Too much incest?

[Oldercumslut]

On 2/9/2020 at 11:17 PM, Theo8 said:

I've wondered how many of the incest posts are actually true.  I take most posts with a big grain of salt.  I HOPE that some kids weren't sexually abused at the age of 8 and 9 by their fathers or whomever.  I know it happens. 

I lost my virginity at 14 to a guy much older.  He was eventually convicted of sexually abuse and whatever else goes along with it.  I don't think it messed me up mentally.  I think I was messed up before it happened.  I have a long history of depression and I used sex to self-medicate. 

Yeah I was already messed up.  That's how I got into the position to have sex at that age.  And for some the only ones close enough are probably too closely related to us to be socially unacceptable.  To this day I have no idea were the idea came from to bend over and start sucking.  I know it wasn't his idea either.  But he took advantage of it then again frequently afterwords.   Now the adults a little later on definitely fit todays definition of predators.   They set the whole situation up.

[Ocelot2000]

On 2/7/2020 at 7:47 AM, Britnonchaser said:

yeah but people used to post less about it out of a sense of the same sense of apparent embarrassment that you would get anywhere else. 

 

 

I'm sorry, but why should I be embarrassed about what happened to me as a kid? I sure am not, thank you very much. Whatever we experience in life, be it bad or good, shapes who we are today. I am a confident gay man with a great career and a good head on my shoulders. I am not going to back down as to anything that happened to me in the past nor am I going to not talk about it. Do you realize that talking about things actually might help others? I think what you are seeing is people finally able to just discuss anything and everything that happened to them, and that is a great thing to see, not a bad one! That argument you made is also the same argument made by people who do not want to see women talk about their sexual past, be in a good or bad one.

[Guest DetroitAnon]

On 2/9/2020 at 12:15 AM, NLbear said:

I am not so much 'disturbed' about brothers having sex with each other. I don't have a brother but I can understand when brothers are discovering sex and experiment with each other. What disturbs me more is guys who say they were having sex when they were really young, say 9yo or even younger, with their dad or other older men. And enjoy it, as some stories tell us here. At that age you don't even know what sex is. You don't get sexual feelings until you hit puberty. So I don't know if this is real or just a fantasy? If it is real that would be abuse. But maybe that is just me.  

I have no issue with incest.  When I was 14 and curious I played with my 16 year old brothers genitals while he was asleep, but did he stay asleep?  I don't know.  His dick did get hard.  He never gave me any indication he woke up.   I’m wondering how I got my nerve up to do that. He could have gotten pissed off and it could have ruined our relationship as brothers and/or he could have told others to embarrass me and/or told my parents.  My brother is straight.  I love watching porn with twins and identical twins.  I also draw the line when it is an adult and minor under 16.    However, I do think age of consent is a subjective line in solely considering age, as it doesn’t consider maturity level.  I think some 16 & 17 year olds are mature enough to consent.   I love the movies “From Beginning to End” and “Godless”.   Both non-porn movies about brotherly incest. All this being said, I would never have sex with a minor.    I will admit “Strange Thing About The Johnsons” does turn me on.  

[NLbear]

There is a reason why the age of consent is 16 in many countries, Well, at least in Europe it is. At 16 you pretty much know what you want or are. I was still under the impression that puberty hits at 12-13 years of age (shows my age 😉 ). But @rawTOP pointed out it happens earlier now in a reply. Still, I think 16 is a good age. But there are other threads about the age of consent so I don't want to hijack the topic here as it is about incest. 

[CA-master]

On 2/11/2020 at 6:26 AM, rawTOP said:

But yeah, I do wonder about the veracity of some of the stories, and I agree it's sorta gross to tell fake stories that cheapen what other people went through. But it's such a sensitive topic I'd only give an infraction for telling their story in a way that's too erotic. It's never my place to tell them it didn't happen.

