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For me this is the hottest thing that can happen to me. A horny bottom who's been taking loads at the sauna dumps his load in my hole to relieve the pressure. That's hot!

I hope this reminds guys that when it comes to saunas and other anon sex places, especially dark, EVERYTHING goes. Stealthing, not disclosing HIV+ statues, etc.

I find a lot of videos of internal cumshots and real breedings in Xtube. Here's one: http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=Hkwiz-G188-#.U3yNyChfWs0 It frustrates me when the top pulls out because they usually take too long to stick their dripping cock back in. I like those internal breedings where you see the top's hole because I like to see it how his hole twitches when he's delivering his load.

I would never consider myself to "be a bottom". Instead of saying "I am a bottom" I would say that I've enjoyed a lot getting fucked since the first time it happened and toping does not really appeal to me that much.

I had an error when posting the options for the poll. These are the options I came up with: 1. I only have bareback sex with partner/lover in a monogamous relationship 2. I have bareback sex with partner/lover, and also with friend/fuckbuddy using condoms. No anonymous sex 3. I have bareback sex with partner/lover and with friends/fuckbuddy. No anonymous sex 4. I like to bareback with partner/lover/friend/fuckbuddy but use condoms when having anonymous sex 5. Prefer bareback with partner/lover/friend/fuckbuddy but I sometimes BB when having anonymous sex 6. I always bareback but prefer sex with someone I know such as partner/lover/friend/fuckbuddy 7. I always bareback but prefer anonymous sex 8. Only anonymous/impersonal sex and no sex with partner/lover whom I love 9. Only anonymous/impersonal sex and use condoms with partner/lover to protect him 10. Other

I'm always curious about the kind of sex guys have and prefer.

There's no real reason to feel guilty about wanting to have sleasy anonymous sex, which is what I think you mean when you say "animal". The only reason that would justify any bad feelings about anon sex is catching or passing on STIs, but everyone in the anonymous sex environments is responsible for their own actions. Then, nothing to worry about in spite of your possibly high VL. fuckboy20, you say you enjoy taking anon cock and having anon guys breed your hole. I'm sure some poz guy has unloaded in your hole. Should he be feeling guilty because he creamed your hole with his poz cum? Obviously not, so why should you worry about anyone else? Assume the holes you've been breeding are poz, just like yours. Just leave honesty for when you meet guys in non-anonymous situations. When I go to the sauna or a park and I have bareback sex with someone, I don't tell the next guy that I just had raw sex and that I may be infected. But I have done that with guys I know. And it's then their choice to have sex with me or not. I doubt the "animal" analogy is helpful when trying to understand sleazy sex. What would be helpful is to understand that wanting sleazy sex has little to do with "being gay" and more to do with "being male."

"Barebacking and Actually Staying Neg?" I've been barebacking for more than 15 years and I estimate having taken around 2,000 loads, most of them anonymous, and I'm still testing HIV-. Probably lucky because I can't imagine being immune to HIV. I love anonymous sex, basically the only kind of sex I like having. I know the risks of anon sex and I don't want to seroconvert. I wish there was a way of being able to have anonymous sex but with a low chance of STIs.

I had never turned away an uncut cock, but I prefer to get fucked by uncut cocks. The tips of uncut cocks are more sensitive and the walls of a lubed anus provide the right friction for a top to go crazy with pleasure.

It's so hot when bottoms become real horny tops, on the hunt for a hole where to stick their hard rod and dump their load in. Then, they can go home. Dark rooms are perfect for bareback sex, both top and bottom and it's so hot for a top to breed just a hole, and for bottom to be bred by a cock, just a cock. I also see no problem when stealthing is done in dark rooms. If someone will be stealthing it will most likely be in a dark room. It seems so crazy that when a bottom wants to fuck and breed a hole, he can't find one!

Sauna Centre-Ville in Montreal has a potentially awesome dark room, so dark that most guys stay closer to the entrance. Only some brave and horny guys venture deep into the darkroom. Unfortunately there are no slings or fuck benches in there and all there are the walls.

I have a problem with people who know they are HIV+ and who don't properly inform their sexual partners but only when the sex is performed in a socially accepted manner. Most people think of the sex between men to be the copy of the sex between men and women. You first meet, you talk, exchange names, find out what you do, what you like. And then you have sex. When a relationship develops this way the chances of getting the truth about each other's HIV status is almost implicit. I have a big problem if deception takes place in this kind of relationship. It's simply despicable and Worthing using the law. However, in anonymous and impersonal sexual situations, I see absolutely nothing wrong with someone lying or deceiving sexual partners about HIV status. I'm still testing HIV negative and I have no desire in seroconverting, but I know that sexual fetishes are powerful and sometimes uncontrollable. Saunas, darkrooms and gloryholes are there to fulfill these sexual fantasies, and it's simply naïve to expect any honesty in these places. Sometimes deception is the sexual fetish itself and an HIV+ guy gets off on breeding holes. You can't pretend to stop that from occurring because there's a market for it and some HIV- guys use it as a Rusian Roulette (me included) and that becomes party of the source of the excitement. I don't know how I would feel if I were HIV+, what would my fetishes be. One thing I know for certain is that I would get tired of always having to disclose my HIV+ status and having to talk about. I would long for free sex and I would probably engage in exclusively anonymous sex. Because I have no interest in pozing but I prefer my sex to be anonymous, I would welcome the possibility of having anonymous sex and also know that all the participants are STI free.

