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Chapter 10 When Todd wakes me, the sun has set, and Tom is no longer in the room. Damn I must have really passed out. Todd tells me it’s been a couple hours, and you seem good, so let’s get you something to eat. We walk out and over to the pool area where Tom, Jamie and Trevor are laughing over a beer. Tom jumps up and hands me a Gatorade which I down in seconds. Damn, I was thirsty and yes, I needed food. Tom says we got it covered, and he hands both me and Todd a plate of pasta with meat sauce along with another drink. Tom had Craig get this for us knowing how much I love it. I ask them what they’ve been up to all day and Jamie smiles and says, well they’ve all been fucking like crazy, but Tom would only let someone cum if they’d already blown a load in my ass. Trevor adds that Tom shared with them the rest of what furniture I’d ordered, and they can’t wait to come back. This is the most fun they have ever had on a delivery. Now that they have seen Tom’s vision, when they get back to the shop they are going to see to it that a few special details are added to the bed and frame for the sling. As its starting to get late, Todd excuses himself but reminds me to come into the office next Friday so they can test me and hopefully share some good news. As Tom escorts Todd to the door he tells Tom to call if anything changes but I should be good to resume activities. Tom comes back and hands me a scotch and then lights up his dab barrel and takes a hit of the THC. He offers it to Jamie and Trevor who ask what it is and quickly they take a hit of the vaped crystals. I ask for a hit, Tom raises his eyebrows and I look at him and say, man I deserve it after all the fucking and my ass could definitely use it. I take a deep hit, hold it as long as I can and when I finally exhale, I feel the wave wash over my entire body. Jamie groans how fucking horny he gets when he’s high and I suggest to Tom we take this to the bedroom. I stand up, reach for the barrel and take another hit. Tom’s beside me as leans in and tells me how proud he is of my taking the blood slam and knows that we are now bonded for life. Jamie’s now behind me and roughly pushes me into the bed face down. I feel him lift my ass up and he yanks the plug from my hole. Then without a thought of making sure I’m ready, Jamie just fucking slams his cock and body into me. Jamie’s fuck is a complete assault of my ass and I’m fucking loving it. I scream, harder!, make my ass know you fucking own it!, tear me up and fuck the cum deep into my cunt!. Breed me man, convert me with your demon seed! Tom’s beside him and tells Jamie to fucking choke fuck me and I feel his hand wrap around my throat as I groan a loud yes. Jamie is now throwing a violent fuck and I feel my face flush and start struggling for air. Jamie knows what the fuck he’s doing and just as I’m getting light headed he releases his grip. Trevor is sitting up beside us and Jamie slides his cock out of me then pulls me up by the waist and tells me to straddle Trevor and sit on his cock. He then pulls me up and as Trevor lies down, he tells me to ride Trevor’s cock. I climbed on and start riding Trevor. I feel Jamie standing behind me pushing me forward flattening my chest to Trevor’s chest. Knowing what to do, I spread my legs further apart as I feel Jamie’s cock start to pierce my ass, joining Trevor’s cock in a DP. My ass is so destroyed Jamie slides right in. I fucking love this feeling and even know it is further stretching and ripping me up, I just let them take control. I hear Jamie, say oh shit as I hear Tom slurping and evidently eating Jamies hole as he fucks me. Tom makes the familiar sound of hawking up spit and I hear Tom say, ok Jamie, my cock is going to fucking slam into your ass and my thrusts are going to be how you fucking breed him. Jamie screams FUCK as Tom breaches his hole. Jamie stops fucking me as he’s trying to acclimate to Tom’s cock in his own ass. Tom starts slam fucking into Jamie and each thrust drives Jamies cock deep into my ass. They soon develop a rhythm as Jamie become the middle for a fuck sandwich. Trevor suddenly screams fuck, as he cums from the stimulation of Jamie’s cock beside his own. Trevor’s hardon subsides and I feel his dick slide out from my hole. Jamie pulls me up by the waist and somehow Trevor’s slips out from under me. Now it is just Jamie fucking me as he gets fucked by Tom. Jamie pushes me back down into the