Straight guys being gay under given circumstances?

[MoonDreamer]

I always thouht that was one of the hottest thing. A str8 guy seeking another man to relief him. But is this real? There are str8 people that I know that seem almost to be blind to other men. Like they dont exist. Not caring for them at all even in non sexual content (eg giving them a ride for instance just to help them or anything). I tend to believe that these people are sociopaths or something. But could a str8 guy find another man suitable for a sexual encounter in a woman-free environment (army or anything).

PS I've heard that it's quite common guys jerking together as teens even if they are str8. Now that i'm in my 30s do I have a chance of jerking with a str8 guy even with str8 porn? I wanna feel this.

[TravelGuy1956]

I have had many encounters with men that identified as straight.  They were all right place, right time, one time only situations between myself and the other man.  However,  I don't know if it was their only excursion to the gay side of the fence.  I think any man that goes gay even for a moment, probably has done it before and will do it again. 

[Neely116]

Yes, i was straight but had an accidental encounter with a gay man. Enjoyed it and had more and as my love for cock increased ( i am bottom) so my love for pussy fell to the point where im definitely 100 % gay

[PigBoyDallas]

I fairly regularly get hit on by guys who say they're straight and hook up regularly with some straight guys as well. I don't really challenge or question whether they're truly straight or not and I guess some may be bi. But they fall pretty much into one of two categories. Guys who really enjoy getting fucked and admit they can't get that from their GF or wife, and guys who just want release and "any hole is the goal". I remember the first straight guy I got with that really enjoyed getting fucked and I was like "wtf" about it and thought he was something of a unicorn. But he really wasn't as I soon hooked up with another guy who liked it too. It's kind of weird hearing a straight guy begging for your cock and telling you to pound his ass hard, or begging for me to cum inside him. But yeah, it happens. Not gonna kink shame. But that's not as common as the slutty horny straight guys where "any hole is the goal". They love that I'll take them raw, let them cum in me. Most complain about GFs/fiancées/wives that don't like having sex or having to wrap to fuck to avoid knocking a girl up. Knowing I'll gladly take them raw gets them coming back for more.

[tallslenderguy]

1 hour ago, PigBoyDallas said:

I fairly regularly get hit on by guys who say they're straight and hook up regularly with some straight guys as well. I don't really challenge or question whether they're truly straight or not and I guess some may be bi. But they fall pretty much into one of two categories. Guys who really enjoy getting fucked and admit they can't get that from their GF or wife, and guys who just want release and "any hole is the goal". I remember the first straight guy I got with that really enjoyed getting fucked and I was like "wtf" about it and thought he was something of a unicorn. But he really wasn't as I soon hooked up with another guy who liked it too. It's kind of weird hearing a straight guy begging for your cock and telling you to pound his ass hard, or begging for me to cum inside him. But yeah, it happens. Not gonna kink shame. But that's not as common as the slutty horny straight guys where "any hole is the goal". They love that I'll take them raw, let them cum in me. Most complain about GFs/fiancées/wives that don't like having sex or having to wrap to fuck to avoid knocking a girl up. Knowing I'll gladly take them raw gets them coming back for more.

Right? So many points here. To me, it all points to the sexual spectrum vs the black and white binary notions of sexuality that have dominated for some time (that seems to be changing?).  

i think the sexual spectrum makes a lot more sense, certainly has been my experience. That, and the fluidity of sexuality as well, though some 'fluids" move less and are slower or faster than others (e.g. glass is a fluid, but moves much slower than water).  

Growing up culturally programed (primarily religious) against myself (programed to be straight, but attracted to guys from a very early age), i got married to a woman at barely 21. We fucked a lot the whole time i was married.  i came to see it as like being in prison. We hear stories of straight guys having sex with other guys in prison because that's all that's available.

In my case, my "prison" was my beliefs, my conditioning.  i suspect that is true about a lot, if not most of us. We grow up in culture that affects who and how we are, so separating our conditioning from our natural predisposition can be challenging.  While i could function sexually with a woman, my 'prison' experience helped me finally process and realize that i'm wired for Men, not women. Also helped me realize just how bottom i am on that spectrum as well. In both those areas, being gay and bottom, my fluidity is more like glass than water lol.

