Submissive tops?

[Sharp-edge]

I was wondering.. submissive bottoms are kinda common.. but what about a top submitting to a bottom's wishes? Like putting him a cock ring on, giving him some endless popper hits, using his dick in everyway the bottom wants and feed him with the blue pill. Has anyone considered that?

[manseeker]

Topping from the bottom, not sure how common it is . But any good top would want to use his bottom to the best of his ability after all it is all about the top and him getting pleasure.  But every know and then the bottom can instruct the top say while fisting , push , hold there , keep going , let me take a hit of poppers then push you will feel me open up.  
 

with practice and being familiar with the bottom the top just needs to look into his eyes and he can find  how hard to fuck him when to push his fist  and when he has total control. 

[ErosWired]

“Submissive Top” is sort of an oxymoron - the qualities that make one Man want to top another are not passive qualities. In relationships, certainly, a Top may entertain those kinds of requests or instructions out of love for his partner, and in equally Vers flipping situations, a certain amount of cross-positional play is par for the course.

But as a committed service bottom it would never occur to me to try to instruct a Top that way - our fuck is, and will always properly be, about his pleasure, his satisfaction, and his orgasm, his way. It is a celebration of the traits that make him a Man, and make him entitled to enjoy fucking ass like mine when and how he pleases. Those traits include aggression, dominance, courage, fearlessness, strength, and virility. None of these are passive traits. A submissive may possess some of these traits, but the aggression and dominance will be absent in a true submissive, by definition.

The only scenarios I can imagine that involve behavior such as described in the original post would be a) A BDSM scene in which a sub is being made to fuck another sub by a Dom (or the Dom himself if Vers), or b) a desire by the greediest of “greedy bottoms”, whose sole interest is their own physical gratification and who utterly fail to understand their actual role in the gay male sexual ecosystem.

Suffice it to say that such situations can be expected to be vanishingly rare - as, in my view, they ought to be.

[Riverfk]

It's probably not too uncommon for experienced bottoms to take charge when hooking-up with an inexperienced (or just shy) Top. Nothing wrong with that if it satisfies both parties.

[viking8x6]

Speaking as someone who enjoys the passive role in intercourse (albeit not all the time) but who is not the least bit submissive (except when I want to be), this makes perfect sense to me, and yes, it does happen (hell, it has to or I would get even less sex than I already do!). A lot of time tops need a bit of pushing, especially (as @Riverfk rightly points out) if they are less experienced or shy, or if they are versatile and are assuming that because I'm hung, I'm going to be playing the active role.

[find91]

They are actually called service tops. Tops that like to be dominated used like a dildo etc.

Don't mix it up with a general nice top that listens to their bottom.

Or vers LoL

[funpozbottom]

On 1/22/2020 at 12:58 PM, Sharp-edge said:

I was wondering.. submissive bottoms are kinda common.. but what about a top submitting to a bottom's wishes?

In my opinion, "top" and "bottom" are positions while "dominant" and "submissive" are attitudes. Dominant tops and submissive bottoms are pretty much the stereotypes, but I can imagine a scene where a Master makes his Slave fuck him and pleasure him with a prostate massage. In that case, the Dom would be the bottom and the Sub would be the top.

 

53 minutes ago, find91 said:

They are actually called service tops. Tops that like to be dominated used like a dildo etc.

That sort of puts a new spin on people saying: "Thank you for your service."

[tallslenderguy]

Fun question.

i describe myself as a bottom with a sub streak, and this question figures into it.  While i can reconcile a sub top (or a dom bottom) intellectually, i cannot do so emotionally. i have imagined myself being Dommed into fucking and breeding a particularly smooth, twinkish type ass, but it's hard for me to imagine that person actually being "Dom" more like they were  having me fuck a bottom like Eroswired describes.  And that would be a challenge, the Dom would have to really know me in order to get me hard to do so because the only things that get me hard are associated with me bottoming, etc. 

i too and one of those who cannot emotionally associate top with sub.  Hell, it violates something in me for a Top to take most kinds of interest in my penis. i have had a few Dom guys who got me hard by denigrating my penis in just the right way, calling it a "clit" or little or useless, affectionately laughing at it or making a clear distincntion between the breeding cock they have and what i have.  

