread. When I bottom, sometimes I get hard and sometimes I don't. It's something involuntary, has nothing to do with how horny I am or enjoying it. It can be painful or enjoyable, can be a fatty top or a muscled one, can be a huge and painful dick or a pleasurable sized one, can be a hot top or an ugly one, I can be totally relaxed or stressed, etc. No matter the combinations, sometimes I get hard, sometimes I don't. So staying hard while getting fucked is not a sign of how horny the bottom is, has nothing to do. Some bottoms and some tops have their preferences, some prefer the bottom's dick to stay soft and others like it to be hard. When I bottom, since my dick is above average/big, I prefer it to stay soft, as it's truly a distraction, unless the top asks me to get it hard. I've noticed some tops like to take breaks and suck my dick for a while and then back to fucking me. When I top, I prefer submissive type and/or less butch bottoms to stay soft. If the bottom is not submissive and/or is butch, I prefer him to stay hard while I fuck him.

I am starting to change my mind on this. Yesterday night I fucked a very hot guy, my dick got in him fairly easy yet it felt very pleasurable, warmish and I could feel my dick stretching his ass in each bang. I didn't loose time waiting for him to handle it, nor he complained about it, I fucked him really hard for a long time, which I really like. Also, when I bottom, I'd love it to be more enjoyable and less painful. As asses are not designed to take dicks in it, we must make adaptations to it. When I wrote this thread I was more focused on way too loosened asses, which feel as if you are fucking the air and could take 5 hours to cum because of this. I have never fucked a woman, but I guess this kind of asses I'm talking about is the closest thing to it.

We all have heard and/or read of bottoms saying how nice is to put huge dildos up our asses, the mastery of taking an 11" cock with no pain, and so on. But what happens when you do this? your ass stretches, loosens. I feel some tops also like loosened holes, I read an old thread about how nice used, opened holes look, and how hard they get when looking at them. I feel a way overused/abused stretched hole gives no pleasure to the top. I have fucked guys like that and I feel nothing, * * * literally * * *. Also, it's annoying to see the bottom quiet, as he feels nothing, not a single moan. My ass is pretty tight. I've been told how good it feels. So why would I intentionally ruin it by fiercely fucking myself with 12" thick dildos. To better handle big ones? Morbidity? Self pleasure? I'd skip all of that, prefer to keep it tight for my tops to enjoy it, no matter how much it hurts, and at the same time I enjoy more because you notice when the top is really enjoying it, and can feel the dick better, specially when cumming. I know a way too closed/tight hole is annoying as well, as it can be so fucking hard to get in it, and having the bottom complaining way too much feels like I'm raping him, and while some might get excited by that, I really don't, it's a huge turn off. I love bottoms who complain but are willing to take it, like myself. I've done guys like that, after a few attempts my dick becomes soft because, again, they are so ridiculously tight that all the blood in my rock hard dick gets back to my body, so I quit, tell them "I'm sorry this won't work" and keep walking. So what do you bottoms, tops, versatiles think about this: Is a loosened ass really that great and exciting?

I understand your desire to just do it without asking, is more enjoyable that way. I am the same when cumming in a guy's ass or having another guy cum in me. Whenever I top, when I'm about to cum, I start making some kind of noise as the bottom know I'm about to cum, if he does not say pull out, I cum in him. When I bottom, I never ask for it, prefer the guy to give it to me, if he pulls out, then it's ok anyway. Asking where to cum, or asking the top to cum in you is annoying, less exciting. I wouldn't mind getting pissed in my ass, have never done it, but I've fantasized about it for many years, must feel so fucking wonderful. When you don't know the preferences of the guy you are fucking advance, you should always ask, even though most of us are piggy in some ways, some get freaked out by it, even the most submissive bottom could not like it.

I also get mad at tops who are not patient, I tend to tell them to introduce it slowly and once it's completely inside, to not move, as my ass needs some time to get used to it. Almost never they do what I ask, they introduce it very hard and immediately start banging. As I've read before, best tops are versatile ones, they know how to properly fuck a bottom, as they also bottom. I have a constant dilemma with lube usage. If I use it, I can take the dick easier, feels better. But when I don't use it, only a bit of spit, I love the feeling of pure cum in my ass, not a mix of cum and lube. When I get home, I put a mirror in front of me, legs up and a napkin behind my ass, and force all the cum I got out my ass, It's wonderful!

