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Do you still cum in a bottom who asks you to pull out?


blktone67

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I used to be a bottom - party - getting high - drinking - smoking weed - sniffing poppers - being used by 1 to 5 guys - they started using condom 's but never finished me off with condoms .  Now older , with the group or by myself - party - drinking - smoking - sniffing poppers to those going to be fucked - hard and deep - No Mercy !  

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3 hours ago, Bimandump said:

You do realize it's rape right? You do get that? Why is this even up in the forums? Where is moderators.. am I going to find more disturbing posts like this? 

Your narrow interpretation of the post does not automatically qualify it for censorship - which this site is in any case not heavily subjected to. If you are deeply disturbed by that post, I would advise you to tread very cautiously in other areas of the forum, where that post would seem tame and not particularly outlandish.

With regard to @blktone67’s remarks, I might point out that in both instances the scenarios involved either tacit or inferable consent on the part of the bottom. In the first case, he makes it clear that the bottom has changed his mind and permitted the breeding after he has fucked without orgasm for a prolonged period. The fact that he has intentionally withheld his orgasm does not amount to coercion - I’ve had many a long-haul Top fuck me for hours simply because his pleasure is in the fucking, not the cumming. The fact that the bottom has a change if mind somewhere along the way is entirely the bottom’s responsibility.

In the second case, the bottom himself removes the condom, then requests that the Top not cum inside. The simple mechanics of sexual intercourse makes it practically impossible to promise anyone that no exchange of fluids will occur, so if the bottom wished to ensure that did not happen, he could simply have left the condom in place. I am a string advocate for a bottom’s right to decide what happens to his body, but it’s the rare Top who has mastered fine control over his orgasm - it’s absurd to expect Tops to be able to judge it correctly every time in the heat of (mutual) passion, let alone control every little secretion.

I am not defending @blktone67’s general approach to the question; clearly, he does not consider a bottom’s wishes to be of any consequence if they conflict with his own appetite. I cannot condone such attitudes, but the general trend of discourse on this forum suggests that they are not uncommon, and a relative minority would apply the classification of “rape” as liberally as you seem to do. For my part I believe a large part of my purpose is to service such men and absorb their lusts and “rapes” so that others may be spared their excesses. And I assure you, I know what constitutes an actual rape.

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2 hours ago, RawVersGuy1 said:

Pulling out is for porn.  I make it very clear that I only play bareback and there is no pulling out.  If you expect me to pull out, or you intend to pull out, please move along (and block me).  This is non-negotiable.   My load will end up in your hole.  

Man I sure hope so.  I don't follow the logic of someone who has my cock in their ass and then decides cumming in there isn't for them.  I am clear on that from the outset.  

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I want  the load but if they tell me they want to use a condom I go along hoping they'll not use it or pull it off--which is what has been my experience.  A closeted black top hit me on a4a, said he wanted to fuck with a condom but wanted to rub my back give a massage and work himself up to fucking me.  He said he wasn't good looking, had no picture, told him I didn't care.  He showed up, we talked a couple minutes then into the bedroom, me face down naked, him straddling me rubbing my back, ass, legs.  condom and lotion out.  His cock keeps hitting my hole i said i like that, he keeps getting harder, lotion is running down my crack, his dick his getting lubed I can feel it.  He said to let him just rub on my hole.  OK.  Then let me just put the head in.  OK.  I know where this is going.  Then he starts going deeper I said it's feeling good.  "I'll pull out don't worry" he said--I didn't care.  I can feel he's getting close, his breathing, thrusting harder, moaning.  I grab his legs and hold tight, "I'm close but I'll pull out", as I'm holding his legs tighter.  He didn't pull out I'm holding him in, he cums in hot buckets.  He's upset, I tell him to just stay inside me and relax.  His fat crooked dick and big load felt great inside, he's a little upset, I'm telling him to just stay there.  I start kissing him with him on my back and he stays hard.  Luckily he gave me another without pulling out.  You never know what will really happen.

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I see this thread started a couple of years ago - I did read back somewhat - but I don't see any allusion to rape at all.  That inhuman act is a very clearly defined and abhorred one .... maybe this thread "drifted off-topic", as they sometimes do (and which drift I admit I have contributed to occasionally). 

Rape, by the universal definition, is never ok.  That's why men that visit that outrage upon others wind up in the clink, and deservedly so.

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4 hours ago, WiChaser said:

Man I sure hope so.  I don't follow the logic of someone who has my cock in their ass and then decides cumming in there isn't for them.  I am clear on that from the outset.  

A few times, I've been with dominant guys and have pretended to be very innocent, making them 'persuade' me to bottom raw on the condition they pull out. Every time, they've held me down at the critical moment, flooded me and said they couldn't control it. Obviously, that is exactly what we both wanted from the start 😉

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When I was younger, I would not pull out and held the guys down forcibly to cum deep inside them. Now, I realize that was kind of rape. And some guys reacted very negatively.

Luckily, now we are in the era of PrEp, and condoms are a thing of the past.

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Once a bottom has made the decision to bareback with a poz detectable top he is exposed just as if the top came in his breeding hole, 

pre cum is just as infectious as cum and pre cum gets pumped into a hole the entire time the bottom is being bred 

it’s being worked into the bottoms blood stream the entire time he’s getting bare backed. 
so pull out or not it’s the same exposure

WELCOME TO THE BROTHER HOOD 

 

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