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I'll have to give this one a miss due to other commitments. But I'd consider the next one. Also intrigued by the mask ball (think that's 2nd Sunday of every month?)...if anyone's been to that one, I'd love to hear about the experience.

I've done it when I was on top once. We'd been out and had a quite a bit of wine. The sex was good, but the cum just wasn't coming...so I had to improvise.

Not gonna lie, a quick way to get my hole to open up is to call me a "good boy". Sure, I'm in my 40's now, but that just puts me so at ease with a top and it just helps me melt into him that much more.

Yeah, definitely cum with emphasis, but don't fake it too much. That's just as annoying. I also prefer the more primal aspect of it. During ejaculation, I'm not really much for verbal....that has a place before ejaculation, but not in the moment. If my face is looking away (either being positioned doggie style or blindfolded) then defintely put some emphasis on it - if the top isn't particularly loud, then at least a few hard pumps in would be a good cue. Or slow down to the point of letting me feel the pulsating cock emptying inside me. Personally, when I top, I can't help but be a grunty cummer. Not by choice, it just happens...same way my bottoming makes me reflexively moan and squeal when getting railed. How grunty depends on the intensity of my cum, but there's almost always something to it. In a way, though, this is another reason I prefer looking into my top's eyes and face while he's fucking me. I had a quiet cummer fuck me a few years ago where I could see the change in his facial expressions right before things "finished" and that was really my only cue. I tend to pay attention to many different cues during a session for this very reason - if it's my first experience with a guy, I don't yet know his orgasm technique, so I pay attention to everything. If it's someone I've played with before, though, the fact that I know the cues turns me on more, as I know when the time has come.

Also for "why" some bottoms feel the need to do this? (Sorry, wasn't able to edit my original post to add this)... A large part of it may be jealousy. As @ErosWired said in the original post regarding his experience....that one bottom said it was "MY load", and think they're entitled to it - regardless of where that load was put. When you're in a place where bottoming for loads is highly competitive, then you get these bottoms who seem way too interested by who their target top is fucking (if/when they aren't fucking THEM). I actually don't think it's as simple as liking the act of ass-to-mouth loads. Sure, some guys have a fetish for that sort of thing, but doesn't sound like that applies in this specific scenario.

When I've done the group sex and cruisy things in the past, I've had this happen. You can tell...the ones that seem to follow you around the place watching you get railed just waiting to watch some top let out his glorious seed inside me. In those instances, when my top is finished, I get up and walk around a bit; don't leave myself just there and open myself up to that sort of travesty. It's not a foolproof thing to do, but find I've not had this actually happen to me very often.

Seeing the (adult) male models on the underwear packages in the shops. I've always had a fascination with men dressed in only undewear, and that was prob the earlist I can remember being in admiration of the male physique.

What kind of man is this? A man who truly owns up to his sexual power, and we certainly need more of those out there. It's not a scene I do any longer, but am not ashamed of having done this in the past. And I certainly don't take anything away from anyone who does it now - even if I'm not participating. As long as you're approaching this from a healthy place mentally, by all means, be our guest. Any haters out there are probably jealous of the fact that they secretly love the idea but are too repressed to own up to it.

I'm certainly wouldn't do it for an anon scene (although I'm not really doing those anymore anyway). I've had far too many instances of guys doing it where all I feel is fingernails or something else uncomfortable. So, I reserve this for guys I know more intimately...good enough to know their own personal hygiene at least. I know when it's done to me right, it does feel good for me; however, I know that's a bit of personal preference on my part.

You and I are on a similar wavelength on this. My recent sauna visit aside, it's not the kind of place where I expect to find the kind of good connection that I want (or, quite frankly, NEED) these days. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen, just not statistically likely. When it comes to those deeper connection moments, I have a very open mind on how I determine what I'm interested in doing. Top/bottom/vers no longer matters in those situations. Ideally, I'd prefer some level of versatility so that we can both experience each other in the fullest possible way. In those connections, the actual mechanics of the sex are largely unimportant...just let the vibe dictate what happens and see where it goes.