I'll always stick to large cities. But finding good fucks also depends on how liberal vs conservative the city is among many other things, not so by how many people live in it, so I'd take a large and liberal (or at least, comparing it to other cities of the country), one where there's plenty of hot guys. I forgot about tiny islands, which are even worse, as you are not able to drive far away to find a good fuck, will need a plane, which takes so much time, planning, plus it's so costly. But imagine a much smaller island with very few tourists like Saba (btw, it's capital name is "The Bottom").

I have always lived in mid/big cities, or close to them, so finding guys to fuck is relatively simple. Nevertheless, sometimes it's not as easy as it seems, even in huge cities, some days you get no sex. So as the sex addict I am, many times I don't get what i want/need. Now let's suppose we are talking about a sex addict, who does not have a regular fb and depends on fucking random guys from time to time to get laid. Let's also suppose he lives in a town of 2,000 inhabitants in rural Idaho, Montana, Kansas, Utah, S/N Dakota, Iowa, Nebraska, Alaska, or in any lonely vast region of any country, where the closest fuck could be as far as 10 hours of driving. Some of you guys live like that, or have lived something similar? Or you know how it is like because of friends you have, or some time you've spent in such places? I have always wondered how it is/feels, how they manage their sexual urges, and the simplest answer to that is: MUST be hell.

I forgot to say. NEVER ever wear flip flops at cruising sites, if I were wearing them the two times I ran, I'd be telling you a different story with a very sad ending. I always wear running shoes, they are practical and look good. Also, don't get naked (I've done it, but when in totally isolated places you can see miles away someone is coming, or finding you is like finding a blue grain of sand in the sea), just put your pants on your knees and start fucking, and don't get too distracted, be aware of any noise, constantly look all around, etc.

ohgodpozme--> you were more than lucky, maybe that's an experience you can laugh of today. kodiakCub--> I had no idea it was like that, isn't that sex offender list intended for those who play with underage ones? I do know it goes to your criminal record for some time, not sure how much where I live, maybe 2 years, so yeah, to the traumatic moments one must add to that when trying to look for a job when that is on record. Maybe that's why I ran so much and fast I felt I was going to die, but kept running, I don't fully know the consequences, but I know they are really nasty. HotSeed--> you are brave!

thomas12---> Not much of an open bb community where I live, 70% fuck bb but are not open to accept it, so there are very few guys on bbrt. It's worth asking the most basic questions as likes and sex styles. I've wasted my time many times. For example, I've met guys who only are into sucking. I am not the kind of guy who pushes things, if he's not into getting fucked I won't push it. 5, 10, 20, 40 minutes of sucking, I get SO bored and annoyed. Now I say what I like and what expect from the other person and it's much easier and straightforward.

I'm sad you went through all that eightndeep, thanks for being so open about it. Yeah, police, laws, courts are very abusive, sometimes I feel gays caught having sex in public are treated worse than someone who committed murder. Some states have harsher laws than others, but I think being caught and accused of public disorder, sex, prostitution or whatever anywhere in the USA is hell. In every single state and other countries it's the same, str8s can fuck anywhere anytime and almost always nothing happens, so it's a shame. I haven't read or personally known of many guys who have been arrested, but all of them have said that it was so hard, they were treated so bad, that they have never been back. When I go to such places, I take a lot of precautions, I know there's no guarantee I'll be safe, but at least I'm more confident with myself, as most probably I'll keep going until I have a really bad experience. I never, unless I already know the guy or seen him around; touch him, nor show my dick, nor ask him anything. I tend to carefully watch the guy I'm interested in, if he looks nervous, way to dressed/covered when it's not cold, too good to be true, or just suspicious in any single way, could be a thug looking to do bad things or a police. Besides being arrested, we are exposed to even worse things, so we must always be aware of it. Carefully study the area and the people in it. Take your time, don't rush yourself into having sex with anyone anywhere. I feel more police presence won't make gays stop going to such places, where I live that's done, and gays continue going, sometimes they arrest a couple of guys, everyone knows about it, but they continue going. I've been to beaches, police drive through the sand with four tracks, everyone stops doing what they are doing, then start again once the cops are far away. Same at rest stops at the highways. This is pretty much as having sex bb, as risky as it is, knowing the consequences, and as un-understandable as it sounds to some, it's something we won't stop doing. So for most it's not about going or not going, it's a matter of doing what your heart dictates and being aware of the consequences, and trying to avoid the obvious risks, for example, grabbing the dick to a guy who looks 100% like a typical cop, or to a guy who is trashier than a garbage can.