bed as he now is able slam into me then back onto Tom’s dick. This goes on for a few minutes until Jamie goes, oh shit I’m cumming as he takes one hard slam into me as Tom continues just pummeling his ass. Jamie is taking it like a pro but his cock soon flags and slips from my ass. Tom pauses, stands up and tells Jamie to get out of the fucking way; lifts me and flips me over. Tom grabs my ankles, pulls me back to the side of the bed then impales me. I grab behind my knees as Tom pulls my ass back to hang off the edge of the bed and begins fucking me like the primal beast he is. He’s soon long dicking me and I feel the cold metal of his spiked PA catch on my prolapsed ass as he just fucking slams back and forth into me. Tom tells me he’s not cum since earlier when he came in my ass when Chuck and Drew were still around. That seems like days ago, but in reality, was likely maybe 8 hours ago at the most. I know when Tom’s on a mission and he just destroys my ass as he fucks me deeper and deeper. I wrap my legs around his waist and tell him how much I absolutely love him fucking me. I open my mouth letting my tongue hang out which is his cue to fill my mouth and face with his spit. He repeatedly hawks up and spits onto me then lets his drool slide from his mouth down and puddle onto my face. I tell him to own me, make me his bitch and claim my ass. Fucking breed me man, fill my gut with your viral load. His fuck intensifies as his need to nut takes over. At the same time, I start groaning as the intensity of his fuck, causes my own cock to react. I start bucking from the intensity as my cock erupts from within the confines of the cage with a huge load. Finally, Tom tenses up and I feel his balls contracting against my ass as he delivers volley after volley of cum into my ass. Tom’s face goes purple as his load continues. He goes rigid and his eyes roll back as he just continues to erupt inside my ass. As Tom’s orgasm finally subsides he tells Jamie to shove the plug in as quickly as possible. As Tom pulls out, my ass actually sprays a jet of spouge from the amount of cum in me. Jamie hurries to cap the flow as Tom collapses beside me and tells the two of them to clean us up but make sure all the spoils of cum goes down my throat. Trevor goes down on Tom, cleaning his cock then snowballs the load into my mouth while Jamie collects what he can from me, my balls, ass and the bed and then feeds it to me with his fingers. I eagerly accept all that is offered and as they finish, I tell them that was absolutely amazing. Jamie comment’s his ass is probably wrecked for a few days and he’s going to be walking funny for a week. We are his favorite clients by far. Trevor agrees and says this has been awesome and can’t thank us enough for such a good time. Tom tells Jamie and Trevor they can sleep in his bedroom which is downstairs in the casita and tells them where extra towels are so they can clean up. The guys, give us both a kiss and tell us they’ll be back in maybe three weeks. Jamie tells us it’s a two-day job getting everything assembled. I tell them they are welcome to stay here if they don’t mind doing a bit more than just assembling the furniture. Jamie, gushes, hell yes man, you know we can deliver. With that the guys leave. Tom says he’ll meet me in the shower and tells me given the shape I’m in I need to text my assistant that I’m still not feeling right and will try to get to work on Friday. Tom’s soon back with my phone and a couple drinks that he places on the counter. He joins me in the shower, enveloping me in his arms. I tell Tom I could just stay here in his arms forever. He slaps my ass and then starts washing and rinsing me off. He tells me to step out, dry off and text my assistant. After texting her, I scan and find a text from my buddy Jason from Chicago asking I call him when I get a chance. As I set the phone down Tom dried off and pulls me into a kiss. Tom reaches behind me onto the counter for something. He has a key and says to me; I don’t think you need this anymore as if you aren’t positive now it’s not possible. He unlocks the cage and slowly releases my cock from the confines of the cage. We head back to bed and Tom pulls me into a spooning position and while I wish his cock was in my ass rather than the butt plug I quickly fall asleep in his embrace. I’m awaken at 9:30 by my phone buzzing. Looking at it, I see my assistant is calling and let it go to voice mail. I feel like a truck has run over