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@hntnholeI agree guys need to consider where they are playing and take care of anything that may be have left behind. It's unfair to the business owner to clean up what should have been taken care of the night before. What I find sad is your post in the last paragraph, which mentioned the cost of housing prices going through the roof in that area. For me, that immediate vicinity had always been somewhat of a "safe" zone, I never had any issues with law enforcement or business owners. Granted, I was aware of my surroundings and even though I am guilty of using some of those areas for sex while patronizing the Ramrod, I didn't feel I was either causing the business owners any aggravation or causing customers not to shop there. Giving head on a Thursday night behind a building is not exactly the crime of the century, but still I was running the risk of getting arrested. I ask myself the question, so where to now? I've heard it mentioned that when gays move into an area, they generally upgrade the homes and property values go up. I remember my grandfather owned land in the Florida Keys in the early 70s, and sold it at an incredibly low dollar amount. According to my father, he had made that decision after being told it was difficult to build homes on the type of soil in that area. I don't know anything about building homes, but my Dad confided in me in his later years that my grandfather "chuckled" at the fact that the new owners of his land were gay men. Little did they know...... But I have to agree, if homes are now going for $500,000 in that area, I don't care how "progressive" the new owners may be, they won't want the added traffic and "activities" going on at 2 am. I worry about my fellow "ho's" who don't want to drive home with someone when they can take care of "business" behind a building. Sounds like the "end of an era".

Though I don't consider myself a "cum dump" actually, I would think a bathhouse or gay resort would be better than a sleazy motel. At the baths or a gay resort that kind of activity is almost expected. With a motel you run the risk of a cleaning lady, or management, knocking or even opening the door. To me, that would just be a distraction. I've stayed in Palm Springs at what is considered a "nicer" all gay, resort. Those "cleaning men" knew what to expect, if the did open the door it wasn't like they haven't seen someone having sex or waiting for sex before. You usually heard "I'll come back later" and there was not an issue. I have heard some horror stories from guys who have gone to what they thought was a safe motel to be a cum dump, based on conversations they have had with other guys. What happened, in a number of situations, is that the motel had changed ownership and so had the "rules". You are most at risk around "check out time", with people leaving and rooms being cleaned for the next guests. So I consider a bathhouse/sex club or gay resort a much safer option.

I think it would be fun to ask the BZ bottoms which position they prefer and compare it to what the top like most? Maybe I missed that thread somewhere.....

I would try Nastykinkpigs first as almost everyone barebacks, and are party friendly. It is an alternative to BBRT. I was critical last week regarding BBRT but that was directed at it's owner and lack of friendly customer service, but it does work well if you are in a large city and are looking for BB sex. Also, where I live adam4adam.com works well for that same situation, most are younger guys and many don't want to use condoms. Finally, I have recently started using Doublelist, which is similar to the old Craigslist. You can post on there you are looking for BB sex, and you can find it. Boston should have a large number of guys interested in BB sex. Hit me up via PM and I can answer anything else that I have experienced on these sites. Happy hunting....

You are right, Silverdaddies will limit you to two messages a day, unless you pay. Don't bother with Manhunt, they don't take well to parTy guys or guys who are poz. You mentioned being in Manhattan last year. I would go with Nastykinkpigs. Because my VPN has me living in New York, (actually downtown Manhattan), if I forget to turn it off I get hit up with a ton of Manhattan guys within a few miles who are top or vers and party friendly. I would recommend that site, and I have used BBRT in Manhattan and scored on that as well. Nastykinkpigs seemed to be the most parTy friendly, just make sure you are comfortable with the individual before giving him your location. The two sites I mentioned have worked for me in New York and Philadelphia. Sniffies is hit or miss, alot of "anonymous" profiles, alot of very young guys, not a fan of it to be honest.

Thanks for that. I am using Malwarebytes as well as their VPN, as I have a MacBook Air. I will take your advice. Sign out, turn it back on and see if I can get into BBRT. Right now my location is set for New York City, though I live in Florida. I know Malwarebytes and its VPN is one of the most recommended for MAC users, but if anyone has another option they are aware of I would appreciate you letting me know. Thanks again guy for sharing your experience with VPN's and BBRT.