I agree with you. I believe most of the stories as I've heard a lot of real things that are beyond what we could believe. we need to open our hearts and minds and not judge or de validate any one's feelings. It's not up to us how people feel or not. I suspect that some stories are fake but you also can tell if you read that faggot other posts. either way I love the topics on this website. I also hate when someone reflects their own feelings on others. It is really rude and not nice 

[CA-master]

On 2/12/2020 at 1:59 PM, Ocelot2000 said:

I'm sorry, but why should I be embarrassed about what happened to me as a kid? I sure am not, thank you very much. Whatever we experience in life, be it bad or good, shapes who we are today. I am a confident gay man with a great career and a good head on my shoulders. I am not going to back down as to anything that happened to me in the past nor am I going to not talk about it. Do you realize that talking about things actually might help others? I think what you are seeing is people finally able to just discuss anything and everything that happened to them, and that is a great thing to see, not a bad one! That argument you made is also the same argument made by people who do not want to see women talk about their sexual past, be in a good or bad one.

Great answer I love it 

[ErosWired]

15 hours ago, CA-master said:

Harsh. Maybe dial that back a bit.

What’s “ruined everything around us” is people who believe they’re entitled to do whatever they like whenever they like wherever they like to whoever they like and be just as nasty about it as they want. It’s legit to point out when the quality of the discourse on a public discussion forum is taking a downward turn. If you don’t hold up some kind of standard you end up with an abomination like 4-Chan.

We can talk about our sexy bareback lives openly and freely here without turning the place into a vile cesspool of obscenity. Whether you like it or not, there are limits on what you can talk about on BZ. Some of them have been explicitly laid out by the site owner and moderators. Others arise from a common shared sense of human decency (an admittedly low bar around here) and a finite tolerance for bullshit - and maybe that’s the most important point. It’s not that most of us are squeamish about particular topics, we’re just sick fucking to death of rolling our eyes at having to read through all the obvious bullshit trying to pass itself off as real, lived experience.

I won’t tell anyone what he can or can’t talk about, but I’ll damn sure let him know that I’m not interested in hearing any of his bullshit.

[BootmanLA]

4 hours ago, ErosWired said:

we’re just sick fucking to death of rolling our eyes at having to read through all the obvious bullshit trying to pass itself off as real, lived experience.

THIS.

I'm as in favor of a healthy fantasy/masturbatory-inspirational life as anyone, but I recognize that it has its place. And that place does not - per the site owner/management, not me - does not include the entirety of BZ.

[T-Girl-Cumdumpster]

theres no such thing as too much incest. theres no better way to become a proficient cocksucker.

[Guest]

On 2/11/2020 at 2:52 AM, ErosWired said:

The accounts that are posted here by members of their introduction to sexuality at the hands of family members distress me greatly, even when the person says he was not negatively affected in the long term. Nonetheless, I read them carefully. I read them so that I can become aware and sensitized to the lives of men with whom I have so many things in common, and yet was spared these experiences.

 I read them so that I can gain a sense of when an account has the ring of truth, and when it betrays itself as fiction. I think that is terribly important, because subtly or overtly, incest changes relationships, minds, lives. I often hear it in the words written by these men, even between the words in which they claim that what happened was, and is, just fine. In the same way, I can hear the hollowness of an invented incest story, and this is my opinion of that - if it is not one’s personal experience, appropriating it for a story for base titillation is vile.

It's rare to read such a sensitive attitude to people's life stories.

And I'm just going to say: "Thank you".

[Guest]

On 2/10/2020 at 10:28 PM, pnwboy said:

Thank you for this. I've had to spend many years keeping my consensual sex life a secret. It puts you in a lonely, depressing state where you begin to question everything and go down a path of self-destruction. Finding people that enjoy hearing about it and who have had similar experiences helps bring you out of that dark place and to not feel ashamed. And believe me, there are SO many guys who had sexual experience with family members. If you're not into it, don't read it. But banning guys from discussing it is not a good solution in my opinion.

Hear hear.

[Guest]

On 2/7/2020 at 6:57 PM, rawTOP said:

No one should be embarrassed either about actual abuse or any of the sex they have willingly. I mean, yeah, sometimes the scene goes wrong to the point that it's embarrassing, but a general embarrassment about being abused or consensual sex? I don't endorse that type of normative sexual repression.

