Say goodbye to Tumblr... Now what?!

[Rancor4]

I have met so many fellow barebackers there...going to miss it.  I hope a replacement emerges.

[boothslut]

Was a law actually passed? I remember the threat was what Craigslist said they were responding to. But I never heard it was actually passed. So what is being responded to by Tumblr? I'm sure our identities are known to the "authorities."

[FJLinNYC]

I had a great gay incest blog and it was completely shut down. Anyone hears of good posting places, let me know.

[drscorpio]

34 minutes ago, boothslut said:

Was a law actually passed? I remember the threat was what Craigslist said they were responding to. But I never heard it was actually passed. So what is being responded to by Tumblr? I'm sure our identities are known to the "authorities."

It became law in April. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Enabling_Sex_Traffickers_Act 

The actual event that apparently led to the decision was Apple banning the Tumblr app from their system. https://www.cultofmac.com/594024/tumblr-bans-porn/

[flacogedor]

I just found out this today as well. It's a shame, because the best porn content was there, and I don't think there's any other website like it. I hope we get something similar soon.

[Guest alwaysready]

they have flagged a bunch of my posts, but left some of the more incendiary ones up.

[ftmbristolukfun]

I'm on tumblr and this isgoing to affect my blog quite dramatically

[pupHawaii]

I think it has to do with Apple - and Apple pulling the tumblr app off the App Store due to child porn.  

All my posts have now been individually flagged - they're still there - but as of 12/17/18 my understanding is they'll all be marked "private" - and no one will be able to see them.  I don't think they are actually deleting posts.  Though they could delete tumblrs.

I had an account on Blogger - and I just reactivated it.  Blogger is owned by Google - and for about 2 weeks in 2015 or 2016 they said they were going to ban NSFW posts - but they reversed the decision before it went into affect.  So for now I plan on going there.  The list of NSFW blogs I use to follow is still there - and some are still active.

My advice would be to check out Blogger, Wordpost, Reddit (there's suppose to be a NSFW section there).

My guess is that tumblr will lose so many users that they'll shut.  But WTF do I know .. ?

BUT PLEASE POST WHERE YOU ARE GOING SO EVERYONE DOESN"T LOSE TRACK OF YOUR TUMBLRS!

 

[pupHawaii]

20 minutes ago, alwaysready said:

they have flagged a bunch of my posts, but left some of the more incendiary ones up.

oddly enough - these 2 posts of mine they haven't flagged which I think is pretty funny - maybe because they're "signs" and people aren't in them:

[Guest alwaysready]

I am assuming they are just beginning

 

[negchaserlooking]

Yes I am already noticing that some of my favourites have disappeared ? . So far those that have "Stealthing" in the title, but I am sure there will be more when I go looking

[Guest neg4POZnw]

Tumblr smut blogs will still remain but viewable Only to the blog owner. I suspect they will eventually delete those too.

It's a blow to boners everywhere. And the announcement comes the DAY I launch a new nasty membership site for fags and hardcore alphas. Next I had planned  on relaunching Pozconvert.com too. So much for that goal. But ...  For those like me involved in creating smaller alternative online communities Tumblr going Big Brother Censorship Happy is a double blow because it's basically the only reliable way to reach/find likeminded dudes.

Let's hope something shows up to replace tumblr. But ... the whole adult industry is under quiet attack. Started with banks/credit card cos progressively expanding their lists of prohibited WORDS on adult sites; now 'tis progressing to companies. Hosting providers are prob next.

If you're wondering who to blame: SJW and Feminist hysterics and contempt for free speech. Oh, and contempt for boners. They hate boners.

[mn6]

Just FYI, there are apps you can run to make local backups of all the image / video posts for which you've ever clicked the "Like" button.

One example is this set of precompiled executables for mac and Windows.  It's not extremely user-friendly, but after some monkeying around, it seems to work for me, it's happily grinding away filling my hard drive.  Any of these apps use Tumblr's API which rate-limits you to 1000 downloads/hour, 5000/day.  I hope the app is smart enough to wait and resume if it hits any of those limits..

I for one will miss these curated streams of porn / erotica, special interest themes, and discovering new types of porn I didn't even know I liked.  There isn't much else out there quite like it.  According to other posts, Yahoo paid $1.1 billion to acquire Tumblr, then was eventually subsumed into Verizon.  Speculative posts are either humorously noting that Yahoo is killing yet another company from beyond the grave, or noting that Verizon hated Tumblr and now Verizon Oath is tasked with dismantling Tumblr, or at least killing off the troublesome annoying parts of it (ie. porn).  Some stats from several years ago suggested that porn was only a small percentage of Tumblr's content, but general consensus seems to be that this had increased considerably.  I guess soon enough we'll see what remains in a post-porn Tumblr world..

Anyways...  Summary: There's a link above if you want to locally archive your favorite Tumblr pics/vids, before they all become flagged /  inaccessible / deleted / whatever.