In response to my question about the ongoing discussion about disclosure: But no poz guy will be put in prison for lying or stealthing someone on a sling or a darkroom or with his ass up on the air in his room at a sauna. It would be like complaining to the police that your car was stolen when you left it running and doors open while parked on the street. The first thing the police will say is "That was dumb." But I do object an HIV+ guy not disclosing his status once they have exchanged phone numbers or had coffee together. I don't see what else can be said. Yes, it's illegal not to disclose an HIV+ status but so is stealing.

I still don't understand why the issue of disclosure is still being discussed. Those who want to decrease the chances of HIV infection should make sure to know their sexual partners as much as possible. Of course, say goodbye to pump & dumps, gangbangs in saunas, etc. By knowing your sexual partners you increase communication and decrease any kind of STI. I've had regular fuck buddies who have got in touch with me when they have any STI, including HIV. But in anonymous settings I know I'm on my own and I can only rely on luck. Here's an example. An HIV+ guys walks into a darkroom. What do you expect him to do? Should he announce to everyone in the room that he's a poz? Total

The trusting issue has a lot to do with HOW one hooks up with a guy you meet anywhere, including BBrt. If I wanted to make sure that a guy I meet online is being truthful I wouldn't jump into fucking right away. I would first meet for coffee and connect with him in a way where we see each other as a human beings. That way one maximizes the chances for being truthful. I once met a young guy I found extremely hot. We first met for lunch and then decided we wanted to have sex. He had never tried anal sex. He had seen it in porn and wanted to try topping me for the first time. I had been tested recently for all STIs and well past the window period. I told him about my tests and that there was nothing to worry about. He fucked me bareback and this was his first time fucking. He loved the way it felt when he was breeding me so much that we tried it again later for a second time. A few days later I went to the sauna and took a few anon loads. A week later the hot young guy contacts me again to tell me that he wanted to fuck me again. We got together but I told him that I did not want to fuck bareback because I wasn't sure of my situation with STIs. I was sorry I took the loads at the sauna because I would have preferred to have sex with the young guys. I was honest with him because I saw him as a human being. In an anonymous situation I would have responded that I was "clean" because my last test was HIV-, although 2 days earlier I had taken a few anon loads.

Mostly, sluttiness is not a bad thing. The only bad thing of behaving in a slutty way is the danger of STIs, not only HIV. But if there was a way of guaranteeing a sexual environment free of infections, I would recommend bareback slutty behavior to everyone, top, bottom, groups. Allowing myself to let go of preconceived ideas on how I should behave sexually has been a wonderful experience. Being able to fulfil sexual fantasies where I have let myself go has made accepting death easier.

I doubt you will stop having sex with guys and I'm sure that one day you'll be horny again and you will crave bareback sex. You are 19 and fooling around heavy with guys since you were 17.

To me the idea of a "tight hole" is overrated because I know a "loose hole" would feel better for the guy fucking me at that particular moment. It's already been mentioned here that not all guys react the same way at the moment they cum. I once knew a guy who fucked me several times over a period of years, and with no exception every time he started shooting his load his body would start shacking and he would ask me not to touch his body. To lower the intensity of his experience I would open my hole wide to minimize the friction around his cock so he wouldn't pull out right away to stop this intense experience. Like many guys here, while getting fucked I alternate between a loose and a tight hole and I try to pay a lot of attention to how the guy fucking me reacts so I listen to what he says, even in a darkroom or gloryhole where I don't see him. While being fucked by a jackhammer top I softly tighten my hole and wait for his reaction. Many times all a jackhammer top needs is a light squeeze to send him over the edge. I always play it by ear and do whatever feels good with that guy at that moment. But where I always do the same with every guy who fucks me, is at the moment when I realize that he is ready to shoot his load. Whether he tells me "I'm going to cum" or I hear the moaning or the breathing, at that moment I relax my ass muscles and make my hole wide open, and let the guy go deeper if he needs more friction for his cock. I may tighten a bit before I relaxed it and after a few seconds, and if I notice that tightening my hole will help milk the cock I do tighten my ass muscles. But I pay close attention because I want to prevent an early pull-out which sometimes are the consequence of a tight hole.