My goal for the site is to help people get over their hangups about sex and approach their sex lives realistically and honestly. That's the only way people can have a healthy sex life. If talking about their early experiences gets them to that place, so be it.

Thanks for creating and maintaining this safe space online. Happy to have found it, read it, beat of to it, left it, came back to it and amazed about the depth of it. Perhaps it just goes to show a man should always follow his hard-on. 🙃

But kidding aside I'm truly grateful for such an openminded and enlightened environment. 

[POZSado]

On 2/7/2020 at 10:25 AM, Britnonchaser said:

Over the last 2 or so years BZ really seems to have turned into a place where people casually talk about incest they had, and sex they had when they were still centuries away from their first pube. Is it me or was I just better at dodging such posts before? I dont think its just me.

Not really a huge fan, it must be peeps trying to be "edgy" in a new way, to replace the fact that only about 7 posters a year actually get pozzed  these days..

Anyone agree. Im not sure if im asking the mods to make a crackdown, dunno how many others agree with me. I came here to hear about hot adult sex, personally.

It's also the most searched on term on PornHub.  You should also get on your high-horse and head on over there to tell people what they should and shouldn't like based on your rules of what should be sexy and what should not be.

I haven't experienced being forced to look at what I don't want to look at on this site. 

"Im not sure if im asking the mods to make a crackdown"   It will be interesting to see if you "make up your mind" on whether you decide that moderators should start removing material that doesn't please you.  It will really show your personality.

 

[tallslenderguy]

Wow, just found this thread and read through all the posts. i'm glad that nothing on BZ is out of bounds, save what's illegal in order to preserve its existence.

my overall take is i don't ever want to silence, lock someone out or isolate them.   my moral/ethical base is whether or not the persons involved have given informed consent, which is a complex topic on its own.  

While we may have to follow laws or social norms to 'survive,'  i can't imagine any informed gay person believing that just because something is a common social standard or law, that it makes it okay or morally right.  Many of us here grew up in a time when gay people were arrested (waves hand) pretty much for being gay. Many were treated as "sick" or "broken" or "sinful" (waves hand again).  That was a torturous time of life for me, and i'm not masochist, so i didn't enjoy it.  Those attitudes stole, imprisoned,  a big piece of my life.  i went through "reparative therapy" when i was trying to de-gay, and it was continuously suggested that i had been molested by my brother who was 13 years older than me and gay.  He never touched me sexually that i can remember, but it's a rationale that so called 'reparative therapists" used (methods that have since been debunked and ostracized) to try and explain why people are gay. Fuck that. 

i don't relate to connect to some of the stuff i read on BZ, but i know that's just a reflection of who and how i am, not something i can elevate to a universal standard or impose on someone else. That would violate my standard of informed consent to impose my standard on another.  

i was married and have a couple of sons. i cannot imagine having or wanting to have sex with them. i never wanted to have sex with my brothers or dad.  i did, however, discover my anus at around age 8 or 9 when a neighborhood boy i had a crush on showed me an enema nozzle and explained what it was for. We never did anything together, but i eroticized what he told me, even at that age, went home, found our eneman nozzle and it became my first dildo.  At that age, i did not have understanding or knowledge of sex, but i had enough of inclination to do that lol.  Who knows where it would or could have gone given the opportunity and knowledge?

The closest i come to incest is i had (have?) a crush on my cousin. He was a year older than me and we played together frequently from about age 10. Nothing sexual, but i definintey had sexual feelings for him, just the kind a kid could have without much knowledge or understanding.  When i was 14, i lived with his family for about half a year, they had a small house and i had to sleep in a sleeping bag beside his bed. The control to his electric blanket was right next to me and i would turn it up to high hoping he would throw his covers off as he slept so i could see his body.  i could easily have had consensual sex with him at that age, and to this day wake up from sexual dreams about him with us both back at that age. 

 

[PowerTopper]

On 8/20/2020 at 12:44 AM, T-Girl-Cumdumpster said:

theres no such thing as too much incest. theres no better way to become a proficient cocksucker.

Well you have no choice but to suck and get fucked by anyone in your family who has a cock. It's your fag duty to give all the cocks booty