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Not sure if 4 and a bit years counts as a LTR , but here's what is currently working for us: we have an open relationship, and we're both of the mindset that fetish play, "play" or sex for sport is something that's fun but has no emotional attachment. The only emotional attachment is between us and not open. Separating sex and love is a key thing to seeing play with others as non threatening. That said, we have a few rules we both follow, like no overnight tricks - always come home - and sharing guys if we think it would work. we play separately (mostly) and together (sometimes). When we're out in London or berlin we look out for each other and help each other out getting what and who we want - "wingmen".

Also... Have never been into the whole wrestling thing, but boxing yeah definitely. Used to have a guy who enjoyed sparring and fighting and it was great working up a sweat in gear throwing and taking punches. It was supposed to be a fight for top - winner fucks loser, but we quickly realised it was easier to take turns as neither of us wanted to win! Another guy I played with sometimes was in the army and we'd gear up with gloves, head protectors etc., and tussle and fuck, but it was interspersed with throwing random punches (in gloves) and blocks. I had to ask him to dial it down because he was really powerful. I recall there was a hook up site called 'meet fighters' or something for arranging this sort of thing - that was a while ago - I bet it is long gone now!

Yup, me too... One of my things is I'm really into getting trampled - and I like it quite hard. Football cleats/Soccer studs especially. Bonus if they're muddy from playing. Really gets the adrenaline and endorphins going - if I could find more guys who'd trample me I'd get addicted to it, I am sure. Always do this with sober guys as I did get injured when a guy who'd had a lot to drink went a bit far in Stahlrohr and cracked some ribs. But I love looking in the mirror and seeing the bruises from the cleats.

Sundays I often head into London and go to SOP at Central Station, but today Chiltern Rail have a maintenance day, so there's no trains. It was a catalyst for a change and doing something different, so after a session at the gym and a light lunch, I prepped myself and headed over to Luton Greenhouse Sauna. I quite enjoy the trip there as the cross country route has some excellent biking roads through some great countryside and on a sunny afternoon the journey is really nice. Anyway, I guess I got there about 2pm and was given key #5. Uh-oh. Low key numbers usually mean it is quiet. And it was. But quiet doesn't necessarily mean there's no action. Sometimes I find it tends to focus guys. And I think this was one of those occasions. First tour, I spot a guy I recognise from BBRT kneeling on the fuck bench. A few guys hovering around but everyone is too timid to start anything. So after a few minutes of sussing everyone out, I went over and fucked him on the bench. It felt well moist and I asked him how many loads he had in there. He said three, which really turned me on. The show seemed to get the other loitering guys a bit more riled up and a latino looking guy came and stood real close. I wasn't quite ready yet to pass the guy on and was hoping I wasn't going to get usurped. Next thing I know, latino guy's hand feels up my lubed hole and he slides in behind me.... So we had quite a nice three way chain going on... me fucking the guy on the bench and latino guy fucking me, and a bit of an audience. Latino guy didn't last long and then left the scene so I decided it was time to explore more and left the scene after a moment. I often think when you go to these places it's good to get some public activity in early so guys can see you're seriously up for it. And that did the trick nicely! So cruised around a bit and then decided to position myself on the fuck bench and see what came along. After a couple of minutes I became aware someone was close and again a hand explored my ass. I wanted this to be anonymous so took a hit of poppers and buried my face in the towel as he lined himself up. He wasn't as big as latino guy but he was a lot more forceful. It was really horny taking it not knowing who it was. He paused and asked if I wanted to go to a private room. I'm up for that if it means more fun and as I looked up to reply, I saw who it was - a really nice bear cub guy I hadn't seen before. I picked one of the private rooms that has the two way mirror window so guys can watch without you knowing, and we spent a good long time trying every position out to see how deep inside he could get. He really liked pinning me down with his weight and being a bit rough trying to get as deep inside as he could - eventually he shot the second load into my ass, which was great. Talking afterwards he was visiting with a mate and asked if they could both tag team me - so I said I was well up for that. (Sadly they both vanished shortly after) A short bubble in the jacuzzi and a can of Budweiser later the first guy who I fucked on the bench came and found me - he said he was leaving soon and wanted to give me his load - so we went upstairs and I really enjoyed a good session with him as top. It was so horny knowing I was getting his load after he'd got loads from other guys. (When we did sex-ed at school, I remember being told if you have sex with someone it's like you're having sex with all their previous partners - I think that was to discourage teenagers sleeping around - little did they know it turned me on hugely!) So that was my third load... And then the place was *really* quiet. I sat in the jacuzzi alone for a while watching to see if anyone was passing by to the darkroom behind. Nobody. One last tour and there were only two or three guys around. So time to get changed, have a cup of tea, and enjoy the ride home - the vibrations of the bike on my ass reminding me of what's marinading inside...

I like this idea, but I think the stakes have to be a bit higher for a no-show or not finding a replacement for it to be effective. Limiting the time window is also a good idea. (I like that Laboratory in Berlin have limited entry between 10pm-Midnight as it kinda focuses guys)

There could be something in this. Is it becoming mainstream? Probably. I like the variety offered by a group and because it is a small group guys tend to play together rather than endlessly search for the perfect guy which is what happens at some of the bigger events and venues. When you go to the Vault, you often see guys glued to their phones looking for the next guy when they are in a room of horny men!

I think my point was that they were using the group/party/event feature when perhaps the "Quick Connect" feature would be more appropriate if they are looking for hook ups as it's not really a group/party/event. Particularly when many of these ads have zero attendees and they don't respond to invite requests. As for tops organising parties - if I'm in a top mood, then I can only realistically give my load to one guy, but as a bottom I can take as much as I want. So I think that's why more bottoms organise stuff as it is in their interest. I have seen tops organise parties where they are whoring out a bottom guy, but that's a different thing. I appreciate those that are putting themselves out there - just a bit frustrated there are an increasing number that pretend to be.