I have only read awesome adventures about these places, how hot, exciting they are. But I'd like to know about the not so good experiences at them. I have been scared the shit out of me two times. In both, at least, I saw police coming in advance, so I ran as never before in my live, my heart was beating so fast it felt as if it was going to exit through my mouth, and I feel so dizzy and fragile I felt as if I was to collapse to the ground. After that much running, my body hurt for as long as 5 days, as if I was beaten up by 4 guys. Since both times there were other guys around, and few officers, they ignored me. I felt so bad for older and heavier guys who could not do the same and were arrested. But guess what, I continue going to such places, but I only (or almost always ) choose those where there's plenty of space to run/scape, avoiding those that are small, where if in a car, police could block the way out and easily arrest you, etc. I'm not traumatized about it, it actually feels exciting, and I don't care much nowadays, if I could run and escape, I'd still do it, but if I get arrested, I don't care much. It's actually funny, I think of it and really laugh. Have any of you gone through such bad experience, maybe got arrested? How did you manage the situation, were you calmed? After such bad experiences, do you still go to such places or avoid them?

Thanks, I tend to not log in sex sites when using wifi outside, but now I feel more comfortable.

Thanks, English being my second language makes me appreciate it even more. Also, thanks for sharing all of that, thoroughly explaining your experiences and thoughts of it. As for getting fucked, I feel every bottom should be able to take big cocks without sniffing poppers. On the other hand, when getting fisted, poppers could be necessary, specially for those who are new to it, as it must hurt a lot more than a dick up the ass. I forgot to highlight the following: when sniffing it, I did take the top's dick easier, felt less pain, but, at the expense of feeling weird effects in all of my body, which lasted a minute or two, then back to normal. I focused more on the bad/weird temperature rise in my head/face, which kinda scared me, than on how good the dick felt. If there's a natural substance which makes us hornier and feel more pleasure than pain, I'd try it. I've done/tried a few things to enhance sex, but I prefer it natural, painful or not. When I was 20 yo I remember I tried anal-ease, since I was told that it was great to get fucked. I barely felt the dick, but also felt a really bad burning sensation, it's really anesthetic, and the top needs to use a condom, as the sensation is as bad to the dick. So that's me, everything I try to enhance or make sex easier, I end up discarding it.

I have never used any kind of drugs, nor other kind of chemicals to enhance some feeling in my body. A few days ago, I went to a cruising site, and I met a young guy, probably around 25, didn't ask, who was a top and had a big dick. Even though he was not that good looking, he was kinda hot, plus the dick he had, made me want to get fucked by him, even though I'm not much of a bottom. Because of his size, and I'm not so used to bottom, I was kinda afraid. He had poppers with him and offered me some. Never before I'd used it, but since I hear so much that it relaxes you, dilates your ass, and you feel less pain and hence more pleasure, I said to myself, what the fuck, at some time of your life you gotta try different things, this is my time to know what this thing so many guys I've fucked use and even some tops like to use. So I smelled some, about 5 times, in a time span of about 30 minutes of fucking. My impressions: - It made my heart beat faster. - I felt a heat on all my body, specially my head/face. - Made me hornier, but not sure if it really made me hornier or was just in my mind for thinking that since I was smelling it, I could take the dick easier and enjoy it more. - The horny effect after each sniff lasted very little. - I got dizzy when sniffing it, after we were done, I was not dizzy nor got a head ache. My conclusion: - idk how safe or unsafe it's to use that thing. - Would I use it again? No - Why? Because of what I already said. So poppers, along with condoms, are two things I'll keep skipping. Now a couple of questions: - You guys who love poppers, why is it that you love it so much, what's so special about it? - You feel bad side effects after using it? - Are you so addicted to it, that when you don't have a bottle with you, you can't take a dick in your ass because you feel pain, or don't feel horny enough? - Why tops use poppers? Even though I was the one getting fucked, my dick was soft, didn't get hard after sniffing it.