So, admission....I went to one of the London saunas last night for the first time in about 4 years. I was nervous, and wasn't sure if I'd find anything; just didn't want to stay home either. It actually turned out to be a good night. I went to the one in London where it tends to skew older, but I kinda like that sort of thing - tends to be less pretentious there. Was a good crowd when I got there and actually got fucked really well by one guy. I didn't cruise naked either - had a jockstrap on (obivous sign I was looking to bottom). Didn't really have an issue with some guy wanting to pull my cock out, which has happened in the past, nor was there much in the way of any "competitive bottoms". Might have just picked a good night - or maybe it's because I looked like fresh meat after not having been for a long time.

Definitely in the hundreds as I was a big cock hound back in uni. And I would always want to swallow my guys cum as well. Never got any STI's from any of that - didn't really catch anything to that effect until I became a full-on barebacker.

I left that part out, but yeah....the obvious guys that are clearly off their tits are a big reason I don't top more either. Also, my topping 20's years were before iPhones and Grindr, et al, so there wasn't even the plausibility of phone-scrolling whilst fucking.

Yes and no here. You're right to a degree, but even these saunas have their good and bad nights (I can vouch for a few cities in the US and Europe here). Some nights I'd do and I'd practically be getting fucked like crazy. Other nights I'd see a nice round ass and be all up in it for most of the night. It was on the very odd occasion where I'd do both in one night - but in those cases, I'd be conscious of cumming too early in the evening - I'd be too tight to take more, and would need recouperation time (in my younger days) to work up for round 2.

It certainly feels like there is a disparity - certainly in London for sure. Yes, I'm an admitted vers bottom that LOVES getting fucked and filled - but I'm not a young twink anymore and know that I can't compete with those that are. My modus operadi of late is that I'm not really into the cumdumping, anon scenarios. Some tops and vers guys that I do message are of the variety that go for that sort of thing, though - wanting me to be blindfolded, asking me how many loads I've already taken. It was a bit disappointing for a while, but I realised that any sex with them wouldn't be worth it. So, the saunas became my go-to for a bit. I'd def get action there, and that was satisfying for a while. But I really did start to miss those really connected fucks where there was some sense of afterglow and just being with each other as we catch our breath - not the kind of play one usually gets at the saunas. Another reason I don't top more lately is because I find some bottoms to be a bit pushy for my tastes. Not saying all bottoms are, and certainly not disparaging any of you here. I just remember back in my 20's when I topped far more than I do today - the attitude of the guys I would fuck just seemed different back then. Not begging me for my cum after the third stroke in their hole; not instantly telling me how many loads they have already; not asking if I can bring any tops over to share him with; etc. And the thing about cumdump scenes is that I enjoy quite a bit of foreplay and snogging before the main action - those scenes aren't really catered to that sort of thing. Or I've had some bottoms come over and barely give a couple of bobs on my dick as a poor excuse of a blowjob before I get that look of "why aren't you fucking me yet". If a guy can truly show that there's a genuine interest in ME fucking them, instead of it just being ANY guy fucking them, it makes my cock that much harder and my mind much more interested in topping him.

"Swallow" vids where the guy receiving the head jerks his load out and maybe 20% of it hits the open mouth of the guy that spent the time to work up to that. Related are the WS fetish vids where the bulk of it goes everywhere but in the mouth. It's all against that very British saying of "does what it says on the tin".

I think there's a bit of a chicken-and-egg issue at play between "does gay porn influence casual sex behaviours" or "do casual sex behaviours dictate the demand for certain types of porn". It's absolutely a case of economics; textbook supply and demand. It's definitely been mentioned in other threads, but the TIM Dawson films from almost 20 years ago (!) really did change both porn and orgies. Every bottom wanted their Dawson moment, so many of the group parties on BBRT (or similar) were of the one bottom looking for multiple tops variety. I've been to some of those as a top: some were fun, some were okay, and some were just plain awkward. There's been plenty of other videos since that follow that same formula - one bottom taking multiple "tops" over the course of a day or weekend. They all sell (or get watched somehow) in great numbers...so more of these get made. Personally, a proper orgy would be my preferred scene. Yes, I'd bottom more than top, but toward the end of the night, I'm going to need my own release - no better way than sharing the wealth around for someone willing 🙂 But yeah, I don't see many porn flicks or clips showing that kind of action. At least not in the numbers to rival the plethora of gangbanged-bottoms out ther.