I think you are right... most of the poorly attended parties are just bottoms fishing for more tops. I get what you mean, but my schedule means that Funtime has to be planned in advance as it usually involves travel. Waitrose may be better for shopping but my local Asda takes some beating for cruising. It seems to be very popular with Eastern European workmen who are away from home working here for long periods. 😈 That is another story.... Yes - signing up for more than one party and signing up but not in the area are not good indicators. I'd love to see a feature on BBRT where you can leave comments/endorsements/reviews on guys profiles. Then it might be easier to spot flakes. In the specific area box I usually select "Islington" as that is where I stay/work. I sometimes select London as an area which shows all of the city. That is also where I set up and look for parties to get widest coverage.

So I've noticed lately when looking at the 'Greater London' zone on BBRT - which is usually the most active London area - that the parties section seems to be dying off. There still seem to be guys advertising parties but nobody is requesting invites or signing up to attend them. If you look at last Sunday's parties (and it's a holiday weekend) there are six listed, with 0,1,0,1,3,2 attendees. If the hit rate of people actually showing up is 1-2 in 10 then this doesn't seem very successful. I am sure it didn't used to be this quiet. What's happening? You occasionally and rarely see a successful party advertised and it has maybe 15+ attendees listed. But I don't understand why as it looks nothing special compared to the others. What's different? It makes me wonder if I am missing something! I will also say I've noticed that if you request invites to parties in advance, you often don't get accepted until maybe an hour or two before and by then I've made other plans. Is this another level of internet flakiness? Is this unique to London? What gives?

Some years ago I joined the local municipal swimming pool and gym. The gym had a separate sauna/steam/jacuzzi pool for men/women and mixing was not possible. It wasn't popular as it was a bit in need of refurbishment. I had a few good encounters there - usually stray hands in the bubbly water in the jacuzzi - but a few in the sauna and steam too. it was quiet enough you could do stuff but you had to be discrete and careful. Then it got closed for refurbishment - and they joined the mens and womens sides together. It wasn't anywhere like what it was and the jacuzzi only yielded the odd fumble. A couple of years after that it got closed for repairs for a week - and when it reopened they had filled in the jacuzzi with concrete and turned it into a patio area. When I asked why the staff said it was due to persistent anti-social behaviour. I'd have argued we were being social, not anti-social... A: Totally agreed. I've often wondered how this is achieved. B: I am sure there is a Ministry of No Fun. They are the ones that make rates and licensing costs absurdly high so gay bars, clubs and saunas have to close. They make legislation preventing places from having darkrooms. They also close the public bathrooms, and cut down all the vegetation at places where men like to go for walks.

I think you've illustrated my earlier point: the problem is that guys state what they want: "...all my control taken and just used..." without saying what they are prepared to bring to such a group to help others achieve their goals, which is what this is about. With too many takers and not enough prepared to give as well, the group won't work. I think that's why you get closed "groups of friends" that arrange things between themselves. The two I've been involved with have one 'lead' guy who decides who's invited and organises the group. Getting invited is a matter of being recommended by an existing member. If you engage with the group and have a compatible attitude then you get invited to the next one. As an aside think about online profiles - is a profile that says what you have to offer more likely to get responses than one that says what you want? Maybe both? A.x

Hey - this is a good idea... So many guys are just 'into' whatever get them off. As there are so many bottoms/subs out there I think we have to help each other out from time to time as the numbers just don't add up. The cruising apps seem to push people toward being more selfish with their needs. A group that is more about helping each other achieve goals would be interesting to me.

Headed to SOP at Central Station on Sunday - wondering if any other BreedingZone guys will be there? Bank holiday weekends are usually very good!

I can't make Friday unfortunately, but I'm very much up for a trip to the Heath some other time.

Totally agree. Sweaty Pits or sweaty socks/trainers are like catnip for me!

Hottest thing I've read on here... totally pushed all my buttons as sneaker sniffing is my A1 fetish...

Pants numbers can be variable - but when it's good it's very good. Seems to be random. If it turns out to be quiet then try Vault 139 which is a couple of stops on the bus away or walkable. That can be randomly busy/quiet and the crowd a bit fluffy at times.

Agreed but in the UK the Impact PReP protocol seems to be to get a consult, then abstain from sex for two weeks, then get tested with a high sensitivity test, results took about a week in my clinic then go back for the impact trial prescription. It takes about 4 weeks in total with NHS appointment availability being what it is.

Yay - that's excellent news!

Was chatting to someone at SOP in London the other day and they said that the darkrooms/playspaces in Boltz were closed when he last visited. He was unclear if it was a one-off or longer term. Any locals with inside knowledge know what is going on? I was planning a trip to Birmingham soon and was hoping to visit as I got some good loads in Boltz last time I was there...

Not just the homeless... I remember in my clubbing days, London prices were such that many younger guys used to plan to sleep in the sauna rather than pay for a hotel room when visiting the capital for a weekend of partying.

Just noticed this and it made me LOL.

Haha... maybe wiggling isn't the best word... Rocking or swinging back and forwards a little so there is some forwards and backwards motion shows you're engaged and willing. If you're just motionless you could be asleep!

This doesn't work so well now everyone is staring at their phones - they don't notice you cruising them. Before smartphones it was great picking guys up almost anywhere. Its also kinda sad that even if you're in a cruise bar or club these days, guys are more interested in Grindr than who's actually cruising them IRL. I also found that it was a lot more successful if I was wearing my contact lenses. If I was wearing glasses it almost never worked.