I'm dating myself here, but I used to go to the Ramrod in the late 90s and early 2000s, usually Thursday nights. Now outside, there was sex, in the dark, usually in one corner. No one said a word, I believe even talking was discouraged. I was friendly with a red headed bartender, who used to give me the key to use the private bathroom if I wanted to suck some dick or get fucked very quickly, but not more than ten minutes. But I never had the good fortune of being there when there was open sex, or as it is affectionally called by hntnhole a "fuck joint". They had the old pool table, but I used it as a jumping start, to usually pick someone up there for my first trick of the evening, and there was a business next door (back in that day) where guys went to have sex behind that building. I also managed to get laid in the parking lot across the street as well, or talk with someone and follow him back to his place. I believe the last time I stepped in the door of that establishment was maybe 2005 or 2006. I am really bummed as I never experienced it at the "height" of it's sexual activity. Sure the bartenders were great to me, allowing me to use that private bathroom, and the men had no attitude. No posing, they were totally approachable and looking for sex. Sucking dick out back, or getting fuck in the open was not ideal for me (though the back of an SUV, or as I mentioned on here before, a UPS truck) worked fine. I never had trouble with police or people patrolling the parking lot. I am sorry they have cracked down on the sex that seems to have been rampant in the past years, I just wonder if they are pressured by local authorities. I feel bad for the locals that were used to patronizing it for not only the great music (which was the case on Thursday nights when I went) but also the available dick and ass. I am going to follow this thread, as I was just in Lauderdale in October and if it does return to it's "wicked" days I may decide to spend my evening going down memory lane before I get on my cruise ship or flight.

I have had one guy who has been fucking me for years, I mean years, who has a wife and a kid and is neg. He's huge, he works for Quest Diagnostics, and actually wears a plastic bracelet that reads "Mr. Big". He has showed up at my old apartment in his scrubs from Quest, and did admins for me. He always used a condom, and I have known him for years. He's handsome, polite and a great fuck. I have on many occasions, kept the condom with his cum in it, I usually pull it off his dick while he is jumping through the shower. I actually put it in a plastic cup with a lid, inside my freezer after I poured it out. I have used it as lube, so he may not know it, but I have had his DNA in me more times than I can count. I know it's sounds really "piggy", no it is really piggy. But if you would see him, you would want it to. This guy knows my status, but also knows that by using those condoms he'll be fine. He just doesn't know his potential babies end up in my freezer, in a plastic container marked "Mr. Big".

Maybe we should start a thread, which position do you prefer your tops to fuck you? I am 6 foot 3, and being on all fours, unable to see my partner, and since most guys are shorter than I am I prefer to be on my back with a pillow under my ass so that my hole is level with his cock. A sling is always ideal, you can adjust it, I was in one where the owner had "steps" so that the top could be aligned to the hole of the bottom. I know we all have our preferences and I certainly respect that, and I do try to make the top comfortable and happy. However, if I am told to turn around, stick my ass up in air, my mind starts to wonder. Does he not want to look at me, does he not find me attractive, is the lighting bad, is he afraid I might lean in and kiss him?. I have been fucked in that position to please the top and I have found that my thighs begin to hurt or his weight start to push me down to the point I can'r really enjoy myself. I still am willing to work with a top, find a position we are both comfortable with. I will say this, I find it INCREDIBLY hot to be facing the top, and watch his eyes and his expression as he unloads in me. That's just my opinion. I've been fucked while standing on top of my head, after being pushed off the bed from the force of a guy fucking. I've been fucked in the back of my Kia Forte while my legs were behind my ankles in the back seat. So, with that being said, you can see I am willing to accommodate a talented guy who knows how to use his dick. I find these various opinions interesting, they vary and it's what make BZ great. Everyone has a preference...... Now, the gentleman with the sling and the harness for those bottoms who show up without one, please feel free to PM me. 😁