Yeah, a couple of us were mentioning this earlier in the thread. The higher that number goes, the more it doesn't make feasable sense...guys will back out due to sheer nervousness or flakiness, others won't turn up thinking "well there's going to be others there, so it's not a big deal if I bail", and you also have the closet bottoms hoping that there will be enough attendees for side-action. None of this is new to London, or of cumdump parties in general. Also, considering the location of the one popular hotel that most like to use, Vault is maybe about a 10-15 minute walk north of there, and that's prob a better place for real action.

Different tops have different styles, and that holds true for any geographic location. Don't think it's down to where you live, quite honestly. Personally, I find many tops don't like being told how to fuck their bottom. I don't really tell a guy what to do - especially in the action - because a part of me finds that the difference in each guy is part of the beauty of sampling the proverbial buffet. That being said, though, I don't hesitate to tell a top to stop doing something if it makes me uncomfortable, physically or mentally. Can certainly appreciate your being upfront in the apps. One doesn't get if one doesn't ask, I say. Kudos to you for that. I do wonder, though, if your predicament is just about the lack of available men in general? I certainly wouldn't expect central Arkansas to be the same as central London - maybe it's just about sheer numbers?

I actually love tons of foreplay ahead of the fucking. Don't really have one "thing", but a couple of my favourites: Kissing: And I mean really GOOD kissing...varied intensity and techniques. If it's too one-note for too long, then it just feels like sucking on a wet sponge after a while. Armpits: I LOVE burying my face in a guys pits and sniffing his fresh musk. It's a big plus if the guy comes straight from the gym or something like that. Blowjobs: This is my gift (no pun intended) to my prospective topper. Sit back, and let me worship your cock - show you how much I want it.

This doesn't surprise me in the least. Nor is this a recent phenomenon, either. Prob got the idea after watching some porn where a bottom is getting railed by 10 guys in succession and thought "that must be hot". Then when the number climbed ever so higher, reality hit of "can I really do this?".

Also, I think the fact that BBRT doesn't have an app (and prob never will) works to its detriment long-term. Sure, you can use your mobile phone and do geo-location, but it's not quite the same, and the notifications aren't instantaneous like the apps either.

Even in a city such as London, I've noticed quite a change over the last couple years - and not in a good way. Maybe this is now because I'm over 40 and a vers/bottom, and I can't compete with the twink prepsters these days (nor do I try to, to be honest). But I find many of the top or vers guys on there these days are after the anon and cumdump scenes. See many of them signing up for the various cumdump parties at a certain central London hotel. I've sometimes wondered how many of them actually turn up, though; as we know, the success rate for any group listing there was around 50% pre-COVID, and I'm unsure if that's held up the last few years. I've also had guys message me on there asking me how many loads I have in me, then ignore me when I honestly tell them I've not had any yet. Similarly, the bottoms that have asked me about whether or not I have top mates to share with them (I don't) or message me saying "## here looking for more" is a bit off-putting as well. It used to be THE place to find like-minded men into all-natural play. Everyone on there knew what they were getting into when they signed up. The numbers started to explode post-PrEP; especially, in the number of bottoms on there. I'm not slagging off PrEP, though; kinda wish it was around when I was younger. I am saying, however, that it's made the site like many of the others. It's somewhat lost its differentiating factor, as one can very easily find bareback play outside of the site. I had better luck with it when I first moved to London, and had quite a bit of luck with it (and A4A) when I lived in Dallas. I remember when the Dallas view would only get 3 or 4 guys online and now it seems to have exploded.

I'm a masculine cocksucker in the sense that I like to be the one really in control and have my guy at my mercy. I loathe men who grab the back of my head and force me down on their cock - and it's not the place to dirty talk to me or name call me. I just want you to sit/lay back, relax, and just let me do my work on you.

It's def less friction when it's raw. I've had guys try using one on me at cruise clubs over the years and it just never works out - just find it too uncomfortable and unenjoyable. I'm also sure there's a mental aspect of knowing your man is inside you with no barriers.