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Obviously. Farther up this page BootmanLA listed a number of terms that described various structures, and questioned how I defined my own relationship some years ago. That's the whole point of discussing these things, and I find his replies insightful. I added my thoughts before his reply, and considered a number of "status" descriptions. What didn't appeal to me was the seeming lack of recognition of the intensity of the commitment of the two men in the principal relationship as described in the definition of "open" relationships, so I used the term "polyamorous". To me, it's the meshing of everything - mind/body/spirit - that allows that ineffable "connection" between two (or potentially more, I suppose) men. The term "open" just seemed too lacking in the foundational commitment, with all the rest being an "up and extra". Bingo !! I agree with you, in that any relationship not built on that firm foundation of open, honest communication has too much sand mixed into the mortar to expect it to last a lifetime. But then, that's only my perception. Every guy gets to decide what his own definitions are going to be.

I very much enjoy eating a wet Hole. The wetter the better - makes it all the more exciting knowing that the bottom has taken multiple loads before I happened along, and thus is comfortable and takes pride in practicing his Lusts over and over and over again. Not that I mind being the first of the cumdumps night - someone has to be - but I'd much rather be the 5th, 6th ... 10th, 12th. It's not so much a "need" - like eating (food) or breathing - it's more a huge pleasure.

Ahhhhh .... then it's an attempt to gather personal information - for mostly nefarious means, I assume. Well, I'm glad I don't use those apps anymore. It's a lot easier to just go to the places where men Breed, and those guys aren't "bots". Thanks for the explanation.

I do .... but I won't let my tongue go exploring if there's any off-putting scent of unpreparedness. I've always thought of it as a Hole's pre-cum - except maybe a bit richer in all the important ways. It's like the cumdump's actual body hollering for loads, not just his voice. It's also like iron filings to a magnet. 😈

Probably, but not for the reason you may think ....

Well, good luck to you too, kinkatx. But I'd rather you stay and fight for Equality, Justice, and Democracy. We can right the wrongs, if we - as a nation - determine that it shall be so.

Maybe partially - but obviously not wholly.

LOL ..... well, at least now I know that there's one less "thing" out there in the ether I have no clue about ..... 😊

Is "bots" a contraction for "robots"? I'm sorry guys have to put up with this stuff. I knew what "ghosting" was, but I'd never heard of "haunting" !!!

It may be possible that you didn't notice my tongue firmly planted in my cheek?

I think we should pass a resolution in the new Congress to the effect that there was no 45th President of the United States. Only a mickey that slipped through on a bed of hatred.

Of course. The underlying question therefore becomes, Why Is This So? Obviously. Which means, therefore, exactly what needs to happen? Certainly. Hardly intelligent, yet quite clever, he pried up the rocks under which this inequity - or better, fear of loss of dominance - has festered for centuries. Now. What institution in this Nation has so thoroughly described the very definition of "inequity", that the perceived dominance of one group of citizens - terrified of losing their (here's a hint) privilege, that they will do anything - literally anything - to preserve it? Witness 1/6/21. Trump (the individual) isn't more than a fart in a windstorm. The fears he stirred up, the fires he fanned, have been with us for centuries. I cannot agree. The dispossessed and disenfranchised want only equal opportunity, equal rights, equality before the Law. Obviously there are some that want to grab whatever they can get - and it's hardly a wonder. They've been disenfranchised for centuries, down to this very day. The group in question well-deserved the "covid checks", just like everyone did. What they want and deserve is the equal opportunity to lift themselves out of the circumstances imposed upon them. This question has gone unanswered for centuries now, and the answer is both utterly simple and seemingly impossible at the same time. There simply needs to be a national awakening, a reckoning, and a substantial course-correction, These maga people are scared to fucking death that their sense of privilege will be erased, as well it should have been many many years ago. There needs to be a complete and thorough national effort to finally, finally deal with the filth of our forefathers, once and for all. It may take work on the Constitution - written in large part by wealthy men who got that way off the bleeding backs of their "property" - to right the wrongs. One thing is crystalline however: unless we figure it out, we won't - and don't deserve to survive as the "shining city upon a hill made by enslaving our fellow human beings", as a particularly vacant man once intoned. Exactly. One political party actually tries to improve opportunities, the other offers only efforts to placate the repressed and keep them "in their place". For that matter, anyone that isn't like them is to be targeted. Truly decent Americans of other faith traditions (recall those ridiculous little boys with the tiki torches from Walmart) walking (hardly marching) mouthing an ancient, unspeakable hatred fomented by their Caucasian forbears. More of "the other" to hate. Ever wonder why the British slave-traders chose Africa to steal human beings from and sell into slavery? Because they were clearly, visibly different than Caucasians. Can't be mistaking pale people for slaves now, can we. They have to look waaay different from "us". To the immigration issue: unless we have Native American blood coursing through our veins, we are either immigrants ourselves, or descendants of immigrants. I trace this current self-reflection of the American People back to the murder of George Floyd. Millions of American Caucasians - drifting through their privileged lives - nodding in agreement with the commentary of the disenfranchised, yet unable to recognize any of the causes in themselves - were suddenly, violently hit directly in the face by their complicity in the repression. Unless we are actively working to dislodge the inhuman depravity of Institutionalized white privilege, we are actively (if passively) supporting it. Looking the other way just hasn't cut it for all these years, and there's no reason to expect it to somehow redress the situation. The Republikans have been obliquely using this fear of losing white privilege to their own advantage (I mean personal advantage) since the early 1960's. It simply cannot continue. Thanks to both ErosWired and BootmanLA for the excellent discussion. Apparently there are others who responded while I was writing this - so a round of thanks to every guy.