Some fetishes are more easily attainable than others. Being 52 yo, and wanting to be truly loved and/or just fucked by a 21 yo one is very difficult, yet not impossible I know. Thing is, until you finally find what you are looking for, you have to deal with a lot of assholes, those who don't respect others, so if you approach them, they will most probably insult you if they are not interested. So that young fetish is worth it if you are really patient enough, don't get easily offended by random guys' attitudes, and such, otherwise, I'd skip them. I know it's human nature to prefer younger dudes, because of overall better looks. Nevertheless, when we relate more with people of our age range, it has a lot of advantages (I know this is not always the norm, but probably 90% of the times it's like this), you experience the following: - Common things to talk about, common interests. - A 52 yo man is probably is interested in politics and history, the 21 is not. - The 52 yo man like to spend more time at home, the 21 yo prefers outdoors. - You feel comfortable with yourself, unless you are one of the many "I don't give a fuck" attitude kind of guys. - When going to the movies, to the bars, to a hotel, you both look like bfs, or friends, or fb whatever, not like dad/son (which I know is a fantasy to many, but it's kinda hard to show it in public). Even though you are ok with this, the young guy is probably not, even though if he likes you, it's hard for him. - Both feel attraction. -I had a few very unpleasant situations when having sex with much older dudes. On average he was ok looking, I felt I'd like to fuck him. But when we were naked on bed, I felt no attraction, nothing, not even 5%. I use lots of psychology, but imagine those nasty twinks out there, will probably start criticizing your body, your aging skin, etc. So again, is it worth going through that? I know all of us know all of that, but maybe we overlook it and assume the I don't give a fuck attitude. We all were 18 yo. Think for a moment, when you were 18 yo, where you really attracted to guys 30+ yo older than you? Some even pay them, which I think is ok, the young guy is making business and the older man enjoys it. But those 52 yo men thinking a 21 yo one will like them is kinda sad. They would probably love their money. When I'm more open to have a regular fb or friend or whatever, I prefer those +- 5 yo from me, and can be extended to +-10 yo. Things work much better. On the other hand, if at a cruising site, I do guys outside that age range, as it's fuck me or I'll fuck you and goodbye. We wont meet, go out, drink coffee, etc. I wrote this with my pov, I need some kind of connection with the other guy I'm having regular sex with. If I absolutely don't like him I won't get hard, and I won't take pills, nor I'll feel ok knowing the much younger guy is fucking me just because curiosity, morbidity, etc. So, this is my pov and experience, anyone do whatever they want to do, I don't care, as I like that others don't care of what I do.

I have always wondered if there has been a case in court, where the "slave" one sued the master because he got tired of abuses, and since we all know there's not a contract where the slave clearly states his will to be treated like that, and knowing how stupid, absurd, and abusive laws, judges, and courts are, idk, more than a fantasy, which is fine, I'd be a little scared of it.