 

[rawTOP]

SO… I've been thinking of launching a porn & sex-friendly social media site, but was trying to get my new porn sites finished (there are several, but bbbh.com is the one you guys would be most interested in). I'm actually "close-ish" to done with the porn sites. They're complete enough that I've moved all my porn blogs to the new platform, as well as all the commercial videos on my tube site – Raunchy Fuckers. But I still have at least a couple months of work before they're done enough that I can work on something else. I've been thinking about what comes next – I was planning on working on hookup sites next, but I could work on the social site instead, so I spent a while today thinking through the issues of doing a sex-friendly social media site, please give me some feedback on what I'm thinking…

First off, the reason why other people aren't doing it is because of the legal issues. Tumblr got in trouble for child porn, but there's also prostitution and sex trafficking issues as well. (For the record, I'm fine with folks being prostitutes – if it's what they want to do, but the law isn't in most places, and I have to be compliant with the law).

Those legal problems are far bigger on the straight side than they are on the gay side. So for starters I'm thinking if I do a social site it will only be for gay male and trans masculine content. The moment you try to appeal to straight guys (and trans feminine appeals to them), you up your problems about 10 fold. My experiences with the straight portion of this site were crazy. Just a fraction of the overall discussion on the site, but 95% of the big problems (including a call from the London police).

I'd rely mostly on community moderation – much like I do on this site. You guys are excellent at reporting spam and other stuff, and this site wouldn't exist if it weren't for @drscorpio doing so much moderation (I need more guys like him! Any volunteers?) I've been trying to formulate some type of credibility score for users for my new sites. So people who've proven they can be trusted can do more. In this case the "more" they'd do is moderation so problem content can be axed from the site quickly.

The other big issue for Tumblr is that mainstream advertising doesn't mix well with adult content. Even though experiments have shown that adult sites can be quite profitable for selling mainstream products, none of the brands want their ad appearing next to porn. And there's A LOT of money in mainstream – FAR more than in porn. Verizon bought Tumblr from Yahoo! last year and I think Verizon's trying to figure out how to get rid of the porn thinking that will make the site more profitable. Getting banned from Apple's app store was the perfect excuse for them to do what they wanted to do all along – ban porn. Problem is no social site has flourished after getting rid of porn. Getting rid of porn (after allowing it) is always a sign of weakness and decline.

In terms of how I see the site functioning… There'd definitely be both pics and text. On the text side I'd have two fields – one shorter (160 to 255 characters), and one much longer. The shorter one would be visible in timelines, but when there's more you could click through to a blog post.

Pics would be limited to 4 static per post or 1 animated gif.

The question is videos. I'm actually thinking of launching with no (or limited) video capability. I definitely don't intend to be a tube site with long user uploads – but that wasn't Tumblr either. When I get to the hookup sites I'll permit video uploads there within the context of people sharing videos of their own personal sex life. But too often on the tube sites people are just uploading videos they think are hot and not thinking about the legal ramifications.

The gay porn industry seems to accept that videos that are ~2 min or less are "promos". I haven't heard of producers complaining about the 2:20 videos on Twitter. Ultimately allowing ~2 min video uploads is probably where I'll wind up, but I need to do it carefully. Tumblr allowed 5 min videos (though they said no new porn videos a few years ago because they were taking too much bandwidth), but that was pushing the limits of "fair use" and definitely not OK with some producers.

One other option is video embeds – like MyVidster has. In that case they don't host the videos – they're just hotlinking via other sites' embed codes. BUT as soon as I put a page from someone else's site in an iFrame on my site (which is how embeds work) all sorts of undesirable things can happen. I'll definitely let users embed anything that's on one of my sites, but I know they're gonna want more than that.

But beyond that – expect all the standard social features (with some twists) – likes/favs, reposting, conversation threads, etc.

So please let me know your thoughts – how do you think a site like I described would do? Is a gay site too restrictive? What are your thoughts on videos?

[Guest neg4POZnw]

@rawTOP

Do I understand correctly that bbbh not going to be a community site, but rather a porn site?
Also ... Whether it's social or hookup or both, I look forward to seeing what you do next. Though I admit I'm not keen on the trans aspect for varied reasons.  In any case I hope that the close of Tumblr will result in a lot more traffic here, at least from the demographic of guys into this. 

My humble opinion on videos: skip them. Seemed like 90 percent of the porn on tumblr was pics anyway, in part because Tumblr would flag porn vids. I have nothing to back this up but also feel like pics and text increase user engagement because they facilitate more rapid sharing and discussion. A vid slows the user down in a way. Maybe because they are too busy wanking haha Also ... all that server strain is hardly worth it. 

Anyway, thanks for all you do. This site is the best, and a regular reference on "doing it right" for my own--far less awesome--efforts to create alternative online nasty-ass male communities.

Hat's off.