I'll just add this. He has done, little, excuse me, NOTHING, to improve his site. I would love to know how many new paying customers he gained over 2023, and how that compared to previous years. His attitude is atrocious. I have spoken to him on the phone and I would say he was "indifferent" at best. He has been on somewhat of a journey to ban a number of members, either based on content they've posted in their online profile, or other reasons. I believe he may have asked you to remove a letter from your screen name because it may indicate use of enhancements (that did happen to you, correct?). What I find hypocritical is that he has an area in the profile where you are asked about drug use where a member can answer something like: "Yes", "No", "Hell No" or "Ask Me", I have chatted with numerous posters both here on BZ as well as on other sites who used screen shots of their pics from the BBRT telephone app, and when I inquired further they told me that he had banned from the site, usually for either posting something regarding "enhancements" and one went so far as to suggest he was reading messages sent between fellow members. So I ask, why have an area in the profile section that allows you to express your views on "enhancements" and then ban you for it, or what you post in the description area. Why not just tell them that the content is not allowed and give them the ability to correct the narrative and allow them to remain. Now the other thing that has really angered me is that if you use a VPN you can no longer access the site. Well, what if I am a paying member yet I want to protect my privacy online? His refusal to allow access if you use a VPN is something new, that was not the case a year ago or eighteen months ago, I think that is outrageous. I know a VPN will not give you correct information if you are using the "geo" locator, but in this case you can't even sign in. I just don't understand his logic. I talk to many guys who have told me they have moved on from BBRT or they just have the non-pay version and check it rarely. I think it is quickly dying, though I have posted on this Forum that it has been my "go to" site on the weekends, I usually have good luck with it but I believe that is based on my location and the number of guys in my area looking for sex. But has he improved his site, no not at all. Today's response to it being down it just another example of him treating his customers poorly. It's not what he says, it's HOW he says it. There is plenty of competition out there, at least where I live. He's no longer "the only game in town" when it comes to bareback sex. I am approached by guys on maybe four other sites, and it's almost assumed any anal sex will be bareback. With "prep" now readily available, I am seeing fewer and fewer guys who have the term "SAFE PLAY ONLY" in their profile. I don't know if he is possibly facing some kind of outside pressure regarding the "enhancements" issue, which has resulted in the rash of bans. But the bottom line is he ranks lowest when it comes to "customer service" to his paying customers. I continue to use it because it works for me when I need it to, but there are other options out there. I hope he wakes the hell up and realizes that. Thanks to @ErosWired for your post, I have recommended the site in the past based on my experience, but dealing with the owner, well that is another story entirely, and today is an example of what he is like. Like mentioned in posts in this thread "sorry for the inconveniecnce" would work wonders.

Customer service (or the owner) is so charming, isn't he. I don't see the word "Sorry" any where in that, do you BZ members. Thanks to BergenGuy for sharing that with member here.

I am getting a notice "cloud fare" is protecting this site. I turned off my VPN, so I don't know what is going on with BBRT. I'm going to try and see if I can get the number for customer service. I wonder what happens if you are a paid member. I have a friend in the UK who I talk to almost daily, he's a paying member as well. I'll check to see if he can log on....

I have posted in this thread previously but I did want to add something regarding Doublelist that I was not aware of when I made my original post. I have had at least three, maybe four guys tell me that their profiles were deleted because they mentioned "enhancements" in their profile. Don't do that, discuss that in the messages you send people but don't post it in your profile. They will take it down. When I first started using Doublelist they were not charging a fee, now they have instituted one. The other complaint was that you needed to use your own personal email address to get responses, unlike the old Craigslist where you got your messages in a different manner. I had to create a hotmail account for Doublelist because plenty of people know my gmail (or can figure it out) and my @Mac.com email actually is my legal name. That's a problem for me. So if you are going the Doublelist route, and it is fun and can provide almost immediate sex, I would find a way to create an email address just for that site. I just thought I would mention this to fellow posters before they wake up and find their profiles gone, that's disappointing. Oh, and don't get me started about Barebackrt.com, the fact you can't use a VPN is just asking for trouble. I don't care what his issues are, but it puts me at risk. I plan on using my VPN as long as possible, and I have my location set as New York City, not Florida. I think that owner of BBRT, who never has been the greatest at "customer service" needs to get some professional help because he is banning people right and left. He's losing long time paying customers every day. He's done little, if nothing, to upgrade that site and you can hear crickets over on that site now. BBRT used to be my "go-to" site, especially on Friday and Saturday nights after 11 pm, but these days I look elsewhere. Happy Hunting!

I don't keep my status a secret. I tend to lean to sites that ask that question and answer it honestly. I rarely have had someone show up in person and suddenly bring that subject up. They've looked at my profile, we've exchanged messages, and I would assume they have read what I posted. Generally, when the subject of barebacking comes up, almost all guys want that and they usually say they are on prep and would prefer not to use condoms. I am still of the opinion that if a guy is super attractive and decides he wants to use a condom, that's fine with me. I am not going to lose out on an opportunity to hook up with an incredibly hot man because they insist on a condom. I know that may not be a popular opinion on this forum but that's how I feel on that subject. Why have sex with someone I am really not interested in just because he will fuck me bb, when I can have sex with someone I find super hot and just wants to use a rubber. To be honest, once things get heated, I barely notice it. Several years back I would host a group of maybe four (or six) at my place, and I had one buddy who would insist on announcing his status to those attending. He said it was for his own legal protection, but normally his announcement was met with a lot of blank stares or rolling of their eyes from those attending. I just believe in being honest and transparent, and like I said they know my status before they walk into the door. I don't sit there and have some kind of "heart to heart' discussion about it, I just get naked and get down to business.

