Should incest be normalized?

[bigbadwolf639]

If so, does that only mean gay incest, or het as well? Discuss.

[sonsucker]

I’m for consensual sex

not for molesting or rape

so if both consent and are at a age to make decisions yes

i experimented with family members 

[topblkmale]

 

Sus 👎

[ellentonboy]

Nooooooooooooooo....

[PozTalkAuthor]

It can't be "normalized" as the risk of abuse and insane relationships is very high - IMHO, at least. 

- Hetero incest: if a pregnancy happens, the girl/woman should interrupt it otherwise the baby could come out with very serious disabilities. 

- gay/lesbian incest: could be, as there are not pregnancies involved but then? If someone ever creates a law about this, the usual screamers would say "why homo yes and hetero no?"

- abuses: if sex among family members could become legal, parents might abuse of children... It already happens. Read about that German man called Joseph Fritzl he enslaved his daughter for 24 hours and had 7 children from her. 

Or, if a consensual relationship between family member could be accepted, the risk of insane relationships is high: what if a father with a son/brother, a brother with a sister and so on... have an affectionate/sexual relationship, then jealousy might come if one goes to search for sex outside.

Father guiding gay son into sexuality (and something else...) is among things that turn me on, I'm the first who would have liked to have sex with my twin sister when I was a teen but then reality hits with all consequence so, the usual conversation comes, about the difference between fantasy and desire.

[blackrobe]

No, incest should remain an exception, not the rule.

Most incest involves someone underage, vulnerable, and/or incapable of informed consent. It can be incredibly damaging to young minds and change the way their brains work permanently.

In cases where related adults, who haven't been groomed, coerced, or otherwise damaged want to engage in sex and pregnancy isn't possible, it's a grayer area. Bonds that are parent/child or have a similar dynamic seem fraught with emotional and power issues that make them hard to give a pass to. The degree of maturity and self-awareness needed in all parties to navigate this kind of relationship seems very uncommon to me. Betrayal and abuse of power tear families apart in ways that just can't be fixed.

Sexual exploration is going to happen, that's why there are Juliet laws in some locations. Provided it's consensual and informed, sexual exploration within a peer group isn't a blanket wrong. The best case is where parents acknowledge that exploration is going to happen, have the frank conversations that are needed with their kids, and make a safe space for kids to explore with peers within the home. However, no parent, no matter how enlightened, will ever want to make a safe space for their children to experiment with each other.

Incest has too many negative outcomes, including generational outcomes, for it to become "normalized".

[viking8x6]

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[hntnhole]

I would avoid it, since it could lead to all kinds of accusations (regardless of what actually might happen) in the future. If a younger relative came to me asking for advice, how to navigate Aunt Bitch's reactions, Uncle Asshole, etc etc, I'd gladly offer what advice I could - from the chair on the other side of the room. 

In the case of brothers, however, I suppose it's only natural that sex is discussed between them as they grow up.  If both turn out to be gay (I mean on their own, no coercion), then they're already close, so it might be unnatural to argue against it, once each reaches the age of majority. 

Edited January 9 by hntnhole
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[atlfukbud]

To me it's the "power thing" that makes the difference. Son's/daughters are not always empowered to say NO to older family members -- but might fully be open to play with siblings, cousins, etc. I had a male and female cousin that I had sex play with growing up and it was awesome. I'd say I'm even grateful for it -- but it was 100% consensual every step of the way -- although we were by no means old enough to grant consent. 

[BBArchangel]

No, incest should never be normalized. The risk of damage to both participants, as well as to the family structure is just too great to ever give it a societal stamp of approval. I have mentioned here before that from the time was 12 until I turned 13. I was repeatedly raped by my .six years older brother and sometimes one of his friends. I didn’t watch it. I didn’t ask for it, and I hated myself that I wasn’t strong enough to fight back. My parents never believe me the numerous times I tried to tell him at the first one in the family he could do no wrong, and we were all good Christians anyway so my brother of doing something like that. And I hated them I’m not believing me, for not protecting me. So one day, having finally had a nap, I shot him. Even today, I am not sorry, no I do I regret it. 

Lots of drama ensued. A lot of time with police, and then the courts.  My brother survived, I’m a judge sentenced to him. His choice is choice, either a prison or enlistment in the army. I was sentenced, and yes it felt like a sentence, to seemingly unending counseling and therapy into a divided family with relatives that today half of whom still apologize for being so blind and another half that blames me for destroying my brother’s future and bringing shame on the entire family. I almost never see any of them. I haven’t seen my brother in 25 years. 

There are no lofty terms or “what about-isms“ that can ever make this right. It should never be relegated to just another fetish in a long list of fetishes.

[ScorpionFF]

Goodness me. That is quite some intense experience @BBArchangel, thank you for sharing such a traumatic string of events in your life around one situation. 😗

[TaKinGDeePanal]

@BBArchangel - I’d give you a hug react if it was available. 

[ScorpionFF]

@TaKinGDeePanal.... I would have done so too! 

[norefusal]

i would think normalization would required wide spread interest which honestly i don't see. even the niche porn seems to rely heavily on the step- whomever aspect of the relationship. i could see wider interest in fucking your mom's hot husband than your real dad. and then there's the whole : it's hot cause it's forbidden aspect so normalizing it would take away the kink aspect of the sex and just focus on the relationship part. 

[Marlin]

Absolutely not......A young person does not have the emotional maturity to consent.