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I'm certainly wouldn't do it for an anon scene (although I'm not really doing those anymore anyway). I've had far too many instances of guys doing it where all I feel is fingernails or something else uncomfortable. So, I reserve this for guys I know more intimately...good enough to know their own personal hygiene at least. I know when it's done to me right, it does feel good for me; however, I know that's a bit of personal preference on my part.

You and I are on a similar wavelength on this. My recent sauna visit aside, it's not the kind of place where I expect to find the kind of good connection that I want (or, quite frankly, NEED) these days. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen, just not statistically likely. When it comes to those deeper connection moments, I have a very open mind on how I determine what I'm interested in doing. Top/bottom/vers no longer matters in those situations. Ideally, I'd prefer some level of versatility so that we can both experience each other in the fullest possible way. In those connections, the actual mechanics of the sex are largely unimportant...just let the vibe dictate what happens and see where it goes.

So, admission....I went to one of the London saunas last night for the first time in about 4 years. I was nervous, and wasn't sure if I'd find anything; just didn't want to stay home either. It actually turned out to be a good night. I went to the one in London where it tends to skew older, but I kinda like that sort of thing - tends to be less pretentious there. Was a good crowd when I got there and actually got fucked really well by one guy. I didn't cruise naked either - had a jockstrap on (obivous sign I was looking to bottom). Didn't really have an issue with some guy wanting to pull my cock out, which has happened in the past, nor was there much in the way of any "competitive bottoms". Might have just picked a good night - or maybe it's because I looked like fresh meat after not having been for a long time.

Definitely in the hundreds as I was a big cock hound back in uni. And I would always want to swallow my guys cum as well. Never got any STI's from any of that - didn't really catch anything to that effect until I became a full-on barebacker.

I left that part out, but yeah....the obvious guys that are clearly off their tits are a big reason I don't top more either. Also, my topping 20's years were before iPhones and Grindr, et al, so there wasn't even the plausibility of phone-scrolling whilst fucking.

Yes and no here. You're right to a degree, but even these saunas have their good and bad nights (I can vouch for a few cities in the US and Europe here). Some nights I'd do and I'd practically be getting fucked like crazy. Other nights I'd see a nice round ass and be all up in it for most of the night. It was on the very odd occasion where I'd do both in one night - but in those cases, I'd be conscious of cumming too early in the evening - I'd be too tight to take more, and would need recouperation time (in my younger days) to work up for round 2.

It certainly feels like there is a disparity - certainly in London for sure. Yes, I'm an admitted vers bottom that LOVES getting fucked and filled - but I'm not a young twink anymore and know that I can't compete with those that are. My modus operadi of late is that I'm not really into the cumdumping, anon scenarios. Some tops and vers guys that I do message are of the variety that go for that sort of thing, though - wanting me to be blindfolded, asking me how many loads I've already taken. It was a bit disappointing for a while, but I realised that any sex with them wouldn't be worth it. So, the saunas became my go-to for a bit. I'd def get action there, and that was satisfying for a while. But I really did start to miss those really connected fucks where there was some sense of afterglow and just being with each other as we catch our breath - not the kind of play one usually gets at the saunas. Another reason I don't top more lately is because I find some bottoms to be a bit pushy for my tastes. Not saying all bottoms are, and certainly not disparaging any of you here. I just remember back in my 20's when I topped far more than I do today - the attitude of the guys I would fuck just seemed different back then. Not begging me for my cum after the third stroke in their hole; not instantly telling me how many loads they have already; not asking if I can bring any tops over to share him with; etc. And the thing about cumdump scenes is that I enjoy quite a bit of foreplay and snogging before the main action - those scenes aren't really catered to that sort of thing. Or I've had some bottoms come over and barely give a couple of bobs on my dick as a poor excuse of a blowjob before I get that look of "why aren't you fucking me yet". If a guy can truly show that there's a genuine interest in ME fucking them, instead of it just being ANY guy fucking them, it makes my cock that much harder and my mind much more interested in topping him.

"Swallow" vids where the guy receiving the head jerks his load out and maybe 20% of it hits the open mouth of the guy that spent the time to work up to that. Related are the WS fetish vids where the bulk of it goes everywhere but in the mouth. It's all against that very British saying of "does what it says on the tin".