I happened to be messaging a guy on adam4adam for quite some time, when we finally were able to connect. His profile photo only included a picture of his cock, which was beautiful. He stated he was 40 years old. I thought, perfect. He also had the term "total top" and "bareback only" in his profile. Words that are music to my ears. So you can imagine my surprise when I opened the door I saw a gentleman who was probably 62 to 65. He was in average shape, pleasant smile so I let him in. My bf at the time, who was going to be part of the deal, looked at me and shook his head as if to say NO. I told our visitor it was fine and we headed back to the bedroom. He inquired if it was okay for us to play, as my bf was not going to be joining us. It was at that time, I came to understand, he was ALMOST DEAF. I had to shout at him in order for him to hear me. He proceeded to drop his pants, I laid on my back, and he slid that beautiful hard cock in me, and "went to town", so to speak. He shot his load and I have to admit he was smiling, confident, and very good at what he was doing. We took about a five minute break, and he had to SHOUT AT ME that he was recently retired from the Post Office after 35 years of employment and was working on his new home here in Florida. He had moved from somewhere in the mid-west and apologized for our multiple messages as he never changed his location on the hook up site, so many times I believe he was still in Wisconsin or Michigan or somewhere up there. Then, out of nowhere, he motioned to me to get on "all fours" and he proceeded to fuck me again. Again, he was really good and after a few enjoyable minutes, he shot a second load. He stayed for maybe 15 minutes, we SHOUTED some more at each other, and he did apologize about his hearing loss, I told him it was fine. I didn't give him any grief about saying he was 40, he was better than many 40 year old guys I have had sex with. He shot a load twice, something most guys won't do or hang around long enough to accomplish. I told him he was welcome to come back, he did say he had some reservations about my bf not wanting to participate and he felt somewhat uncomfortable. I told him I would be glad to come over to his place, and that made him happy. Normally, I would have had declined once I opened the door. For whatever reason, I made the decision to invite him in, and try to figure out why he said he was 40 and if that cock pic was indeed a picture of his own. He wasn't close to 60, he was closer to 65. But it didn't matter in the long run. So if you are reluctant to hook up with someone over 50, over 60, there are many guys who are worth your time. This was one of those instances.

I may have posted about this before but I have a very hot friend who, for a month, jerked off and froze him cum in the freezer. He sent it to me from the Boston area to Florida, overnight , for my birthday, which falls in the month of June. He told me if he couldn't be there to give it to me in person, I could at least enjoy it with him via web cam, and use it as lube the next time I played. Funny thing, I forgot about his promise, thinking he wouldn't do that, and it was just something we were fantasizing about. I happened not to be home when the delivery was made, and my best friend who lived in my building at the time decided to pick up the package, as he also knew this guy from online. He thought he might have sent me some "enhancements" as his name was on the return address area. I never told my neighbor that my friend was mailing me cum, but he knew we were close and figured it would be fine to open the package. Well, he was nauseated by what he found. The Florida heat in the delivery truck had pretty much melted the cum, and the smell was, well......unpleasant. So you can mail cum, it can be used, but I suppose it depends on how it is shipped and how much you or the recipient are willing to pay for expedited service! The three of us, who all remain friends, still laugh about this today.

If someone giving me a cocktail in their home, and I wake up naked in their bed, then the answer is yes. The sad part about this was that I was naive to what GHB or "roofies" were. This guy was someone who I would see at a bar and I would politely decline his invite to come back to his home for sex. He asked me multiple times, trying to make me feel guilty. Finally he told me he understood I didn't want to have sex with him, but he did want to show me his new home and his invitation was no longer for sex, but merely to have a drink or two. I was in my late 20s at the time, I should have known better. I consider myself to be polite, yet savvy enough to recognize a "red flag" when I see one. Apparently I was wrong. I was really upset with myself. To this day, I won't let anyone just hand me a drink, I watch them either make it or stand next to them while the server pours it. Lesson learned....the hard way.

After multiple messages I agreed to chat with a guy who I met online. He asked if he could please come over wearing a diaper under his jeans? He assured me he didn't have a medical condition it was just a turn on for him. I told him "no" and I looked at his profile and that "fetish" was not mentioned. I understand there may be guys that find that interesting , I am not part of that group. I should have asked if they were Pampers or cloth diapers but I didn't want to give him the thought there may be a chance I would say yes.......Yuck.

Agreed, you were kind enough to give him $10.00. Then he suddenly asks again, after making the remark "Oh, I'm straight. I would think the majority of people would have ignored his plea for the $10, Your feelings that you were generous are spot on. He was trying to "play" you, the fact that he asked for additional cash leaves me at a loss for words. Did he think you were a walking ATM machine? Glad you just drove off.

