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He's extremely hot but he's also what I would consider to be the poster boy for dumb jocks. It's clear that many young celebrities have a hard time with fame and money. So I can understand DUIs and the occasional misbehaving. But for Aaron Hernandez to start killing people and to think that he can just do it, he must be pretty dumb. I hope he has fun in jail with his cellmates. It will do him good.

I advertise barebacking by using glow-in-the-dark paints for quite a while and they work extremely well in combination with black light. The paint charges best with black light. I make signs and t-shirts with short barebacking messages: "Cream my hole". But I will investigate black light inks and maybe incorporate them into my collection of tools to advertise barebacking.

In theory, what you're saying makes a lot of sense. But for me shit anywhere is a complete turn-off, my own shit and definitely someone else's shit. And I would say that most men are turned-off by shit. I've had long-term fuck buddies who have been coming over to fuck me for years (10+) and I attribute that to the fact that I worry about being clean, no unpleasant surprises.

This is the audio I don't like in pornos, when the bottom moans like a girl. Can't stand it! For me a good audio in porn is hot talk from both the bottom and the top. Moans coming from the top while he seeds the hole is hot too.

I think this is one of the reasons why I don't like to fuck, afraid of finding a dirty hole. And having a dirty hole it's a big turn-off for me and I can't get fucked. Did our male ancestors find ways to clean their holes?

I'm sure that when the law was drafted what most likely legislators had in mind were "normal sexual encounters", where the couple will relate to each other as two human beings and would spend some time talking. I doubt anyone who participated in drafting such law had anything else in mind. Gloryholes, darkrooms, group sex in saunas is still taboo. Some people may be ready to accept same-sex relationships and sex between the couple, but the real fun stuff that goes on out there we pretend it doesn't exist. A guy at sauna with his ass up in the air waiting for horny guys to come into his room, fuck him and let them cream his hole, no questions asked. Or, a guy in a darkroom letting guys fuck him bareback. No legislator would ever think or admit to thinking of these scenarios. This is quite different from a situation where the bottom asks for a condom. I agree, that choice has to be respected. But in this case, not being a case of stealthing, neither the bottom or the poz top discuss HIV status or condoms in an anonymous situations. It's unreasonable to expect poz guys always disclosing their status. How about a gloryhole? The concerned guy can always avoid high-risk activities and bring up the HIV-status issue.

Reading fuckboy20's experience he's been having as a poz top made me think that if I were poz I would sometimes get tired of discussing HIV status or having to take my HIV status into consideration before getting involved in sex. I would like to feel free so I would most likely search for anonymous settings where I'm not forced to disclose my status. I'm sure Fuckboy20 would enjoy going on a weekend night to a sexclub/sauna where nobody knows him or his HIV status. Walk around looking into the rooms with the doors half open, lots of hot asses and hot cocks, play with a few cocks, maybe get fucked and take a few loads and never have to talk about his HIV status, until someone brings it up but then fuckboy20 can simply walk away without responding a word. And then when fuckboy is ready to go home he can just cruise around for some hot ass, and with his hole full of cum he can unload, get up leave the room without saying a word, take a shower and go home. If a guy does not bring up HIV status, then it can't be stealthing. Or is it?

I had a shower shot for heavy cleaning but I switched to a "plastic tube" that connects to shower. I came across this system at the sauna Steamworks in Toronto. They have 3 toilets each with an attachment for a tube that you can buy for $5 in the machines at the sauna. A good sauna has to have toilets with douching attachments, especially the Leather/S&M type of saunas, like GI-Joe in Montreal, which also has a private bathroom with douching attachment. But I know of too many saunas with no douching facilities.

I can understand this because I live in Canada but it would still be hard for me to deal with being HIV+, having to disclose it to doctors, dentists, etc. One reason I prefer not to poz is because of the innumerable situations where being poz would be a "pain in the ass." I've had the same eye doctor for years and every year I see him there's always the question "Has your health situation changed in the past year?" I'm glad I don't have to tell him that I'm now poz. How do guys who poz deal with their eye doctor or dentist? One possibility I guess would be to change eye doctor or dentist.

I met a former fuck-buddy at a local sauna Sunday afternoon. We talked for a while but I couldn't tell if he wanted to fuck me or not. Then we decided to walk around on our own. A few minutes later I walked into a room and he's fucking a guy bareback. It really turned me on and I helped him shoot his load into the bottom's hole. After that my friend left the sauna. I decided to clean myself and go back to my room, I put on a mask, a T-shirt with a painted sign ("Cream my hole") and shorts with a hole, and turned off the light. A few minutes later I see the same guy who my friend had just bred walking by my room, I think looking to unload in order to go home. He came into my room and started playing with my clean lubed hole, but did not recognize me as I was wearing a full mask. While he fucked me I managed to play with his hole which was still leaking my friend's cum. The guy quickly shot his load an left the room. I was so horny because I had in my hole the cum of the guy who my friend had bred. I jerked off and soon left and went home myself.

