LetsPOZBreed

I love when old threads are resurrected. Interesting to see how the comments have shifted over time with new members joining, others falling away, etc. Honestly, I don't ascribe to these "top" rules; even when I'm actually doing the topping. I think any successful sexual encounter is about a mutual level of respect for the guy(s) involved. If I'm topping, yeah...I want to be in the drivers seat for the session. Not that I'm going to order you around or anything (unless that's agreed on beforehand). But the idea is that you're letting me give you that kind of pleasure. Yes, I want to play with your hole, rim your hole, and finger it (within reason). That, however, is just to get warmed up to the actual event. And based on my countless experience as a bottom, I tend to fuck guys the way I like to BE fucked by guys. So, yeah...I'm going to insert and let you guide me in however you feel comfortable. And I'm going to work through at different paces, intensity, positions, etc. All while paying attention to the feedback you're giving me. If I'm fucking you, it's about YOU; I get off getting you off, if you will. Consequently, as a bottom, I take the time to prepare for a session. Nothing chaps my ass more than getting all that work done only to be disappointed by what happens (or even IF it happens). So, yeah. I'm going to clean my flat before you come over. I'm going to have the lube out in a place that's easily visible for you to grab and use. I'm going to have a towel nearby just in case. And I insist on eye contact during a session. I want you to see how much I'm enjoying you fucking me...and give you those unspoken words to give you direction on where to go - more, faster, slower, hard, rough, intimate, etc. This is the same behaviours that I enjoy from guys who bottom for me. My only rules nowdays are to be respectful, don't break limits, don't take it too seriously, and just have fun. We can even make each other laugh for a bit, then get right back into the intensity.

I didn't use them at all for a while. Got into them more when I was a regular sauna attendee, but have recently gone off my dependence on them when bottoming. I know it's fairly prevalent with the bottoms at the saunas here - even tops carry them (which knowing how that can affect an erection is kinda disappointing). Honestly, it's all down to personal tastes. If you don't want to use them - don't. No one is going to judge you for it.

As a roleplay scenario, this is pretty fucking hot. But I would never do it outside of that context. I will say that I've started to stick to this concept of "one squirt, all squirts". Basically, a bottom has up until the moment I start shooting to say no (and I'm upfront about that before a session starts so we're both aligned). But once that first shot goes in, it's too late. If you've taken that first squirt (usually the 1st or 2nd most voluminous of them all), then you've already gotten a good portion of the load already...might as well go all the way.

I love this post. Thanks to the OP @Philip for starting this thread. I came of gay-age in the mid 1990's. HIV and AIDS were still the big elephant in the room regarding gay sex and dating. There were fishbowls full of condoms at the gay bars, and they got properly used. It was incredibly common to ask your sexual partner if they had any protection ahead of anything starting - and I remember walking away when there was an answer of "no". Too many gay men knew too many others that succumbed to the disease, so the barebacking scene was underground and/or unspoken. That prob started to change about 5 years in. It started to become easier to find "recent" bareback porn videos to watch. I always wondered what it would be like, but never really wanted to take the risk. Sure, I had a couple early instances of getting fucked raw (one really good experience, and one really NOT good one). Just didn't feel like taking that risk as there was still a huge stigma around poz guys. I didn't really start barebacking regularly until I was nearly done with college around 2005. It was with a regular fuckbuddy that used condoms previously - we didn't have one on a particular night and figured we'd just go for it. Never looked back when playing with each other. There was a risk, sure; we weren't exculusively playing with one another and had other playmates. While I might have played wrapped with my others, I didn't really ask about his practices. So, yeah...there was a risk, but thankfully nothing ended up happening. When I first started barebacking full-time, I wasn't really being all that slutty. At least not until I started attending regular bareback parties at this one guy's house. There was a small stable of us "regulars" there with the occasional newbie. Never really caught anything from them either; most guys there were UD or neg and would test regularly. Still a risk, yeah, but we mitigated it as much as possible. I didn't get super reckless until I started drug use. And sure enough, that's when things went off the rails. I was being so indiscriminate about it that it was kinda crazy. Wasn't really "chasing", but not really asking either (nor would I have probably cared either way). Some months afterwards, I wound up with a case of syphillis and converted over to being poz. Not the best experience, really...really bad night sweats, complete loss of appetite, etc. I'm lucky in that was all I'd managed to contract, though. These days, despite my profile name on here, I try and be really careful about playing bareback. A big part of that is just because my views on sex have changed the last couple years (I made a separate long post about this some months back); but also, I'm not really interested in taking chances with another guy that appears to be reckless about his own status - namely, the guys on the apps who have "not sure" or "don't care" in that box. I have played, and yes there's still further risks involved, but I've managed to avoid any other nasty bugs over the years as a result. If the last few years of COVID and MPX has made me realise anything, it's that I'm not willing to put my health in danger for an experience of potentially questionable quality that I'm going to regret.

