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I'm always very critical about the ambience in saunas and sex clubs. When I go into one I look for all the changes that can be made to improve the chances for guys to have fun. This translates into owners making more money. One of the local saunas has one double room with a sling in it and no public sling. Guys had access to the sling but only if the guy renting that double room agrees to leave the door of the room open. If no one was renting the sling room, the sling was unused. So I wrote to the owner/manager of the sauna and suggested a few simple changes. One my suggestions was that the sling room remain open for public use unless someone wanted to rent it. It took almost 2 years until I read in Squirt that now the sling was available for play to anyone. A simple change added a lot of value to the place. Now someone renting a locker can jump on this temporary-public sling and give other guys a nice hole to fuck. My most common issue with saunas and sex clubs is the lighting. Most places don't provide adequate dark area for guys who like anon sex in dark rooms. A sauna in Montreal has 2 or 3 public slings but all in places with lots of light. The usual explanation I get is that guys like to see who they fuck and who fucks them. I say maybe some but there are others who prefer very anon scenes, hopefully without even seeing who fucks them or who they fuck. If a sauna has 2 or 3 public slings put one sling in a place with light, another a bit darker, and the third one in a VERY DARK place, maybe with some blacklight around. In Santiago, Chile, there is the sauna 282 which is very crowded on weekends. They have made absolutely no improvements to the facilities other than installing more lockers and some "bags" where you put your clothes in when lockers are sold out. Past 3am it's packed with mostly young guys drunk and horny after the bars, but most guys are stuffed in a dark hallway on 2nd and 3rd floors. There is a semi dark room but not good enough that also has a big mattress which ends up full of guys sleeping. Next to the dark room there is an old Jacuzzi room which now doesn't work. I would close the entrance to the Jacuzzi room and open the entrance from the dark room. That way provide a very dark area for guys ho like it dark and anon. Because of the Internet saunas and sex clubs are fighting to stay afloat. But saunas still offer something special, a more anon action. In a sauna there's no need to discuss stats, including age. Just look at each other and go for it. How to improve them? If I were involvement in the design of a sauna or sex club I would device a system where "quick-tops" can get serviced for free. A quick-top is a horny guy (doesn't have to be a total top) who wants to quickly get off because he doesn't have the time or because he likes it anon. Most guys in a quick-top mood are not willing to pay $10 for a 10 minute anon blow-job. But if there was a way for a quick-top to get serviced anon and for free, I'm sure most would gladly accept the offer. But how can this work? I'm thinking about the layout of my local sauna which is in a basement and with two entrances. The back entrance which is close to the gloryhole/dark area, is now a service and emergency entrance. Paying customers would come in through the front as they do now. The back area would have be remodelled. The back entrance would have access to a hallway, a small bathroom to clean up, and a set of small cubicles where once the door is closed the guy must be standing up forced to be a top. This area would be monitored by the cashier to make sure rules are followed: no talk, one at a time in the hallway and playing among quick-tops prohibited. Right now if a guy wants quick no nonsense service during lunch or after work, he must pay. Few guys will pay for a 10 minute blow job or breeding session. If the service is free horny guys wouldn't mind a quick service, even a 5 minute blow job. After all it's free. This would probably increase the number of paying customers looking forward to sucking anon cock or getting fucked anon. I know it's a crazy ideas but I find that saunas and sex clubs have to be more creative in the services they offer and that way offset the Internet.

I know that many bottoms "are done" after they shoot their loads. When a bottom is hogging a fuck-bench or a good gloryhole I try to make them shoot their loads in order to free the fuck-bench or gloryhole. It works. At the sauna GI-Joe in Montreal there's a sling in the basement. Last time I was there a bottom was hogging the sling so while a top was fucking him, I made the bottom cum. As soon as he shot his load he pushed away the top, got off the sling and left. I took over the sling and took the top's load. Sometimes a certain gloryhole is better than the others with more connecting holes. At the gloryhole area in my local sauna there was a bottom hogging the best GH and I wanted it. I did my best to make him cum from the neighboring gloryhole. As soon as he shot I heard him pick up his room/locker keys so I quickly took over the best GH in the place. Yeah, many bottoms need a break after they shoot.

I think that most bottoms prefer not to cum while being fucked even those bottoms who can continue getting their hole pounded. I prefer to focus on the top. If I cum while getting fucked for a few seconds I have to focus on myself too much so I prefer to avoid shooting my load while I'm getting fucked. I like to focus so much on the top, even while watching porn. It annoys me when in porn I hear a screaming bottom because it masks all the noises coming from the top while he plows the hole. I prefer to talk dirty to the top fucking me and keep the moans to a minimum.

I'm planning a trip to Palm Springs myself so I've been looking at CCBC's website. I'm interested in one of the rooms facing The Walk and with hooks for a sling. I called them and they do have a few small rooms facing The Walk and with hooks for a sling. Does anybody have any experience staying at CCBC and trying The Walk?

I find that hook-up sites/Apps like Grindr or Craigslist are better for setting up more impersonal adds than sites like BarebackRT where you have to make a more permanent profile. If I were to setup a take-all-loads scenario in a Hote/Motel I would use Craigslist. If I'm travelling I would use Grindr. On the other hand if I were a poz guy wanting to get off and who's looking for a pump-n-dump situation avoiding the HIV questions, Craigslist would be a good place.