Thank you, BootmanLA, for the comprehensive reply. When ShotsFired mentions 'Americans waking up ...', I do think he's got a point. Civics isn't taught in public schools anymore, and the resulting ignorance has been showing for some years now. But, the American voting population managed to wake up in time to take the requisite action. This time. But it's not just abortion rights: it's a comprehensive effort to destroy Democracy - i.e. the idea that active participation in Government is required of the citizens. Now that Orange Jesus has thrown his Cheeto-colored pompadour into the ring again (reasons are debatable, of course), we're in for another tiresome shitstorm sucking up the energy of everyone.

Shooting the load all over the Hole is a waste of Sperm, unless there are cumjunkies at-the-ready to at least lap it up and snowball it to each other. Then, at least it's not wasted. But - in the absence of that scenario, loads belong deep in the Hole, where the Cock put them. Spraying our essence all over the place is only for porn, thus proving to the viewer that the Cock actually did shoot it's load.

I like em completely natural. Love body hair, particularly Holehair. I guess we often like what we don't have much of ourselves.

Was about to, but thought the better of it, and I just shouldn't ........

As some of you guys may know, I don't use the hookup apps at all, mostly because they've been disappointing more than they've proved productive. What I can't figure out though, is why some guy would want to carry around the knowledge that he's lied to other guys, mislead other guys, misrepresented himself, all of that negative bs, and it sticks to us. There's no way to do some shit, and then it simply disappears. We carry the shit we've done with us, however ephemerally, and it piles up after a while, whether through the ether or in the flesh. When it starts to outweigh the kind things we've done, we're only fucking ourselves up. It doesn't cost one thin dime to be decent to our brothers-in-the-life, and it accrues negatively when we don't. I had to learn that lesson the hard way, but I did learn it. For that matter, the principle applies to every aspect of our lives. It's so much easier to just be upfront, respectful with each other. And then, get down to the tasks at - well, for some guys, at 'hand", but for most of us probably more generically queer.

Clearly more than I have, and in greater depth. BZ is the only website I use at all, and it's well-regulated, so I don't experience a lot of the problems other guys do. Hopefully someone will figure it out.

In a nutshell, the above quote from BRF applies across the board. Why any guy would be so lazy as to ask tricks about their sero-status, actually trust that the guy standing in front of him with a hard Cock waiting to fuck, and actually believe what comes out of his mouth, is way beyond me. Take care of your health first, and then hit the fleshpots with all the Lust you possess.

I can't find the 'applause' doo-dad, so ..... clap clap clap !!!!!

To the original question though, I have to admit that I would find it a bit cheeky. I well understand the reason for asking for proof, which is the fact that a certain percentage of us haven't figured out yet that it's always best to be honest, or at least parry and then move on. On the other hand, I have never carried the requisite "proof" in my back pocket, and I rather doubt I ever will. When asked, I answer honestly, and I know there are are guys that lie. But, if my answer isn't enough, there are plenty of other guys that don't ask, and only want to take loads. Those are the guy's I go to the backrooms/fuckjoints for in the first place.

I think what you're describing is endemic across the country since the "secret veil" was ripped off a certain segment of our population in a different context. Once dishonesty became the coinage of a large chunk of the population, the coarsening of our society has deepened quickly. The fact is, where would men like me be without cumdumps? Up a damn creek, that's where. Once the binding elements of any social structure are gnawed at enough, the binds loosen, and the behavior worsens. I think you can and should call out these self-encrusted men that steal your stuff, make appointments and not keep them, all of that negative stuff. The internet may enable them to behave selfishly, but it can also enable them to be shamed for their own selfishness.

Be careful about the Swedish. I got a "warning" from one of the moderators for saying exactly what you said to a guy in Sweden - just for saying "thanks" in the language of my birth to a fellow Swede.

Obviously true. It's pitiful, but it's all too commonplace. OK. I'll buy that. It's how the acts are conducted that's important, not the verbalizing (or would that be writingizing?). Well, how about communicating then .....

So do I. We can't control the actions of others, but we can control our own. Take every precaution available, and then decide if you're comfortable with doing what you want to do. In other words, take the responsibility away from the trick, and shoulder it yourself.