me and my ass hurts like hell. Tom rolls over and pulls me back into him. I can feel his morning wood, but he’s defeated from entering my ass by the butt plug. He says, shit, lets get this thing out of you so I can load your ass. He stands up and says let’s head to the shower. Tom says, he’s sure all the toxic cum has converted me by now, so let’s see how much you absorbed vs. what needs to come out. He tells me to bed over onto the shower bench so he can remove the plug. Warning me it’s going to hurt, he starts twisting it to loosen up and as he starts to pull out, it feels like he tearing my ass and pulling it inside out in the process. Telling me to bear down, Tom firmly pulls, and while it burns and stretches me like crazy, I finally fell the plug pop from my ass. With the stopper removed, a flood of nasty, red, yellow, and white liquid starts a cascading like waterfall from my wrecked hole and splatting on the floor. I figure there are at least 8-10 loads in me, that didn’t leak out upstairs and am astounded by the puddle slowly working its way down the shoer floor. Tom tells me to continue bearing down and my ass starts convulsing as I eliminate 2-3 cups of the fermenting ass juice. Standing back, Tom is just as amazed and comments, my ass is so fucking prolapsed, with bright red lips surrounding my gaped hole. He tells me he can fucking see inside my ass from the gape and tells me he has to fuck me. Telling me to turn around and lay back on the bench, he grabs my legs, spreading them and tells me to hold behind my knees. I feel his hard cock slide up my wet taint gathering remnants of the toxic brew for him to use as lube. I barely feel him enter as my gape must be just slightly smaller than his cock. He’s balls deep in a single thrust, and I groan as his cock and the PA slides over my prostate. I slightly wince as he opens my second hole entering my sigmoid canal as his balls slam into my ass. While my ass still hurts, I love taking this man’s cock so deep. He starts pummeling and I see my freed cock stiffen like a rod of steel. I’m so hard that it hurts. After just five strokes, I feel my cock erupt hands free, expelling 4 days of stored cum. My balls contract so much as they eject my load that I groan from the pain. Tom doesn’t let up for a second and is slamming into my ass like a man possessed by a primal need to impregnate my hole. His pierced cock slams across my prostate and goes deep up the sigmoid enough that my stomach actually flexes from each assault. My eyes roll back in my head as I’m overcome by this rapture of my sole. My cock remains hard and I’m leaking clear precum as his assault continues. After about 10 minutes his pace suddenly intensifies and as he screams he’s cumming, my own cock starts spewing like a fountain and the pulses of cum blast from my cock and land on my face and chest in what is surely the largest loads I’ve blown in years. Tom’s own cock is spewing volley after volley of his toxic brew and his massive load is bursting around his cock as the deluge fills my ass and escapes with his continued thrusting. As Tom leans down into me, his cock slides out of my hole and splats on the floor as my ass spasms and pushes out the excess cum he’s doused my hole with. Tom leans into to kiss me and laps the cum on my face as feeds it to me as his kiss deepens into a full tongue fuck of my mouth. Tom turns the shower on and once warm, pulls us both under the water to rinse off. He grabs the soap and washes my body. I feel his fingers at my ass as he pushes 3 into my hole as his thumb works the prolapse. As his fingers exit, he pushes around my hole resulting in my prolapse lips sliding back inside. After exiting the shower and drying off, he guides me back to the bed. Tom tells me to text my assistant I’m starting to feel a bit better and I will call her later this afternoon. While I do so, he heads back to the bathroom and on his return hands me several Advil and tells me they’ll help. Tom is standing beside the bed, and I can’t help but admire Tom’s muscular body, his ink and his amazing huge cock. He’s changed my life and can’t think of a better person to do so. He tells me he needs to get ready and leave for work. As Tom turns, I admire his muscular ass as he starts to leave the room. He looks back and says he’ll see me this evening and it’s time for me to breed him. I get hard as I contemplate how I’m going to return the favor from what I’ve been through in the past couple of days.