It's just pretty impossible for me to put top and sub together as one.

[herenow46]

Yes, way more of an active bottom here. Had an old regular with a huge hard cock. He would totally just do what I told him while I rode his cock in every position I could think of til he shot his load inside me. It was really fun, until I moved across the country. Not that I don't love a power top too, but calling the shots is really amazing. 

[find91]

17 hours ago, funpozbottom said:

In my opinion, "top" and "bottom" are positions while "dominant" and "submissive" are attitudes. Dominant tops and submissive bottoms are pretty much the stereotypes, but I can imagine a scene where a Master makes his Slave fuck him and pleasure him with a prostate massage. In that case, the Dom would be the bottom and the Sub would be the top.

 

That sort of puts a new spin on people saying: "Thank you for your service."

Very perfectly put

[find91]

17 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

Fun question.

i describe myself as a bottom with a sub streak, and this question figures into it.  While i can reconcile a sub top (or a dom bottom) intellectually, i cannot do so emotionally. i have imagined myself being Dommed into fucking and breeding a particularly smooth, twinkish type ass, but it's hard for me to imagine that person actually being "Dom" more like they were  having me fuck a bottom like Eroswired describes.  And that would be a challenge, the Dom would have to really know me in order to get me hard to do so because the only things that get me hard are associated with me bottoming, etc. 

i too and one of those who cannot emotionally associate top with sub.  Hell, it violates something in me for a Top to take most kinds of interest in my penis. i have had a few Dom guys who got me hard by denigrating my penis in just the right way, calling it a "clit" or little or useless, affectionately laughing at it or making a clear distincntion between the breeding cock they have and what i have.  

It's just pretty impossible for me to put top and sub together as one.

Of course you won't it's hard emotional for you get it because you are attracted to dominance and you like being thé vessel for the Dominance pleasure. Service tops are sub's, what they have virtually done is made penetration passive. It is no longer an act being done to the bottom but for. Service oriented individual have issues when people do things for them, because they like get off on service, being a vessel of pleasure and to bring pleasure. Also even the term passive top sounds weak, there is no inspiration of power. Two sub's can be friends but their will be no action between them because they seek the same thing, but are lacking the same as well. The roles are insignificant.

Like you I understand it from an intellectual aspect, but I could never be that. 

All that said it's great when someone finds their true self and can express it.

Edited January 24, 2020 by find91

[funpozbottom]

On 1/24/2020 at 10:24 AM, find91 said:

Service tops are sub's, what they have virtually done is made penetration passive. It is no longer an act being done to the bottom but for. Service oriented individual have issues when people do things for them, because they like get off on service, being a vessel of pleasure and to bring pleasure.

That's a pretty good description of me when I was younger. At that time, I was exclusively "top", however everything I did was for the benefit of the "bottom". I'd kiss, suck, rim, fuck, based on what I sensed my bed buddy desired. I wanted to give him pleasure and would always make him cum before I let myself cum. (I'd actually get annoyed if he tried to make me cum first.) Now, I'm (almost) exclusively "bottom", however my attitude and desire to please remains unchanged.

[NLbear]

On 1/23/2020 at 9:46 PM, find91 said:

They are actually called service tops. Tops that like to be dominated used like a dildo etc.

 

I had a few of those. Tops that lie on their back with their hard dick sticking up or just stand still with their dick out and actually do nothing. Expecting the bottom to back up on it and ride it until he cums. In the end both get what they want: top gets off and bottom gets a load but I don't consider that topping. As @find91 says it's like using a real life dildo. I am not submissive at all but I do expect the top to take some sort of control in the bedroom (or wherever).

[chipygmalion80]

On 1/25/2020 at 9:12 PM, NLbear said:

They are actually called service tops. Tops that like to be dominated used like a dildo etc.

Or just put to good use.

I've put more than a few "big dicked sub bottoms" to use for their dicks. 