If it was not an anonymous encounter then I would agree with you when you wrote: But the incident described by muscmtl was in a sauna, totally anonymous, therefore in my opinion none of what you say above applies here. As Poz1956 says, it's much easier for an HIV- guy to be honest about his status. Poz1956 explains: I'm still testing negative for HIV but I can understand that I would get tired of having to continuosly disclose my HIV+ status so I would most likely go to saunas and sex clubs where I can feel free and leave morality at the door. Because of this and what Poz1956 says, guys have to understand that HIV laws would be difficult to prove in anonymous situations because these are places of fantasy. HIV+ guys may say they are HIV-, HIV- guys may say they are poz, whatever. Guys have to keep personal responsibility in mind because everybody is into their own sex trip. I see HIV as undesireable but I wouldn't blame no one but myself if I'm the one taking the risks. There are only tow possibilities. You either take risks that you feel comfortable with and be ready to accept those risks, or you better don't take any risks. But don't blame others. But how can you enforce this when many guys don't even know they are poz? I also think that most HIV- guys enjoy bareback sex a lot but do not want to poz. I was surprised to read in the book "Unlimited Intimacy: Reflections on the Subculture of Barebacking" that the author, Tim Dean, focuses on the bug-chaser/giver when discussing barebacking. My perception is that for most barebackers the turn-on is the barebacking experience itself, both top and bottom, with an emphasis on the "breeding" and the exchange of cum and they see HIV as a big nuisance and a huge inconvenience. I can understand "givers" and a guy feeling really turned on by the power of his cum. I can understand the fantasy and the need to live that fantasy. muscmtl said: "I`m about to step out and he grabs my wrist and says in panick you clean ? right ? Of course, no worry I said, fuckin pleased with myself." He obviously enjoyed the experience, but I don't see anything wrong with what muscmtl did because we don't even know if the bottom was already poz. By being ass in the air position and allowing muscmtl to breed him should mean that me is taking personal responsibility and not caring, or because he was already poz. The only way I can understand bug-chasing is as follows. A guy feels the need to bareback and take risks. He knows that HIV is a likely possibility and anxiety creeps in. There are three possibilities (1) Stop barebacking which will stop the episodes of anxiety (2) Continue barebacking but also continue to feel the anxiery of pozing (3) Make a fetish out of HIV infection and enjoy it instead of feeling the anxiety.

I don't know the details of your friend's infection, but if someone is really worried about HIV and other STIs he should stay away from impersonal/anonymous encounters (saunas, gloryholes, darkrooms) and only have sex with guys he knows relatively well. Then the law can protect him. But this law makes no sense in the case of sex with strangers. This law is crystal clear but is intended for situations where people know each others and who treat each other as people and not a hole to breed. Most lawmakers probably have no idea what goes on in saunas and other sex clubs.

I use the dimmer to adjust the light in the room so the signs will be visible. Yeah, some guys like to see the bottom's body and face but some get turned on by the anonymity of the scene.

I prefer to use signs that I place in my room where letters are painted with glow-in-the-dark paint. I once rented a sling room in one of the saunas in Montreal where they speak English but mostly French. One of the signs read "Crème mon Cul" (Cream my hole) and one guy came in, fucked me and bred my hole. But before leaving he told me in broken English that he had come into the room after reading the sign. Bottom calso come in and tell me how hot the signs are.

I think you were right in lying about your status, first because the question was asked after the fact. But also, I've argued in this forum before, that saunas are places that can be used to make fantasies become reality, so it's recommended to take with a grain of salt what guys say in anonymous settings. Maybe the bottom was already poz but role playing at being a slutty negative bottom. Or he gets off on taking poz loads. I've been asked if I'm a cop and I say yes to be part of the other guy's fantasy. Regarding the legal issue, yes, in some places muscmtl could be charged. But I doubt a guy like this bottom would be willing to bring forth a charge. "Oh, yeah, I had my ass up, door of the room open..." Again, in anonymous settings these laws stop making sense. Law makers never think of a case like this, saunas, darkrooms. They think of two people who know each other, start dating, have sex but one of the partners is HIV+ and never informs the other partner. In a case like this I totally agree with such law, and HIV+ people have to inform their partners about their HIV status.

I understand that tops fucking sloppy holes loaded with poz cum can also help infecting the top.

I'm sure that many guys can understand where you are coming from. We all want slutty sex (top, bottom, group, anonymous, darkrooms) but we are also concerned about STIs, whether we are poz or HIV-neg. No matter what some guys may say about HIV bringing sexual freedom the truth is that no illness or infection can bring freedom. One solution to this dilemma regarding sexual freedom would be to have a mechanism that can guarantee a certain level of sexual health. I know that this this idea sounds utopic, sort of like a "credit rating" of sexual health. I don't see any other way around it. We men need, at some points in our life, to experience the way fuckboy20 is describing. Wouldn't it be great to be able to participate in sex orgies knowing that all the men have gone through tests? Some groups could be of HIV+ men guaranteed being Hep-B and Hep-C negative. It would require strict control but I have the feeling that many men would follow the protocols in exchange for guaranteed safer fun.