I've had the listen over voice call before. Though, the guy didn't offer to pay me for it...(not that it would have made a difference; it was a "no" regardless). Don't get me wrong, if I happen across hearing natural sex sounds, I'd be really turned on. But part of that thrill is the fact that the couple is unaware that I've stumbled upon them in their natural fullest. The minute there's an agreement for me to "watch", it becomes a bit too much of play-to-the-camera type porn which just seems unrealistic.

So, I've heard of these cuddle events. I'll be honest, if I'm in the mood for just that, then I'd go. But if I'm at the saunas, this is the last thing I'm willing to settle on. This convo is going on at just the right time. I went to one of my local saunas last night - was relatively slower than usual, but I still got some action. Ended up having quite a good session with a guy; went on for a while. Figuring that things would have largely died down toward the end, I didn't think I'd get any other play for the night after we were finished. He asked me if I'd cum in his mouth - agreed to only on the provision that he kiss it back to me and that I'd be too tight for more fucking after that. He agreed...finished fucking and loading me, then we did the afterplay to get me to cum. Actually was a great finish to the night. Had the sex not been good, I'd have just tapped out at some stage; however, I felt the need to reward my top for a good fuck of the night. 🙂

As I've gotten older, I find guys aren't as good at this as they used to be (by and large). I absoltuely loved giving a guy this when I was younger (and still do, considering he's "prepared" for it); had a really good regular FB in uni that could eat ass for days and make me want to get fucked SO BAD. Not really sure what's behind this. Either they take it too literally, as the OP said - or they are a bit too scared of tasting "something". the ones that are barely on it and barely give a few licks thinking they've done something. Those guys make me feel a bit self-conscious; I do prepare myself for the occasion, and it gives me pause to think I might have missed something. I think it's just a mental block on their part, though.

I like afterplay too, but whether or not I want it depends on the vibe and place. Usually, afterplay is the kind of thing I reserve for at-home hookups; even still, you have to be a good fuck to make me want that. That being said, there's a biological explanation for the loss of sex drive immediately after ejaculation...called the refractory period. It's doesn't last forever, and depending on the guy, it might not last more than a few minutes. If it's a hookup that wasn't that great...this is when I peace out. If I'm really into the guy and he's a regular playmate, this period is the cuddle period. If I'm at a sex club/sauna, it's been known to happen where the guy and I will find a way to relax with each other for a few minutes afterwards. It's kinda nice for a little bit, but then you want to move on to the next opportunity.