Holy fuck what a hot story!

When I lived in London I sucked a homeless guy under the bridge in Chamber Street (Tower Hill). He was asking for money outside of a sainsburys around the corner, we got chatting and walked together for a bit, one thing led to another and conversation turned to sex, and 5 minutes later I was throating his cock at 9pm on a Monday evening

You can suck tops just fine at meat market. There's also the sauna which has a 'suckatorium', and drakes.

Chapter 5 Back at the room. Round three’s coming. Excitement. Heat. He kisses me. “Poz Dad.” “Poz Boy.” He pulls off my shirt. I take off his pants. I suck him. Taste him. Some of that last poz load still on him. Hot. I strip completely this time. Naked. No jock. No socks. No bracelet. He pushes me onto the mattress. I lie on my back. He slides in easily. “Poz Boy.” “Poz Dad, give it to me again.” Eye contact. He fucks. Slow. Deep. My hole’s open. His boy—me—is wide open. Florian fucks longer this time. Deep strokes. Slow strokes. Intense skin contact. Kissing. He suddenly drives his cock powerful into my pozzed asshole. Four times. Really hard fucking now. I'm screaming. Florian cums. Proud. One more time. His poz cum in my hole. He: “You’re a poz cumdump now. You’re mine, poz boy.” Me: “Yes, Dad. From now on, I’m your cumdump. Do it. Make it real. Forever.” He: “From now on, you're everybody's poz cumdump.” Me: “Yes. Finally.” I stroke myself. He watches. He: “I want your last neg load.” He takes me in his mouth. I can't hold it anymore. I cum. It won’t stop. Spent. We lie on top of each other. Later I get up. Go shower. He follows. Warm water. Sweat runs off. His cock at my crack again. My now—hopefully—toxic cock gets hard. He slides back in. Massages it all in. He lathers me up. Massages my dick. He rinses me off in the shower. I'm in his mouth again. I cum again. He swallows. He leaves the shower, grins. He’s looking for something in a bag. Comes back. Florian:"Now, take your shower, Henning. I leave this toothbrush here for you. You know what to do with it." Just before closing the door, Florian smirking: "And only come out when it turned red." Already poz? Who knows...

A guy wanted to fuck me in my pink latex outfit! I ended up taking his fist and his load like a proper whore!

Hood, harness, jock and socks! Oh and guys love to grab the leash for a good hard ride!

Away at gay camp for the weekend. Im still a semi-new face here but have already gotten a reputation as a bottom for couples to fuck and breed. Walking shirtless in just a jock socks and shoes On my way to the fuck-shed/dungeon-cabin I get waved over by a familiar face, a handsome silver-bearded Daddy with a sweet smile who was hanging with a tatted jock, a beefy ex-frat boy and frat boy's tall bf. We start chatting for a few minutes when suddenly the Daddy comes up behind me, starts grinding his dick in my asscrack, and pulls my arms up over my head. Immediately frat boy and the daddy dive into my sweaty pits and I feel the dick at my ass get bigger and rock hard. I gladly find out how dominant and rough the daddy with the sweet smile can be as I get fucked by him while dangling off his porch. After some repositioning and sucking his guests dicks as well I hop in the sling out back and get gangbanged by all four studs as they swap in and out of my ass. The daddy ordering me as the "dirty cocksucking slut boy" to clean off each dick everytime one pulled out. They pounded the fuck out of my ass and by the end I was drenched in sweat and their cocks all tasted like cum when I cleaned them off.

Outhouse on a forest trail. Didn’t know the guy and the smells in there were horrible, but we fucked like animals in heat.

It was so hot... risky and very dangerous but hot. I got whored out all night by big dicks - truly one of my filthiest and raunchiest experience.

This is so hot omggg

No, but the priest at my neighborhood church is so hot and has a devious look to him. I've always fantasized about worshipping his cock on all fours and letting him breed me... one could only wish.

Anyone in the Humboldt area looking to poz a neg 22yo unmedicated guy?

I think you have a point @Rillion, but I interpret Trumps crazy talk as having a purpose that bidens crazy talk lacked, it comes across more as a destabilizing negotiating technique, whereas Bidens crazy never advanced negotiations. But I think Smart people might disagree with me and have great insights. But theres definitely something more EFFECTIVE about Trump than Biden, for better or worse (my perspective but enjoy when people see it differently than I)