I think there's a bit of a chicken-and-egg issue at play between "does gay porn influence casual sex behaviours" or "do casual sex behaviours dictate the demand for certain types of porn". It's absolutely a case of economics; textbook supply and demand. It's definitely been mentioned in other threads, but the TIM Dawson films from almost 20 years ago (!) really did change both porn and orgies. Every bottom wanted their Dawson moment, so many of the group parties on BBRT (or similar) were of the one bottom looking for multiple tops variety. I've been to some of those as a top: some were fun, some were okay, and some were just plain awkward. There's been plenty of other videos since that follow that same formula - one bottom taking multiple "tops" over the course of a day or weekend. They all sell (or get watched somehow) in great numbers...so more of these get made. Personally, a proper orgy would be my preferred scene. Yes, I'd bottom more than top, but toward the end of the night, I'm going to need my own release - no better way than sharing the wealth around for someone willing 🙂 But yeah, I don't see many porn flicks or clips showing that kind of action. At least not in the numbers to rival the plethora of gangbanged-bottoms out ther.

Yeah, a couple of us were mentioning this earlier in the thread. The higher that number goes, the more it doesn't make feasable sense...guys will back out due to sheer nervousness or flakiness, others won't turn up thinking "well there's going to be others there, so it's not a big deal if I bail", and you also have the closet bottoms hoping that there will be enough attendees for side-action. None of this is new to London, or of cumdump parties in general. Also, considering the location of the one popular hotel that most like to use, Vault is maybe about a 10-15 minute walk north of there, and that's prob a better place for real action.

Different tops have different styles, and that holds true for any geographic location. Don't think it's down to where you live, quite honestly. Personally, I find many tops don't like being told how to fuck their bottom. I don't really tell a guy what to do - especially in the action - because a part of me finds that the difference in each guy is part of the beauty of sampling the proverbial buffet. That being said, though, I don't hesitate to tell a top to stop doing something if it makes me uncomfortable, physically or mentally. Can certainly appreciate your being upfront in the apps. One doesn't get if one doesn't ask, I say. Kudos to you for that. I do wonder, though, if your predicament is just about the lack of available men in general? I certainly wouldn't expect central Arkansas to be the same as central London - maybe it's just about sheer numbers?

I actually love tons of foreplay ahead of the fucking. Don't really have one "thing", but a couple of my favourites: Kissing: And I mean really GOOD kissing...varied intensity and techniques. If it's too one-note for too long, then it just feels like sucking on a wet sponge after a while. Armpits: I LOVE burying my face in a guys pits and sniffing his fresh musk. It's a big plus if the guy comes straight from the gym or something like that. Blowjobs: This is my gift (no pun intended) to my prospective topper. Sit back, and let me worship your cock - show you how much I want it.

This doesn't surprise me in the least. Nor is this a recent phenomenon, either. Prob got the idea after watching some porn where a bottom is getting railed by 10 guys in succession and thought "that must be hot". Then when the number climbed ever so higher, reality hit of "can I really do this?".

Also, I think the fact that BBRT doesn't have an app (and prob never will) works to its detriment long-term. Sure, you can use your mobile phone and do geo-location, but it's not quite the same, and the notifications aren't instantaneous like the apps either.

Even in a city such as London, I've noticed quite a change over the last couple years - and not in a good way. Maybe this is now because I'm over 40 and a vers/bottom, and I can't compete with the twink prepsters these days (nor do I try to, to be honest). But I find many of the top or vers guys on there these days are after the anon and cumdump scenes. See many of them signing up for the various cumdump parties at a certain central London hotel. I've sometimes wondered how many of them actually turn up, though; as we know, the success rate for any group listing there was around 50% pre-COVID, and I'm unsure if that's held up the last few years. I've also had guys message me on there asking me how many loads I have in me, then ignore me when I honestly tell them I've not had any yet. Similarly, the bottoms that have asked me about whether or not I have top mates to share with them (I don't) or message me saying "## here looking for more" is a bit off-putting as well. It used to be THE place to find like-minded men into all-natural play. Everyone on there knew what they were getting into when they signed up. The numbers started to explode post-PrEP; especially, in the number of bottoms on there. I'm not slagging off PrEP, though; kinda wish it was around when I was younger. I am saying, however, that it's made the site like many of the others. It's somewhat lost its differentiating factor, as one can very easily find bareback play outside of the site. I had better luck with it when I first moved to London, and had quite a bit of luck with it (and A4A) when I lived in Dallas. I remember when the Dallas view would only get 3 or 4 guys online and now it seems to have exploded.

I'm a masculine cocksucker in the sense that I like to be the one really in control and have my guy at my mercy. I loathe men who grab the back of my head and force me down on their cock - and it's not the place to dirty talk to me or name call me. I just want you to sit/lay back, relax, and just let me do my work on you.

It's def less friction when it's raw. I've had guys try using one on me at cruise clubs over the years and it just never works out - just find it too uncomfortable and unenjoyable. I'm also sure there's a mental aspect of knowing your man is inside you with no barriers.