Note to moderators - I wouldn't consider this hardcore, but happy to move this if needed. Over the last couple years, my interest in spanking play has gotten much more intense. I've only done very light stuff with it in the past; maybe the occasionall smack on the ass when getting fucked, and I did spank a (legal age) boy I played with a few years ago - but nothing too intense. However, I've been wanting to get into a proper adult spanking session. I've joined the Whappz app; had a couple introductory messages, so we'll see if anything pans out. I'm also planning to head to one of the spanking fetish nights here in London to check out the scene as well. I'm nervous about it, but one good session will get rid of that I'm sure. Question for those of you who have done it (more the receivers, but happy to hear from everyone): What was the experience like? I've read this quote regarding the moment your reactions change from "cries of anger" to "cries of repentence". That moment where your sounds indicate that you've fully given yourself over to your spanker. Also, any advice you can give a potential first timer (for a real proper session, not just the occasional bum whack)

Depression leading to barebacking? In hindsight, yes... I wouldn't go so far as to say it was proper bugchasing; although, I knew conversion was a real possibility. This was long before PrEP was a thing, so it was kind of inevitable. As to why it lead there? I'm sure I'd need a number of therapy sessions to uncover that. But the shortest guess I can take is this. It started out with a regular playmate where we ended up making the decision because neither one of us had a condom at that point; figured since we'd had sex countless times before - why not. And we never went back. By that stage, though, I also thought that if I even suggested going back to condom use that we'd stop playing. So, yeah, there was also a bit of a self-esteem issue at play. I did move cities a couple years later, and from that point onwards, I just knew that I wanted to just be an unashamed barebacker. Actually converting took longer than you might think. Happened about 4 years later. Likely cause here was that I'd been playing with guys who were either neg/UD up until a point, so there wasn't any real transmission. But once I started into some drug use, I became much more indiscriminate about looking for sex. My best guess of the guy who likely converted me were guys who were recently pozzed also and hadn't yet begun treatment. A part of me realises that I changed many things about my life after becoming poz (eating healthier and generally taking a bit more care of myself). In hindsight, though, I never really got past the depression that led me down this road. It's tough looking back on some of the past memories of the things I've done, just to get a little self-esteem and satisfaction. I still seek to address the root causes of my own depression and try to do something about it. I'm learning to no longer value my own self-worth by whether or not men wants to fuck and breed me. I've had far less sex in the last couple of years, but I'm actually okay with this. The more recent times I've been sexual have been amazing; I'm going into it with the right mindset each time, and it comes across during the session. Do I still bareback, though? Absolutely...but I'm also UD (and have been for close to 10 years), am very upfront about that with my partners, and am not into any situation where there's an intent to "poz" someone. Granted, that sounds a bit rich considering my profile name; however, that's only a roleplay scene I like to do with another consenting partner. I don't want it on my own conscience that I've pozzed a guy - however he may deal with it afterwards; that would likely only further any depressed feelings I have, knowing that I've intentionally inflicted this upon another being.

Gun to my head? I'd pick a small number of regular good dicks over a parade of mediocre ones any day here. I'm definitely in the minority here, but I actually enjoy finding those new things out about someone I've had great sex with before. Anon has it's moments, don't get me wrong. But if I had to pick ONLY one of the two options for the next year? Pals wins hands-down.

It depends on the vibe. During times where I'm the one fucking, I don't really say anything - just let the moans and grunts do the talking for me; and the pulsing cock of course. When I'm getting fucked, I'm fine with whatever the top is more comfortable doing, but there is a such thing as a top being TOO verbal about it. Once that line is crossed, the whole thing just becomes awkward.

I've come across the second type before; although, not really since my late teens in the late 90's I ddin't get it then, and don't get it now; the cum would be going in my mouth and in my insides. Any risk involved would overwhelmingly be taken by me in performing that act.

This, too. I assume anyone on BBRT and elsewhere that quotes his status as "not sure" or "don't know" is in this boat.

Also, I'm sure a certain subset of those "negative" responses might be poz in disguise. Not necessarily intentionally, of course, but I remember being warned in my younger days about the guys who are poz and don't yet know it - prob due to a recent infection. These were the more dangerous ones, as their VL wouldn't be tempered by meds yet. I'm 95% certain I got converted by this type of guy.

I'm nothing if not a statistic nut. Good question to pose, but my thoughts on the results that stand at the time of this writing (through 245 responses, with a "neg" % of 68.5)... First is consider the forum. This is BZ, so I'd say the sample size on here is going to be more skewed toward poz than the general MSM population at large. As for the numbers of men responding poz further back than 1990, I'm afraid it's been mentioned that many of those are either not on here posting about their general escapades (or lack thereof), or have sadly left us some time ago.