I think that what happened to you was definitely rape. That said, I think it was a fucking hot experience, which you seem to agree: "I do get a boner when I think about it now." My only problem with rape is the possible physical pain. Jail rape may seem "hot" but the truth is that it can be a terrible experience. I once met a hustler who had been raped in jail, he ended up in Emergency and his ass went through a few operations in order to fix his asshole. norcalraw's rape experience at the sauna wasn't too bad in this respect, and one which many of us would welcome.

OK. I agree with respecting the choice of a bottom to always have the top wear a condom when he get's fucked. But I'm divided when it has to do with the fact that it happened in a darkroom. Stealthing, that is, secretly shooting cum inside a bottom's hole, NOT INFECTING, it's a pretty hot scene for many guys. And, as it is with many other fantasies, we want to be able to realize them so we go to sex clubs, darkrooms, gloryholes and saunas to explore, watch, and maybe experience all kinds of fantasies. neg4poz says: Then, he reiterates: Let's assume that this bottom in the bench did get stealthed and went to the sex clinic weeks later to get tested because he was worried that he may have been infected. I doubt he would tell the nurse at the clinic the truth of where and how the stealthing happened. And if he did tell the truth to the nurse, being in the fuck bench in a darkroom, I'm sure the nurse would suggest to stay away from these high-risk activities. What is the answer to neg4poz's and my question: What are the places then for X-sex, where everything goes, where fantasies run wild? Darkrooms in saunas could be one of such places. Although I can understand that a bottom who wants condoms may also want to use the bench in the darkroom. I'm divided on this issue.

I once hooked up with a young guy in his early 20's. When I opened the door I couldn't believe how hot he was. I thought he was going to turn around and leave. But instead he approached me and started to kiss me and we made out. We spent a good two hours together. Before he left I asked him why did he like older men when he was so hot and could get any man he wanted. His response was "Young men play too many games." I think that life experience makes a difference in attitudes towards sex. But also most people as they get older care less about what other people think of them and thus, are able to be more "themselves". It's not that young men "play games" on purpose but simply that they may feel like hooking up but then something "scares" them and they may change their minds. I think it's because young men have more difficulties "being themselves" and too worried about what people may say about them, that slutty young bottoms are so much in demand. The world is full of slutty older bottoms so when a young one shows up he becomes the centre of attention. On the other hand, aging men who like to top don't seem to have any problems finding bottoms, including young bottoms. Many young guys can be very offensive to older men, but at the same time there are many older men who behave very inappropriately with young guys. Some of the anger may come from having had the experience of older men being very annoying. Yes, some men like older and some men like younger. But there is a big difference. Men who like older men may not be drawn to younger men but don't find younger men disgusting as is the case of some men who like younger men and who find the idea of sex with older men disgusting. Older men have to keep this in mind and try not to impose themselves on younger guys. Personally, I never chase younger men unless they show interest in me. To the younger men I tell them not to spit to the sky because if they are lucky and they don't die soon, they will be old too. Also, show some kind of compassion for older men who when they were young, never had the same opportunities to explore their sexuality the way young men can do it today.

In the sauna I go, the one that shows BB movies, the TV room is between the darkroom/gloryhole area and the hallway with the rooms. So a guy watching porn and who starts feeling horny after watching cum drip out of cumholes can either get sucked or walk into the darkroom or look for an open door and a willing hole. I think that watching bareback movies makes many men hornier.

I guess what prompted me to write this thread was the idea of a "victim" of stealthing as expressed in the previous post of a friend who pozed after being stealth. I can accept that stealthing is not an acceptable behavior but at the same time the guy being stealth bares some responsibility and is not just a victim. Especially when this occurs in a darkroom of a sauna. I like keeping the issue of personal responsibility in mind when it comes to stalthing and HIV-status.

Wow! How do I respond to all of this? First, when I talk about stealthing I don't mean infecting someone with HIV. Unlike many guys in this site, my fetish is with cum and not with HIV. Of course, I know that stealthing increases the risk. Second, what turns me on about saunas and other anonymous/impersonal sexual settings is that the regular social rules don't apply in the same way. I can stare at someone's cock or in the dark room I can grab someone's ass without being accused of assault. I can also lie in order to fit into someone's fantasy. For instance, I've been asked if I'm a policeman and I've said yes. In other words, for me these places are places of "fantasy" and behaviour deviates from "civil society". In darkrooms the thrill is having sex with "bodies" and "body parts" and not with people. That's why it's called Impersonal Sex. Condemning stealthing in darkrooms in the way it's been expressed here takes away from the thrill of anonymous sex in darkrooms. Third, I started to bareback almost 20 years ago after I was stealth fucked by someone and I loved it. After that I never looked back. So for me stealthing is a big turn-on. Sometimes guys want somebody else to make the decision to bareback and ask for a condom but they hope the top won't use it. I've seen this happening. This guy in Steamworks could have been one of these guys. Or he could have been a poz guy who is playing at being HIV-neg. I don't feel bad about anonymous stealthing because it's easy to avoid by having sex in less anonymous situations. I like having sexual spaces where "everything goes" and two guys don't treat each other like people but like two horny guys with fetishes.