When I started meeting guys, having sex, going to clubs etc. I was 18 yo (low 2000s), the internet revolution was starting to take place, not so many different and nice sites nor people were so open through it as today, but there were some sites and chat rooms where you could meet other guys for whatever you wanted. Thing is, because of this I'm talking about, I did not get to fully live and appreciate how things were done prior to the internet, as I was still underage. I feel almost everyone, even those who were out meeting guys when there was no internet, now prefer to do everything through this technology. Since low 2000s as of today, I've done things both ways, through the internet and the old fashioned ones. Thing is, I enjoy so much the excitement of doing things the old fashioned way. I love taking a bath, put nice clothes on, without knowing what will happen, just going out to the bar, drink and talk to a few people, then leave and go to the bath house where I can choose from many different options and have lots of sex, and after that I can stop at a cruising site on my way back home for even more sex. And if I were not to have sex, it's just nice to hit the bars, talk with someone, if it works excellent, if not, it's ok, I had a good time anyway, I got out, cleared my mind from everyday routine. Now I'd like to talk about internet. With time, I've gotten so tired, fed up of it as a tool for meeting guys. For example, I have a mobile app to meet guys on my phone, and I get hit many times, or many inbox messages on this other website to meet men, and I tend to ignore them, even very hot ones, as I have become way to lazy having to go through the same procedure again and again and again and again and again and again is so annoying, as you don't know what the results will be, and things could be much simpler if we attach to the rules. For example, if you are up to have sex, then you have to deal with a LOT of different personalities, a few examples: - those that are not so upfront about it, they need to talk with you for 2 hours about your hobbies, where you work, which kind of music and food you like, if you have pets, etc. - those that are really only looking for friends and/or relationship, then when you tell them you are looking for sex, they get mad at you and you get lectured (I'm more than wrong when looking for sex at a web site or app designed to facilitate hook ups, you are more than right, I'm a dirty pig, everyone should be looking for love and friends as you are, you are in the right place, not me) - those that are picky, and even though you look good in pics and even video, start asking things such as; are you toned, you work out, you like protein shakes, you like sports? - the thousand question guys, general ones: you shave your body, how long is your hair, you wear eyeglasses, you have a goatee, you have pubic hair, you have tattoos or piercing. Also, you have to deal with a LOT of liars. They make fake profiles with stolen pics. They lie about age, weight, height, dick size. When, for example, going to the guy's place you met through the internet to have sex with, some get nervous, or ashamed of what they've already done, or whatever, then need even more time to chat in person, as if all the chat through the computer was not enough. On the other hand, when at a bath house or sex club, where you can see a few or a lot of guys all together who are willing to fuck, you just pick the one you like and that's it, no place nor time for chit chat and insecurities. What you see is what you get. I have clearly stated what I'm looking for in my profiles, but it hasn't worked, same s***. You could write something like "I am looking for sex, only sex, again, only sex, one more time, sex", yet getting hit by many love and friends seekers, absurd as it sounds, it's like that. In this time span, I have noticed fewer guys going to bars, bat houses and cruising places, fewer bars to go to. Less organized gay communities. Why all of this? because of technology. When writing this I mostly focused on a sexual aspect. To find friends, I do believe internet is a good option, as you usually have more time and patience to know the guy, and it's actually much easier to make friends than at bars, where everyone is accompanied by someone and/or are too bitchy. Even for sex internet works, as you get well informed of so many things, for example, sex parties in different cities you would not have known of, and you might be interested in attending them. Anyway, I feel I made myself understood, what are your impression guys, when going for sex, which is more practical, more exciting, which yields the best results in the lesser time, which one you prefer: internet/technology or old fashioned ways or a mix of both.

I have read reviews about bath houses in many major cities of the USA, and most good reviews are given to clubs in Chicago, specially Steamworks, so I'd someday hope to try it out. I have been to some others, and I do notice a lot of attitude of those who work at front desk, most tend to look trashy and queer (no offense intended, just my impression), and that's beyond annoying having to deal with them, why don't they hire manly caring guys. Some policies of bath houses are abusive and absurd as well. I once went to this bath house, bought a one time pass plus the fee of a room, then I decided I was willing to stay longer, and I asked if I could buy more time, I thought I had to pay the room fee again, but no, I had to pay the room fee PLUS another one time membership, when I did not leave the facilities, was asking for a time extension I was willing to pay for. But the clerk told me in a bad way "it'd be 36 dollars, for the room plus a one time membership". Of course I left, even though I could have paid for it, it's just such a stupid and absurd policy that I was not going to support them with my money.

I have never been interested in incest, have never done it, nor have willed to do it. Nevertheless, I have always wondered how it'd be like to have a twin brother and to fuck him and having him fuck me. I am in no way narcissistic, I'm not shallow nor self centered, nor think I'm the hottest one around, but something about that fantasy drives me CRAZY.

Reading a response to a thread I previously submitted I saw an interesting reply which made me think. Talking about men's bodies, we all know, that even tops, like big dicked guys. Some like specific body parts; fetishes, like feet, armpits, nipples, and so on. I am native of a Latino country, where big, firm and round asses are more than desired. Those bottoms whose asses are like that get more attention, and even bottoms appreciate how they look on a top. I was wondering how it is in the USA, I have lived/worked and visited a couple of cities, met many guys of many nationalities, and I feel they are only interested in big dicks, not care much about ass, not even tops. So this question is open to all; tops, bottoms, and versatiles: Do you think a big, round, firm (not jelly like) ass grabs more attention from guys in general, or they don't really care as it's my impression?

Being direct is the way to go with any situation, but when dealing with potentially traumatized men we don't know, it's hard to be direct, I've had a couple of bad experience with that, some just can't deal with been directly rejected (even in a nice way) and could become dangerous or make stupid comments, so that's why some psychology is preferred. When if it's online at some hooking up site, it's much easier to be direct, and there's always the ignore button. So I'd say, find your own way of dealing with things you don't like, whatever makes you comfortable.