B3 is definitely great. It's like it just keeps shooting and the motion is slow enough to where it just makes that moment a bit next-level. So, kudos to you on that one and wish I was there to experience it first hand 😉

So, I've thought about this the other day (too much fantasiing about past experiences, I guess). I've been bred by quite a few men over the years, and noticed that there's a general type of category that each guy falls under. But it's more than just a simplistic one-way definition. I find it falls more along the lines of a matrix - motion and volume. So, this is what my mind cooked up the other day: Motion: A - Low motion, the guy probably stops moving altogether and shoots with his cock staying still in one place. Bottoms can usually feel the throbbing motion. B - Medium motion, the guy is thrusting - but lightly to medium stroke intensity. The throbbing may be felt, and any fluid will be noticeable after a couple thrusts. C - Intense motion. The guy is thrusting HARD when cumming. The throbbing gets lost in the motion, and fluids aren't usually felt until the guy is pretty emptied out. Volume: 1 - Low volume; the guy is a "dribbler". A bottom will notice only a mild change of consistency between lube and cum. 2 - Medium volume; prob where most guys fall. First squirt or two are legitimate shots, with the bulk of the orgasm dribbling out. Will definitely notice receiving this load, but it won't exactly be the kind that fills you up. 3 - High volume. The lucky ones. These guys can squirt out the bulk of their orgasms, or suffer from hyperspermia. If you don't feel this flooding you, then something is definitely wrong with you. So, question for all of you out there. What type would you consider yourself? What type have you experienced most often? What would you consider your favourite? In my younger days when I topped more, I'd say I was more an A2 type guy...too sensitive to keep thrusting, and my load size tends to be on the average size. Most guys who have fucked me are of the A2 or B2 type.

I love exhibitionism. As long as I'm left with the connection of me and the guy giving me a good go, I'm all set. Only thing I don't really like in a public setting is when another guy interjects himself and breaks the rhythm.

Aside from the thread this has referenced, I've thought about doing this anyway. Have quite a few half-masks and balaclavas in my collection that I want to put to more use. It does scream "top", though, so I have to pick my battles.

Possibly, but Lab parties (and similar ones to it) have definitive start times by which you must arrive in order to be allowed in. So, for the Lab naked nights during Folsom - arrival is between 9 and 11 pm; if you're posting that you're bored at 11:15, you've missed your boat and should just leave. By that time, no one else will be allowed through the doors.

You're being completely reasonable here. I'm with you in that I wouldn't have done many of the things I've done in Lab through the years if it were filmed and could be plastered on whatever tube site is out there (or worse). Also, phones take away from being in the moment, which is the best part about these events. I have a plethora of available men ready to rail me, so why on God's Green Earth would I waste time on a smartphone looking at anything other than the swinging dicks ambling about?

I've done it before as both bottom (I've been blindfolded) or top (I fuck the blindfolded guy). I get the thrill of it. I've had fantastic experiences, mediocre experiences, and lacklustre experiences on all aspects. First time I did the scene, I was the top and my bottom was a guy I'd played with before where no blindfolds were involved. It was great...had him come to mine and get on my bed and in position, all while I waited in a secret place to then move in later. After we were done, he told me about the experience for him. I think it made me get a little more dominant than usual (and rather unusually for me), but I had fun. Have done it numerous times since, but mostly at group parties. My first time doing it as a bottom, and I just remember being incredibly nervous. There was the unknown of what was going to happen, but that thrill made the adrenaline run even more. First time doing it was fantastic. I distinctly remember the guy's voice and sounds and the way he thrusted as he was cumming. Did it a few more times with a couple different guys. On the odd occasion, a guy would come over, and it was clear he couldn't perform in the moment, which was disappointing. It happens to the best of us - it is what it is. Nowadays, I've actually become more curious about anon play in a different way, though. Rather than the bottom being blindfolded, I'd rather the top show up in a ski-mask type of gear and have the anon play happen that way. Still don't see a face, but there's still the wonder of just who it is behind the mask giving a good go.

For me, it depends on the situation. When I would go to the sauna/bathhouse, my cock is a no-no - and why I opt for wearing a jockstrap or ass-less pants (unless it's naked night). It's not always a deterrent, though; I've still had guys just take the liberty of trying to whip it out to suck it, and I have to politely grab their hand and move it away. At home or a one-on-one situation with a guy, it requires advanced discussion. I wouldn't blindly say yes to the request, as I don't enjoy when a top wants to jerk me off while he's fucking me...I won't last long, and my ejaculating while being fucked is completely and physically uncomfortable to me. But if a guy wants to jerk me, or even suck me, after he's bred me - I'm open to it. Also gives me a chance to ask if he'd be into snowballing my cum back to me, and I'm not about to turn down that type of play.