I too admit I LOVE cheating. Being fucked is the BEST feeling ever and if the tops that fuck me are also cheating it's a mind rush for sure. Just something so "primal" about it and the fact that "monogamy" is a made up thing makes it all the better! Getting home before my bf gets off work so I can look all innocent while him not having a clue that I'm full of nut from other guys is the best too. . . .:) Pretty skilled at it too I must say. . .somewhat of an art. Only been caught twice. . . .once by a guy I had started dating for like a week and was super cute but couldn't fuck me right. He had stopped by and fucked me one day and after he left I got back online and within 20 minutes had another hot guy (with a HUGE dick) that knew how to fuck balls deep in me. I was on my back legs up and after about fifteen minutes of having him in me, I was in such an oblivious mood that I didn't notice the guy I was dating had walked into my bedroom. He freaked out of course and was like "WTF, seriously?!" I didn't care. . . .and knew the guy screwing me could take him easily if he started shit so I looked right at him with a cocky smile and said "Sorry Nate, but notice this guys dick. . . .it does to me what yours simply can't - bye" He left still cussing but that guy I had cheated on him with became the next boyfriend about two weeks later. Needless to say I cheated on him of course too but he never found out. . . . . . 🙂 The second time I was at an after hours party and high as fuck when my friend's boyfriend hit on me and asked if he could fuck me. DUH!!!!! He took me upstairs to a bedroom and within five minutes or so he was balls deep in me and we both were loving it. That is til about thirty minutes (and his first load in me) later. . .he was back in me going for round two when the door opens. Thinking it was another guy that wanted to three way with us, I said "come get some stud." The voice I heard reply was my friend saying "Clearly my boyfriend is already giving you that." We stopped for a second and looked up and he had already walked out. I said "Dude, you ok?" He said "I am now" and kept fucking me. He busted his nut again and then we left together with two other guys to continue the night! 🙂 LOVE IT!!!!!! 🙂

That is so hot!

You have the most beautiful hole. I can just imagine my mouth and tongue all over it before I load it up with my fat cock.

Time travel back to the summer between primary school and secondary school when my older cousin introduced me to 5-6 of his secondary school classmates. I sucked my cousin in front of them and they took turn cum in my mouth. After I started secondary school I met them almost every day after school and I swallowed many litre of their cum and piss. While in real life we only did oral and none of them ever fucked me in the my ass, my fantasy would be that my cousin took the first step to break my ass and then they took their turn. So I would have my ass broken in at least 3 years earlier.

I'm always curious what a guy is including when he says he's into Mansmells. I love musky pits and balls, so I tend to specify that instead of use the more ambiguous term. I've enjoyed some guys feet, but that's a lot more hit or miss for me. I also like recently cleaned sweaty hole, but not dirty hole, so part of me always wonders how ripe a guy wants a hole to satisfy him. So how about y'all, what do assume is included in a Mansmells fetish?

Contributions to your GoFundMe account wouldn't be deductible as a charitable contribution (in case anyone wondered 😉).