Definitely uncalled for. Even if he felt a certain kind of way, keep it to yourself, dude. Long before I got pozzed, my older best friend (who has been poz since the 80's) would constantly tell me horror stories of the kinds of private messages he'd get from guys on gay dot com back in the day. He would say the same thing about educating one's self on how trasmission truly worked and whatnot, but at some point in the argument, it's just a lost cause.

I'll agree with this statement. I've seen guys at the sauna who just genuinely look unapproachable; and they are typically just wandering around or sitting watching the porn on TV - rarely interacting with the others.

Well, not having seen you at the sauna, I can't comment on your body language. But, yeah, I've had this happen to me as well. There are top guys (or those that are willing to top) that are looking for the next best hole. You see them, introduce yourself to try to get things going; then, I see their eyes darting around looking everywhere else. It's why I prefer not to suggest meeting a guy from the apps at the saunas. If we run into each other and play, great; I'm not going to get my hopes up, though. If I focus too much on who I plan to see and play with going in, it would take away from the other actual encounters that I might have...some of which may well turn out to be far hotter.

Depending on the app, I'm pretty sure that some are just messaging you based on the photo(s) alone. The text is almost irrelevant at that point. I respond best to guys who message me referencing something I've written in the profile - lets me know that it's gone through at least a cursory perusal. Similarly, as someone who does read profiles, I try and do the same when sending a first message. The flip side to this is that I've done that, only to be met with a sense of bewilderment; the guy doesn't even remember his own profile text, and the moment just dies right then and there.

I've certainly had some first-timers try it with me before. Some clearly enjoyed it far less than others. I usually only do piss play these days when I go to S.O.P (where it's blatanly obvious what we're all there for). If I do it in the privacy of my own home - or his home - then it'll have to be a guy I know well enough beforehand.

I've never been into ABDL (still not), but I've always had a fascination of pissing in underwear. Can't really explain why. Also, because this isn't the watersports forum, I'll just leave it at that. The poz talk fetish only became a thing after I was actually poz. It's never been about actually infecting anyone, or getting personally infected. Just one of those liberating things that I found out about after the fact.

Oh my God, yes!!!! Not really sure what it is about oral either, but this has to be the biggest chunk of bragging. Personally, it's not that I don't like receiving head; it's just that many guys can't do it the way I like it. I'm not into the "hoover mouths" that take the phrase sucking dick far to literal. I've had other guys who say they like to "go slow" in fact go so incredibly slow that it just doesn't feel like anything. Worst experience getting sucked though had to be my first ever receiving of head - after about five half-arsed bobs on my cock, he looks up at me and asks "you close?" I politely said no...then after a few more similarly disappointing bobs, the same thing again. Clearly far too focused on wanting me to cum, but not having the technique to get me there - and he was one of those who bragged about his skills, which is why I agreed to it in the first place.

It's a balance. There's boasting, and then there's confidence. By the same token, there's understated, and then there's zero confidence. Personally, I find boastful guys to not be good at the thing they've boasted about - that's probably my own experience, but there ya go. Honestly, I might enjoy certain acts and think I'm good at them, broadly speaking. But a large part behind those great experiences was the other guy in the room doing those things with me. I've been told my ass feels silky and welcoming before - by a guy who fucked me appropriately; another guy who wanted to just jackhammer into me without lube would very likely disagree with that statement. This is why I've tried to avoid overtalking about my sexual techniques when chatting on apps. I might give a general idea of what I'm into (i.e. oral, anal, snogging, etc.), but will always put into conversation that every connection is different and we should try it in person.

That's probably just co-incidence. Again, the colour code only makes sense if you're attending a venue where it's meaning is almost universally understood. Besides, a shirt wouldn't really signify top/bottom in the way a hanky or armband woutl (left = top, right = bottom).