Tall lanky hairy guy in college well known for being a btm slut -- well, got him drunk, high, and on his back.  Pinned him down on his bed and road his big hairy dick bare until he popped up my butt.  He may not have forgiven me b/c we still hung out but he kept his distance after that.  LOL

[Guest POZitiveBoyZ]

On 1/23/2020 at 8:55 AM, ErosWired said:

“Submissive Top” is sort of an oxymoron - the qualities that make one Man want to top another are not passive qualities. In relationships, certainly, a Top may entertain those kinds of requests or instructions out of love for his partner, and in equally Vers flipping situations, a certain amount of cross-positional play is par for the course.

But as a committed service bottom it would never occur to me to try to instruct a Top that way - our fuck is, and will always properly be, about his pleasure, his satisfaction, and his orgasm, his way. It is a celebration of the traits that make him a Man, and make him entitled to enjoy fucking ass like mine when and how he pleases. Those traits include aggression, dominance, courage, fearlessness, strength, and virility. None of these are passive traits. A submissive may possess some of these traits, but the aggression and dominance will be absent in a true submissive, by definition.

The only scenarios I can imagine that involve behavior such as described in the original post would be a) A BDSM scene in which a sub is being made to fuck another sub by a Dom (or the Dom himself if Vers), or b) a desire by the greediest of “greedy bottoms”, whose sole interest is their own physical gratification and who utterly fail to understand their actual role in the gay male sexual ecosystem.

Suffice it to say that such situations can be expected to be vanishingly rare - as, in my view, they ought to be.

Wait What? Does that means that when you are fucked then the only your Top got a Fun and Satisfaction? Does that means that you are hate sex and doing this with the only one way to not being a loser in the eyes of Tops? Isn’t? Also, does that means that you’re not associating yourself like a biological “real” Man and thinking that you’re a worst guy then every Top because you’re using your ass hole (“Cuz anal sex is not a natural sex that could lead you to a big issues with disability of keeping your poop is normal”)? Does exactly that means that you’re loosing a respect and love for yourself and life cuz you’re letting Tops to use and abuse you? Or I’m wrong? Sister, you should to find your pride and self-esteem.
 

”Those traits include aggression, dominance, courage, fearlessness, strength, and virility. None of these are passive traits”. So, you sign that you follow the rape abusive culture with sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, slut and bottom shaming, fem and fat rejections, wrong patriarchy standards and sexual role models? You sign that you’re not Equal to Top? You sign that you don’t have a voice to talk and your Constitutional Rights? You sign that Gay “community” has a huge internalized homophobia and self hatred? You sign that Gay “community” has a segregation standards where is the “Musc” culture is on a pedestal and there is no any other chances to being fuckable for “Skinny/Fem/Chubby” GuyZ because of the “Gay beauty standards”? Can you answer me please? If so, then I’m feeling really really sorry for you, your country, your history and your Constitution. If so, then the People of the United States 🇺🇸are a big liars and hypocrites in this World and your “American superiority” means absolutely nothing. Also, could you explain me please this one things: “Porn is not a reality! So you have to stop imagine that every gay fuck should looks like a porn fuck!” Could you explain me please like I’m a 5 years old boy why American Gay GuyZ wants to promote “a very good friendly newish things” outside the community and in the mean time they are still being in a very very far and different way? What a hypocrisy! Does that means that American LGBTQ community just trying to get an acceptance by the straight people and trying to looks like a “normal” like the straight people (like we are the same as you are)? If so then there is a big lies again. Because Gays can not be the same as Straights! And could you explain me please what does that means “the gay male sexual ecosystem“? Who was made this “ecosystem”? Is it the Law with a big arbitrage practice in the Court? Cuz I’m sure that this “ecosystem” was created by the porn industry. Bad news. Your porn industry with it bosses is a dumb haters and a shit! And what’s about the “Diversity” and “Inclusivity”? What’s about “be yourself” and “love yourself”? What’s about “body positive” and “not judging anyone because you could be judged too”? Are you gonna tell me that all of these is just a simple fictions? Or I’m a wrong?