[ErosWired]

This sort of question seems tedious to me, because it insists that we subscribe to a nonsensical notion that a bird with webbed feet that quacks isn’t a duck.

You can’t answer the question if you can’t define ‘straight’ as distinct from ‘gay’ or, more importantly, ‘bi’. Any meaningful definition of ‘straight’ would mean a man who is not sexually attracted to, and does not perform sexual acts with, other males - i.e., not homosexual. This is necessarily the definition, because if it weren’t, there would be no fetishistic pleasure in the thought of such a person ‘going against his nature’ to engage in sexual contact with another male. It would just be two guys interested in guys hooking up.

But in fact, in most cases, that’s exactly what it is. The ‘straight’ male may be repressed, confused, in denial, closeted, or simply on the hetero-leaning side of bisexual, but they Kinsey findings of a sexual spectrum are well established and make the idea of absolute heterosexuals dubious when we’re confronted with behavior to the contrary. Protests that a ‘straight’ man uses a male because ‘any hole will do’ are unconvincing - truly, absolutely, committed heterosexual men aren’t simply disinterested in sex with other men, they’re repulsed by the idea, just as absolutely gay men cannot abide the idea of sex with a woman. These visceral reactions don’t change circumstantially, and certainly not simply because the preferred type of hole isn’t ready at hand.

The OP asks about straight guys being gay under given circumstances, which implies that they would be absolutely heterosexual and in no way homosexual at all in all other circumstances. People don’t ‘turn gay’ any more that a gay person can ‘turn straight’. A person may be inclined to lean either way depending on the circumstances, but that dual nature itself is not conditional - it is a fundamental part of the person. No, a man begging for your cock and telling you to pound his ass hard and cum inside him is not ‘straight’. Of course he isn’t. Whether he chooses to call himself straight, or self-identifies as straight, is immaterial. He can call himself an eagle all he wants, but he’s quacking like a fucking duck, and his feet are webbed.

If a man finds himself turning to other males for sexual release, he no longer fits the definition of ‘straight’ as ‘absolute heterosexual’. Claims to the contrary stem from a wish to perpetuate a fantasy of the power of gay male sexuality to seduce otherwise unattainable objects of desire. Claims by so-called ‘straight’ men that they aren’t homosexual because they engage in homosexual activity are disingenuous and self-deceptive. And all of it, it seems to me, is rooted in a culture of shame over traditional definitions of masculinity.

Tedious.

[ErosWired]

4 hours ago, tallslenderguy said:

i think the sexual spectrum makes a lot more sense, certainly has been my experience. That, and the fluidity of sexuality as well, though some 'fluids" move less and are slower or faster than others (e.g. glass is a fluid, but moves much slower than water).  

Your analogy doesn’t work the way you think it does, since glass isn’t actually a fluid - it’s an amorphous solid, somewhere between a liquid and a solid. But in that sense, the analogy might work even better, in that our overall sexual makeup is ‘set’, but still capable of permutation.

[tallslenderguy]

10 minutes ago, ErosWired said:

Your analogy doesn’t work the way you think it does, since glass isn’t actually a fluid - it’s an amorphous solid, somewhere between a liquid and a solid. But in that sense, the analogy might work even better, in that our overall sexual makeup is ‘set’, but still capable of permutation.

lol, yes, i stand corrected... still, the primary point being that glass still moves even though we don't generally think of, or use it, like a liquid. Fun to thin we drink fluid out of glass. 

 

"2. Glass is a Super-cooled liquid? : This misunderstood phrase from Gustav Tammann’s book is probably the origin of the myth that glass is a liquid. The quote “glass is a frozen supercooled liquid” has been misquoted hundreds of times with the word “frozen”, forgotten. Today, this misquotation has grown to such great levels that it is actually difficult to go down and extricate the original quote that contained the word “frozen” in it. One word can indeed make a huge difference.

Finally, glasses are only amorphous solids. Where the term amorphous and solid have been separately been explained clearly in the year 1994 by Doremus R. H.
Together, these two words mean the same as definition of two separate words put together. Glass is not a liquid."

