Time For Me To Decide.

[BootmanLA]

3 hours ago, Darcicrisis said:

Damn, people wanted an update and I gave them one. God forbid something didn't stay within the lines. I'm done posting anything on this site.

I'm not objecting to you making an update. I'm saying that the whole topic could easily be moved by a moderator to a more appropriate area, given that this really isn't a health discussion any longer. (But I will note: all the discussion of what panties you're wearing, how deeply he entered you on his first thrust, all of that - that's irrelevant to the actual HEALTH question you raised initially, which had to do with whether you should agree to take a load from a poz guy. Those are points best raised in a section of the site devoted to describing one's sexual exploits.)

One of the real issues on this site is organization. Even when a post initially fits a topic - as yours did, when it was introduced - time, intervening events, and the nature of the discussion can render it inappropriate for a particular part of the site. And while it's not the case here, there's a serious problem with new members joining and then their first, second, or third post is a personal ad ("Looking for guys to do X or Y or Z") in the midst of the health forum, the porn video forum, the fiction forums, or whatever. Even worse are the ones who decide to post a tale - true or not - of some sexploit, full of details like a porn story but with a line or two at the beginning just to nudge it into another area. There are lots of places on this site where one can post true and fictional sex tales.

Nowhere on this site is this issue a bigger problem than the health forum - not because there are more "misplaced" posts here (although those are frequent), but because people who are looking for accurate, up-to-date health-related information have to sort through so much else. I have no problem with posts encouraging people to chase HIV, for instance, as long as those are in the Bugchasing area. This area is set aside for discussing the health consequences of our actions - sexual and sometimes otherwise - and the issues involved in making those health-related decisions.

[Darcicrisis]

49 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

I'm not objecting to you making an update. I'm saying that the whole topic could easily be moved by a moderator to a more appropriate area, given that this really isn't a health discussion any longer. (But I will note: all the discussion of what panties you're wearing, how deeply he entered you on his first thrust, all of that - that's irrelevant to the actual HEALTH question you raised initially, which had to do with whether you should agree to take a load from a poz guy. Those are points best raised in a section of the site devoted to describing one's sexual exploits.)

One of the real issues on this site is organization. Even when a post initially fits a topic - as yours did, when it was introduced - time, intervening events, and the nature of the discussion can render it inappropriate for a particular part of the site. And while it's not the case here, there's a serious problem with new members joining and then their first, second, or third post is a personal ad ("Looking for guys to do X or Y or Z") in the midst of the health forum, the porn video forum, the fiction forums, or whatever. Even worse are the ones who decide to post a tale - true or not - of some sexploit, full of details like a porn story but with a line or two at the beginning just to nudge it into another area. There are lots of places on this site where one can post true and fictional sex tales.

Nowhere on this site is this issue a bigger problem than the health forum - not because there are more "misplaced" posts here (although those are frequent), but because people who are looking for accurate, up-to-date health-related information have to sort through so much else. I have no problem with posts encouraging people to chase HIV, for instance, as long as those are in the Bugchasing area. This area is set aside for discussing the health consequences of our actions - sexual and sometimes otherwise - and the issues involved in making those health-related decisions.

To be honest this post had been started so many years ago that I had not even considered what topic it was originally posted in and was just caught up in giving the outcome of what had been brought up earlier. If I knew how I could have moved it or just erased it all together I would have.

As I said earlier at the risk of offending or breaking any rules I will just go back to my usual comfort zone and just not post anything more in the future.

[PozBearWI]

39 minutes ago, Darcicrisis said:

To be honest this post had been started so many years ago that I had not even considered what topic it was originally posted in and was just caught up in giving the outcome of what had been brought up earlier. If I knew how I could have moved it or just erased it all together I would have.

As I said earlier at the risk of offending or breaking any rules I will just go back to my usual comfort zone and just not post anything more in the future.

Clearly you're feeling some frustration @Darcicrisis.  And indeed as threads often seem to morph the "most appropriate category may as well.  