As I wrote in another post I see nothing wrong with stealthing (or lying about status) in sexual situations that are casual, impersonal or anonymous. So let me present to you a case where I think stealthing would not be wrong at all because it falls in the anonymous situation. This happened at the sauna Steamworks in Toronto. Steamworks is a very good sauna with 2 dark areas. The dark area closer to the front desk has a gloryhole area (not very good), an elevated area for guys who want their cocks sucked, and a dark backroom with a wall of mirrors and a fuck bench. This fuck bench is ideal for cumdumps and many fight for it. When the place is busy it's hard to get on the fuck bench. All you see are silhouettes. If the bench is taken I enjoy watching slutty bottoms and even help them get loads by luring guys into fucking him. This time there was a bottom taking over the fuck bench but he was insisting on condoms. I would help guys to get it hard enough to stick it in the bottom's hole but he would then pass me a condom and not allow the cock to touch his hole without a condom. Anyone in a dark room with his hole lubed should not demand this or that. He should take whatever comes his way. If not, then get off the bench and allow some real cumdump to get on it. At the time I didn't say or do anything but if I were now faced by a bottom in a very anonymous situation who insisted in wearing condoms, I would do everything I could to stealth him. And I would not feel bad at all. There has to be places for men who want to live their most secret fetishes. Stealthing does have it's place.

But apparently you're not sure. Then you go on to say that your friend How can you be sure your friend ALWAYS plays safe unless you were him. Because of all the health consequences of barebacking many men who even occasionally bareback won't be telling everyone what they did last Saturday night at the sauna. Barebacking is the way men will always prefer to have sex so it doesn't surprise me when I meet men who bareback. But it doesn't mean everyone has to know it. I see nothing wrong with stealthing in sexual encounters that are casual, impersonal and anonymous. I'm not sure what the circumstances of your friend were. Was your friend stealth and pozed by his long term partner or by some trick? It's easy to avoid the annoyances and worries of STI's: be monogamous and have one exclusive sexual partner who you trust. Any kind of cheating is then plain wrong. But I cannot make a judgment on stealthing in general. I have to know the circumstances.

I can understand you because when I was young I was very frustrated by not being able to find younger men in cruising places. Most men who frequented saunas and parks were generally older than me and older men were not a big turn on. But unfortunately most men become more daring as they age and are willing to take more sexual risks. Less younger men dare to go to impersonal sex places and are intimidated by the action they may find in these places. brokencpndomtop, you'll always find older men and it's something you have to live with. You'll appreciate it when you get older yourself. In an era of instant communication I cannot understand when young men complain about older men and want them to disappear. Organize through Facebook, Chats, all sorts of sites with profiles parties where only young guys will attend (what's young? You have to be more specific).

My experience with the Sexual Health Clinic is great. I find that if I show them clearly that I understand the facts about HIV transmission then they won't bug me. But if they think that your behavior is due to ignorance then they will give the lecture. With me they don't bother. I find that they are used to hearing outrageous sexual behaviors. I met my doctor at the Sexual health Clinic many years ago (25+) and I've been his patient ever since. We've both agreed that I better get tested at the clinic. So he doesn't have to know about my sexual behavior and how many men I've had sex with.

Many guys promise to themselves to never bareback again.

I've been barebacking for 15 years and I estimate have taken more than 1,500 loads in darkrooms, saunas, gloryholes and fuck buddies. My last HIV-neg test was March 2013. There are lots of bottoms who are HIV-neg. Considering the window period, saying that I'm HIV-neg is not accurate. I was visiting Chile in January and stayed in a great apartment that I rented from HungLatinDom. It was located right in the middle of the gay village in Santiago: sex 24 hours a day. A more accurate negative HIV status should include the date and sexual history since 3 months prior to the test. My HIV status, after having tested March 8th, should be: "HIV-negative on January 8th, and taken several anonymous loads since."

I experience the same frustration when watching porn. Internal cum shots can be faked so I guess pulling out is one technique some producers use to make it "real". OK. I can accept the "pulling out" for the first squirt, but please, stick it right back in. I find that most who pull out take too long before they continue fucking. It can still be hot for me but I much prefer an internal cum shot. For me what makes it real is to see the cum leaking out of the hole a the top slowly pulls out. Then I know that every moan and grunt were real.

I think that the Internet has provided the ability for men to share fetishes and fantasies. In the pre-Internet/pre-HIV days only the extremely brave and shameless would have the gutts to live their fantasies.

I've never tried poppers because I hate the smell, but I carry them for my partners. I lost so many fucks just because I didn't have the poppers with me. In general I like the effect that poppers have on guys fucking me. That last sniff of poppers just before they unload is really hot. I've heard about how great poppers are for bottoms. But I still wouldn't tak them. I prefer to smoke some dope to relax me and make me hornier.