[think before following links] [think before following links] https://awesci.com/glass-liquid-or-solid/#:~:text=Glass is not a liquid.

Edited April 3, 2023 by tallslenderguy

[plymsleazebear]

When I was about 20, I was hanging out with a neighbour's son who was 18.  He knew I had straight porn videos & used to ask all the time if he could watch them.  I also had a couple of bi vids which were included on the same tapes so he got to see those too.  We would also "wrestle" too.

One time he asked if he could borrow one of my tapes to watch at home but I said no.  He tried to wrestle me for the tape but I was stronger, so he grabbed my jeans & pulled them down.  Faced with my erect cock he started sucking it, he'd obviously been watching the girls in the vids & soon was taking my cum down his throat.  I let him take one of the vids as a reward for a couple of weeks.

Over the next 18 months, whenever I asked for the tape back, or if he wanted to exchange for a different one, the same type of scenario unfolded.  We would regularly end up naked, with my cock in his mouth or ass, or vice versa.  Loved to see my spunk dripping from his cunt, & feel his warm cum inside me.  We even filmed a scene with a video camera which I still have somewhere on a VHS tape of him sucking me off.

After a while he stopped wanting to hang out & got a girlfriend.  He still has one of my tapes.  He always posts on social media about his relationships, but I always end up remembering how I got his cum first & took his virginity.  I wouldn't normally play with straight friends, but as he instigated it I let him do it.

[ErosWired]

On 4/5/2023 at 2:34 AM, plymsleazebear said:

  I wouldn't normally play with straight friends, but as he instigated it I let him do it.

It sounds like you weren’t playing with a straight friend then, either. He evidently found that the bisexual content of your videos inspired his bisexual nature enough for him to instigate homosexual acts, so I think calling him ‘straight’ just because he has a girlfriend overlooks the obvious.

Why is it that people think a gay man who fucks one woman can’t actually be gay, but that a ‘straight’ man can casually fuck male ass or suck male cock and still be totally straight? It’s just willful blindness to me.

Edited April 7, 2023 by ErosWired

[onlyraw]

On 3/29/2023 at 6:52 AM, TravelGuy1956 said:

I have had many encounters with men that identified as straight.  They were all right place, right time, one time only situations between myself and the other man.  However,  I don't know if it was their only excursion to the gay side of the fence.  I think any man that goes gay even for a moment, probably has done it before and will do it again. 

I think here the key word is that the men “identify” as straight 

it reminds me of the old line of friends hooking up and the next morning one of them saying  “boy I was drunk last night, I don’t remember anything that happened”

if the guy was hot and was up for what I was looking for I would not care how they “identify”

 although I have never hooked up with a straight guy - I do like the fantasy of a “straight” guy fucking my “pussy” because “his girlfriend won’t let me fuck her raw” or “a guys pussy is do much tighter than my girlfriends cunt” or “my girlfriend never lets me bang her pussy this hard”

so if you are a hot “straight” guy who likes to fuck a I nice tight faggot pussy raw and as hard and rough as you like …..

[ErosWired]

43 minutes ago, onlyraw said:

it reminds me of the old line of friends hooking up and the next morning one of them saying  “boy I was drunk last night, I don’t remember anything that happened”

In such a situation I would be tempted to say, “Drunk guys really show you their true nature, don’t you agree?” And then proceed to fill in the blanks in his memory. In detail.

[hntnhole]

I don't happen to run into a lot of "straight/bi" men at my favorite fuckjoints, but then guys don't get tendentious about who and what they are, either. 

When all is said and done, what counts is:  a) do Cocks get hard, b) do Holes get hungry, and c) do the guys involved have the balls to do something about it.  

[drscorpio]

Over the course of my 20s and 30s, I had sex with several straight friends who were curious and wanted to experiment. A couple of them came back for a second try, but none more than that. To the best of my knowledge, all these guys have continued to be straight identified although I think one of them who I have now lost touch with might have gone on to be actively bi. 

[BlackDude]

Never understood gay mens’ obsession with other gay men who won’t call themselves gay…

So much to unpack…..