I don't have enough sex nowadays as to justify taking PReP every day. But I spent a month in Chile, South America, where I had a fair amount of sex. Unlike Canada where most guys have a place to get together for sex, in South America many times guys live with their extended family and need a place to go for sex: The saunas! Friday nights and Saturday nights one of the saunas is absolutely packed with horny guys. I rarely see a packed sauna in Canada these days. But also online using Grindr one can get a lot of action if one has a place. I had so it was great. But now I'm back on the waiting game. Waiting for the 12 weeks of my last trip to the sauna so I can test for HIV. Although I didn't get a fuck flu, testing positive would not be a total surprise. And this is where I get a glimpse of guys who wanna convert. What would I do and how would I react if I tested poz? I'd like to think that I would be in the mood for lots of raunchy sex once I know I'm poz. Then maybe being a top would be a turn-on, who knows.

I agree with MaxC, which means that I disagree with the view that all those who bareback, especially bottoms, are bug chasers. Wanting to breed and to be bred have been part of the man-to-man sexual repertoire for centuries. Barebacking has nothing to do with wanting HIV.

It's not easy to tell whether a bottom on a sling or fuck bench is effeminate or masculine. From my personal experience I would say that the most sought after bottoms are the younger ones. If the bottom other than young is also masculine, then even better.

In terms of making money I'm sure that you would make more if you did not restrict yourself to being a bottom. Let the client ask you for what they want and go from there.

I try to avoid scheduling a hook-up too much ahead of time. Unless it's one of the regulars whom I know well and is never late. Hook-ups made ahead of time can fail even because of a simple "no longer horny."

I don't mind bottoming for the same guy as long as the action is anonymous.

I like my butt to be smooth when I go out to saunas or sex clubs. I find that I like the feeling of the tongue directly on the skin around my hole. Also, for someone who is a bit squeamish about rimming, a smooth hole may be better. It feels cleaner.

Years ago I remember how health officials would insist that the risk was almost the same for both tops and bottoms. I think this position had to do with the fact that no one was completely sure. Also, from a public health point of view it makes no sense to say that it's OK to top because every time someone tops bare someone else is getting fucked bare. Another important factor that was mentioned here before is that some guys have a difficult time accepting the role of a bottom and feel embarrassed about it. These men may top most of the times but while drunk and horny they may occasionally bottom and keep the fact that they did bottom to themselves.

My first time was bareback right when the AIDS crisis had started. Then everyone started wearing condoms. Maybe about 20 years ago a guy was fucking from behind with a condom, he stopped, then he fucked me again at which time I noticed it felt better, but wasn't aware that it was bareback. When he pulled out he quickly took care of the condom for me not to see it, and whispered in my ear: "I left you a present" and he left the room. I touched my hole and go so turned on when I felt it leaking with his cum. I never again wore a condom.

The only thing I can say is that I would have never taken risks when I was young. At around 45 I decided that I had to take risks if I wanted to have anonymous sex which is the kind of sex I really enjoy.

In my case, it used to be pretty easy to clean-up, maybe 1/2 hour or so. When someone was coming over all I needed was half hour or so. Years later I started noticing that following the same procedures I was having trouble to "feel empty" and now I need a lot of time to prepare. Sort of the same situation as Mike_thieriot

I know PrEP is becoming very popular, sort of like a party drug. Guys go on PrEP, feel immune to HIV and that way have all the sex we all dream in saunas and sex clubs. But, how long can a person be on PrEP? How long have you been on PrEP? Any problems?

Because MaxC is in a relationship with a woman or plans to be in one with the ultimate goal of raising children, HIV should not be his only worry. Herpes, Hepatitis and many others are also of concern. Some infections affect women in ways that they can never bare children.

I love it when I'm able to feel the cum being injected into my hole, when the load is big and it lubes my hole. But what turns me on the most is to hear the top's heavy breathing just before he cums and his moaning and his guttural groaning. The aftermath in my hole feels really good.

I'm looking for a Motel in Toronto for a sex party. I want a Motel because I want guys to be able to drive right up to the door of the room. Any info appreciated.

I much prefer anonymous sex because it's always fun.

It's hot to see the cum shooting out of the tip of a cock, but it's even hotter when the cum squirts out of a clean hole. I'm all for "deep inside", so much that every time I'm getting fucked and I notice that the top is starting to shoot his load, I whisper "go deep when you shoot" and I open up my hole to make it easier for the cock to go deep.

Although I've organized gang-bangs at home, they are definitely more likely to succeed at a sauna. But of course, a lot depends on the bottom. Young slutty bottoms are in more demand so a guy in his 20's has a better chance to get tops and organize a successful gang-bang than a guy in his 50's, 60's and older. My gang-bang experiences were in my 40's with a max of 5 tops. I had to put some rules in the GBs at home because I didn't want other guys who came over to be bottoms. I wanted my hole and their cocks only, but also because it was my home I did not want any "accidents" with bottoms who don't clean themselves properly. Guys understood that I was to be the only bottom and the reason made sense to them. Gang-bangs with only two tops ware a lot of fun, taking turns fucking me while making out with each other. My ideal GB is when guys take turns fucking and then they cum one right after each other: as one pulls out the other goes into my creamed hole. At the saunas GBs are just spontaneous and it's usually accomplished by leaving the door of the room open while one guy fucks you. To spice things up I use special clothing and signs with hot messages. By the way, being fucked more than once at the sauna and taking a few loads is not a gang-bang. To be a GB more than one guy has to be fucking me while the others watch and take turns. I once took 12 loads at a sauna but I never considered that to be a gang-bang.

I think it's unreasonable to expect HIV- people to be educated on HIV and be free of stigma. No matter how "safe" an undetectable guy is, the HIV virus is still in their body and no HIV+ person should expect total acceptance. Being HIV+ makes life more challenging and many people may not want an LTR and complicate their own life.

Fuckboy20, good for you that you can allow yourself to enjoy being used as a slutty bottom. Keep up the good work and never feel bad. Take advantage that you are still young because bottoms get more attention when they are younger,