As @BootmanLA initially pointed out; this whole thread perhaps should be moved from the originally correct category, to a different spot because it clearly morphed.  You @Darcicrisis aren't at fault here.  I am unaware of a flag I could set that might alert moderators when any of us observes a thread has veered in a different direction.  If there is @BootmanLA I imagine you would know.   How can we bring morphed posts to moderator attention?

[BootmanLA]

On 10/21/2022 at 3:29 PM, JimInWisc said:

I am unaware of a flag I could set that might alert moderators when any of us observes a thread has veered in a different direction.  If there is @BootmanLA I imagine you would know.   How can we bring morphed posts to moderator attention?

The only way to do that is to report the topic and suggest where it might better belong. If the moderator(s) agree, they have the tools to move it.

Unfortunately, this entire folder ("Making the Decision to Bareback") is pretty much a non-health area now. There was a time, before PrEP, when discussing the reasons to bareback or not meant it was inherently a health discussion, because there was no way to bareback and still remain relatively protected. So in that sense, this group of topics once was a health issue.

Now it's not, and as is evidenced by the tenor of recent topics - "I Bareback ONLY, No regrets ever", "What turned you into a bare pig?", "Bottom should accept poz loads?", for examples - this section is quickly becoming another "Look at meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee how trashy can i beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?" part of the forum.

And that's fine - but those aren't health discussions.

Unfortunately, the moderators have their hands full with other things, but what the entire "Health" section needs is a major pruning - moving large numbers of threads to other areas, locking certain topics, and then more aggressive day-to-day management of making sure posts here have to do with health issues. That said, while I can diagnose the problem, I can't fix it.

[PozBearWI]

45 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

The only way to do that is to report the topic and suggest where it might better belong. If the moderator(s) agree, they have the tools to move it.

Unfortunately, this entire folder ("Making the Decision to Bareback") is pretty much a non-health area now. There was a time, before PrEP, when discussing the reasons to bareback or not meant it was inherently a health discussion, because there was no way to bareback and still remain relatively protected. So in that sense, this group of topics once was a health issue.

Now it's not, and as is evidenced by the tenor of recent topics - "I Bareback ONLY, No regrets ever", "What turned you into a bare pig?", "Bottom should accept poz loads?", for examples - this section is quickly becoming another "Look at meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee how trashy can i beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?" part of the forum.

And that's fine - but those aren't health discussions.

Unfortunately, the moderators have their hands full with other things, but what the entire "Health" section needs is a major pruning - moving large numbers of threads to other areas, locking certain topics, and then more aggressive day-to-day management of making sure posts here have to do with health issues. That said, while I can diagnose the problem, I can't fix it.

Thanks and I agree.  I presume to messaged a mod who might consider relocating?  As I was describing, topics sometimes; perhaps even commonly veer off the original post.  And in many cases especially when it is an old thread; guys jump in perhaps years into it and rarely go back to the opening and start reading the whole thread from the beginning.  I could favor an automated feature where at 12 months they all go into a backroom vault. 

No matter the topic, keeping it current would make sense.  For example, "What's it like to be poz?" thread is several years old.  Yes so much has changed from the start of that thread to now.  Maybe it would be best split up...

 

[BootmanLA]

8 minutes ago, JimInWisc said:

Thanks and I agree.  I presume to messaged a mod who might consider relocating?  As I was describing, topics sometimes; perhaps even commonly veer off the original post.  And in many cases especially when it is an old thread; guys jump in perhaps years into it and rarely go back to the opening and start reading the whole thread from the beginning.  I could favor an automated feature where at 12 months they all go into a backroom vault. 

No matter the topic, keeping it current would make sense.  For example, "What's it like to be poz?" thread is several years old.  Yes so much has changed from the start of that thread to now.  Maybe it would be best split up...

 

I agree, and I've actually thought about some changes like this that would make sense, but it's getting them done - and that's not a knock on the moderators. It's not something I'd want to take on, time-wise, and can't imagine most people here would, either.

[PozBearWI]

3 minutes ago, BootmanLA said:

I agree, and I've actually thought about some changes like this that would make sense, but it's getting them done - and that's not a knock on the moderators. It's not something I'd want to take on, time-wise, and can't imagine most people here would, either.

Yes.  Perhaps simpler would be to close off topics that have been running a year and let them restart as they will.