I have always been curious if the scenario that I have experienced several times would fall under the "incest" category. I may have posted about this previously so if I am repeating myself I do apologize. I only bring it up because I am curious if this qualifies as "incest" because I don't think it is. Or at least, I was not part of it. I had been playing with this guy for a number of years, he was excellent, always on time, appreciative of what I could do for him, the sex was fantastic. He was also someone who was kind to me in other areas of my life, he was indeed a FRIEND with benefits. After becoming comfortable with him, if I was having two guys come over, I would invite him to be the fourth, and he always enjoyed that. Usually those visiting me appreciated him as well, as he is a hung, very talented top who is really experienced and knows what he is doing. One evening I got a message from him, he said he had a surprise for me, and could he come over the next morning. Now I believe I had been playing with him for over five years so I wasn't the least bit concerned. I said sure, he wasn't the kind of guy who kept late hours, we always played during the day time. He was always someone I could relax with, be myself, and enjoy. He always showed up , fucked the hell out of me, spent some time talking about our lives and told me if I ever needed him to drive me to the pharmacy or get me to a doctor, I just needed to call him. You don't find that very often in people, he had a partner, a business, and grown children. This is where the story gets interesting. He showed up as promised, with a guy I suppose was in his mid to late 20s, he introduced me and said this was "Jimmy" and he was his son. At first I thought he was kidding, joking if I could see some I.D. Well, it didn't take long before I was on my knees sucking both their cocks, they were naked together. Now, the "surprise" for me was that his son Jimmy was an even bigger top, I could see the family resemblance, and Jimmy gave me one hell of a fuck. His Dad was still naked, taking pictures of the entire thing. It was not a tag team situation, just me and Jimmy on my bed, I believe I ended up on my head when he finally blew his load inside me. I remember him smiling at me, noticing he still had a retainer in his mouth. But I did get a look at that ID, and he had the same last name as his Dad and was definitely over 21. Now, the fact that they were indeed father and son, both were over 21 and willing to be there, count as "incest"? I don't think so, but when I mentioned it to my BFF he thought I may have crossed a line into something [banned word]. I ended up contacting the son and hooked up with him independent of his Dad, something I felt bad about. But the two of them did come back several more times, and the last time the father asked who was visiting me and was he interested in getting topped by either him or his son It was a resounding success as we paired off. I no longer felt guilty about hooking up with the son with out his Dad as I had introduced him to my BFF who is very attractive and a talented bottom. So what does BZ think, incest or not? I know there have been ads on various sites, mentioning "father and son". Well these two were definitely a father and son duo, but adults, and they had no physical contact with one another. At least that I could see......I think sometimes we hear the term "father and son" and we jump to the conclusion that one of the two will be a minor, and that is not something I would be interested in. Any feedback you guys have is appreciated.....

Nooooooooooooooo....

Agreed, I noticed videos with Antonio Biaggi always zoom in on his balls, which are huge. After he cums, he pulls out and you get to see his "deposit". He does have his own production company, but you can see him working for companies like Eric Videos, T.I.M even Machofucker. He's been around awhile but if you are looking for a guy who goes in "balls deep", Biaggi is your man.

Well that is a sobering post. Quest is the only lab I can use based on my insurance, so I guess I might inquire with my doctor since he reordered my viral load test. I'm being accused of not taking my medication because of a viral load of 111, the nurse made me feel like a criminal on the phone when she said the doctor asked I retake the test before my next appointment. YIKES!

I did respond sort of "tongue in cheek" but I understand what you are saying. Ass and dick are readily available, and for free. If a top really wants to find a bottom, he doesn't need to pay. How many threads have we seen from thirsty bottoms looking for that elusive top, some of these bottoms are indeed very attractive. Granted, geography comes into play. I understand we don't all live in large metro areas, and I know some guys have to drive hours to make themselves available. That is a shame. But it's 2024, and the need for "rent boys" I believe is on the decline. Many guys have adopted the attitude that "size over quality", or "quantity over quality" is key, I don't share that view, and I wouldn't pay for a bottom or a top. I'm not saying the "world's oldest profession" will end anytime soon, many guys who are in relationships or have jobs that might be unhappy with their orientation, have found ways to work around their predicament and find opportunities to get laid. They still have no need to open their wallets. You only have to look at Twitter or "X" as it is now called, and you see all the guys selling their "content". It's a "buyers" market right now, you have to be in the exceptional 1 percent or have porn credits before posting pics and ads saying you are available for companionship. This is not 1991 anymore, guys need to wake up and face reality. As you said "ass surrounded by a glut of free ass". So true.....

Yes and it's active and up and running, at least behind my VPN that is.