An armchair at the corner of the room turned to face the bed. Uncle nodded toward it, signalling me to get comfortable. I sat down with both my hands clamped on the armrest. Knuckles exposed, I see my right pinky twitching involuntarily. The other guy who was behind the Asian twink turned his head back to off to look at me, then to Uncle, asking him if I was next. "No, not tonight Paul. That's my nephew. He's still new to all of this. " "That's fucking hot" the Asian twink added, still bouncing. Paul was a bit older than Uncle. Mid-50s with a smaller frame. His furry back glistened with sweat that drizzled off at each thrusts he made. It wasn't just the droplets I see falling on the sheet that turned me on further, it was also the raw stench that filled my nostrils. He was faster than Uncle who held the twink on both sides with a steady rhythm. Both cocks rammed into the twink with the single thread of his g-string in-between. Uncle then tilt his head sideways to see me. "Feel free to help yourself, Brad. You've used a bong before right? Kinda of the same idea." I looked at the study table adjacent to me and there was a bong with a bowl that's shaped like a bubble in glass and a torch. I picked both up. Uncle instructed me on how to light it, never breaking his gaze even as the twink slid himself up and down of both men. "Not too close or else you'll burn it" Once I the vapour filled the glass, I inhaled deeply. It was less harsh than weed would've been. I held it in like Uncle told me to, counted til 10 and exhaled. P "How does that feel?" Paul asked. I nodded, telling him it's good. I was electrified again. I paid more attention to the threesome happening a few feet from me. My cock was still limp but I knew I was turned on. He continued. "You see this fag here? Watch and learn. Soon it'll be you, right Abe?" The twink was too spun to hear or care. He only kept bouncing and moaning as he had. Uncle responded. "If he wants to, don't you Brad?" "I mean, yeah but up to you Uncle." Paul interjected. "The boy calls you Uncle? Fuck Abe you're one lucky bastard. Makes me close to coming." Only then the twink was lucid. "Yeah, breed me again please daddy" Uncle held him tighter, asking him how many loads he has taken. "9 before I got here, probably 15 now. I don't know" "18 boy..18...and Paul's going to be the 19th...and the 20th is going to be me" "Oh fuck yeah" Immediately they moaned in unison and a cry of ecstasy erupted out of the twink I remained in my seat, rubbing my limp cock as if its going to change anything. "That's enough for tonight, fag. What do you say Paul?" "Fine by me. You think your boy there can clean him up? He's learning isn't he?" Paul looked back toward me. Uncle then added. "Oh I know he wants to. Come over, Brad. You know what to do. Come on fag, party's over. Hold it in." The twink straighten his legs to detach himself. A tiny trail of cum flowed down his balls. I didn't hesitate to get on the bed. I was still in my tanktop and shorts. I got closer to Paul who pulled away from the twink. He inserted his finger to feel the warm cum, pulling it out to feed it to me. Uncle remained on his back, hands still held onto the twink's hole to lift it up. I went in without a second thought. I had never done this before. The substance I had smoked compelled me to do it. It was as if I was on autopilot. I slurped and swallowed the cum pouring out of the twink by the quarts. It gushed out faster than I could gulp, spilling out of the edges of my mouth to coat my jaw and neck. Uncle then pulled the twink away from me. "That's enough for tonight. Don't be greedy. Leave some for Paul" "Oh don't mind me Abe, I'm enjoying the view of the feast as it is. The fag's all yours. I'll just have some afters" Paul held my shoulder and turned it to face me. He grabbed my head with both his hands to turn it up and licked the cum on my face. His tongue grazed from my cheeks down to my collar bone. It went back up to then intrude my mouth. His tongue slithered with mine before he pulled back to clasp my mouth open to spit into me. I then hear Uncle Abel speak. "A+. That's all for today boy. Go back to your room. Let us finish the rest. Give me your uncle a goodnight kiss." I ducked to get close to him and he gave a smooch, tasting whatever cum that's drying on my face. I quietly shuffled to go back to my room. Back on my bed, I tried to turn the TV on, pressing any button I could to see if there was more of what I had watched. The screen lit up, showing David sitting on a stool. Hunter and Frank were next to him. They tell him that he's officially a part of the family and that he's ready to build new bonds. "There's another boy around your age who's been begging to be next. Wanna test your stinger? Name's Greg." Jackpot. I can't wait to see how this one will be like. I don't care if I can't jerk off or come. All I wanted was to watch more. Understand Uncle more. It took a while, but eventually I not only learnt but mastered the lessons that Uncle was about to subject me to.

It sounds a little bit encouraging.

There have been ample documentaries that have depicted areas like the National School Lunch Program (NSLP), and the trail that basically says that lunches are provided, but the content ends up being down to the local districts. Taco Bell Tuesday anyone? [think before following links] https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/blog/usda-foods-local-roots-dod-fresh-connects-farm-school#:~:text=This became a matter of,1946 by President Harry Truman. The history is in the link, as well as how the DoD became a component of it. But the question of 'what' kids are getting in their school lunches often leads to an answer of "whatever is cheapest" or "wherever big food can control the composition". Lots of school systems are providing fast-food lunches rather than something made on premises or at least healthy, and since big food & beverage provides money to schools for programs (like the scoreboards for football, etc.), you see Coke or Pepsi being made available by one or the other on school grounds. And not always their healthiest options. So there's the corporate capitalism approach. State-owned/state-controlled? If we had guidelines that didn't consider ketchup as a vegetable (anyone recall that from the Reagan era?), we might get somewhere. No simple answers but the current path isn't great. Michelle Obama had some ideas around that, but the execution left a lot to be desired. [think before following links] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2863508/Prisoners-eat-better-food-Students-slam-Michelle-Obama-pictures-disgusting-lunches-served-schools-America.html [think before following links] https://www.businessinsider.com/students-tweeting-awful-photos-school-lunches-michelle-obama-healthier-meals-2014-4 [think before following links] https://nypost.com/2014/11/23/kids-thank-michelle-obama-for-mystery-mush-school-lunches/ [think before following links] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2803961/Thanks-Michelle-Obama-filling-lunch-Student-photos-paltry-school-lunches-raise-alarm-social-media.html Doesn't that make your mouth water? Wait...let me rephrase. That doesn't make your mouth water. No easy answers, but not a lot of thinking either.