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ISSUE: We're having technical challenges... There are several key technology gaps that create issues: Accurate Online Status: This has been discussed already, but it's not unreasonable to "auto log" people off after certain period of time. For many (incl. myself) that would be preferred. Some apps, so impossible to kill, have me signed on 24x7. This would clear out some. Current "Need" Declaration: A dialog box when you logged back in that asked "Whatcha here for?" where you had to choose "Sex, Now" "Jerk to Content" or "Discover new people" or "Chat" or "Not sure yet" (just e.g.) could help filter further. The default could be "not sure yet" so people who ARE interested in other things would benefit from declaring they are interested in more. File Sharing / Messaging: Every single platform makes it harder than anything current day to share pics and videos. It's just cumbersome. Messaging is crappy - and assuming you want to stay on platform, using it as a real time or "email-like communication" system doesn't work (hence why everyone jumps to Telegram). Lack of real "chat" capability or chat rooms doesn't allow for connecting without siphoning off. Profile "Update": If a photo has been there for X years, perhaps a quarterly reminder to "update your profile / pics" could help reinforce the message that a real profile is valuable. Like what you get on other sites. Maybe listing below the photo "last updated" on each photo, or on the profile overall. This could help with a "credibility score" type concept. Just a few things I thought of RE: this. I got more.

I might annoy some people, but here goes - I'm gonna make a few posts. I wrote up a response to this and then somehow it got erased - I even researched some about this (I still can't have sex so I've got too much energy to spend on this). So, I'm gonna write and post some separate thoughts. @PhoenixGeoff I really think you did a great job on this and I loved your posts. Plenty of other great points too... ISSUE: Action Oriented versus Profile Oriented The reason Craigslist worked so well back in the day was that it was clear as shit (when people used it well) what people were looking for, where and when that occurred, and key states that might matter. E.g. here is a posting from 2005 I found in my inbox: Headline: BB Neg Cumdump, Want Loads, Hosting, POZ friendly (Queen Anne, Seattle) - M4M Body: Anon pump & dump okay, poz ok, pnp okay; will be blindfolded ass up, come in and breed, door unlocked This is one of the reasons I think the sites DO NOT work effectively for hooking up the way Craiglist did. Craiglist gave you what you needed to know to take action. With BBRT, by comparison, I unreliably know if someone is engaged in the site at all, I don't know when they last indicated they were interested in WHATEVER, and while I can filter by people based on attribute (poz/neg, top/bottom, kinks), they may or may not be honest about it so that too is unreliable. Does everyone that likes WS actually check that box? Also, CL adds were ephemeral - after you got what you wanted; you didn't have an identity tied to the ad. Comparatively, profiles attach you to ALWAYS being that profile - so even though I may like WS, that doesn't mean I need it every time! Quick connect and similar ads on BBRT and other sites do NOT fit the need for REAL TIME indication of looking/want.

I've always wondered why some LGBT, black, people with disability, etc. choose to vote for far-right movements but maybe it's the wrong question: what do progressives WRONG, that's more complex to answer IMHO, our positions are fragile and we must try to gain people's trust again. Starting from self-criticism, by beginning to look around our "comfort zone". I don't mention Trump specifically because it's all over the world. Italy has Salvini and Vannacci, two pro-Trump/putin folks. Meloni, the prime-minister, is a woman, and is right-wing oriented; less extreme than the other two, but there she is. In France, Marine Le Pen is a woman, and is far-right. Last but not least, Alice Weidel from Germany is lesbian, married to a non-white woman, adopted 2 or 3 kids. And she's one leader of AFD, Alternative Für Deutschland far-right party (Elon Musk has attempted and attempts to pressure Europe to follow far-right). In UK there's Nigel Farage, in Hungary we know Orbân, south America has its far-right movements too. Not to talk about Santiago Abascal (Vox party) in Spain. Well, there are many, many women and LGBT folks voting for these. From my progressive point of view though, I think it's too easy, dramatically too easy, to pose this question: "why do they vote this way?" I think the question must be reversed: what did WE do wrong? If we want people's trust again, we should think back. Talking about inclusion in many perspectives, not thinking we're the only ones to have the correct way of thinking. One guy here has already brought the "diversity policies" in companies matter. I am not against the philosophy originating DEI itself, because most people self-claimed "pro-merit" are the ones who feel as their own human right, to discriminate someone for sex orientation, skin color, disability, HIV status, etc. The American army itself is pro-merit, against DEI, and if you are trans or HIV positive you have no longer chances. A white, hetero and neg, has more chances than another, for their anti-DEI policy. So? If extreme DEI is wrong, the other one is worse! The conflict exists, needless to pretend nothing; if I have to hire a programmer and have two candidates, but one free place only. And I have one white-hetero-cis without disabilities, and I have a [random underrepresented group] person. With SAME professional skills. I would make a mistake hiring the one """normal""" _because he's """normal""" and the same I'd be wrong to hire the other one _because_ they're [part of random underrepresented group]. Laws about diversity should consider this: "test abilities of both, put both on an apprentice period, then choose according to real merit". On the paper, both can write anything inside a resume or linkedin profile. But they can't lie if they face work head-on. The wrong way is forcing to hire percentages of underrepresented. If you have to hire 50 percent latinos and a Caucasian with suitable experience comes to your place, sending him away because then you overcome the percentage of caucasians, isn't appropriate. Same for the opposite. If you have already overcome the percentage of [underrepresented] and you have another one coming, while no """normalized""" ones with same skills, you should hire that one. I even know about companies who prefer paying penalties rather than hiring people with disability. Because there is no EDUCATION about it, percentages without awareness are just slogans. I also have to tell this. In 2022 I came out at work as HIV positive. No issue after that, but it's another story. But at yearly webinar/course on diversity and inclusion, I took the mic, brutally: you discuss about feeling comfortable in talking about religion, sexuality, disability, skin color. But which DEI program counts HIV? Who would feel comfortable to talk about health this way? Who is on ease when sharing they are under chemoterapy regime for cancer? Inclusion is complex, is not just made of charts and propaganda. Facts, folks. Facts. I almost covered half the webinar as the teacher had NOTHING MORE to say. I was hired for my skills in computer and security, not for my status and sex orientation; I kept it private for years. Gradually building trust, and coming out when I felt on ease to, not being obliged to. DEI should make you feel comfortable in being yourself REGARDLESS of who you are, not about hiring someone just for "diversity" criteria. Then, about progressive extremism vs. far-right, I'd suggest a book to read, for reflection: it's by Caroline Fourest, offended generation. I think it's in English as well. I hope, at least! And about far-right / politics, I think safety is the key they're pushing, and we must be aware it's a problem. Computer attacks, on-street attacks, my mother has been robbed a couple weeks ago; there are too many folks who do not follow the simple rules (even pissing on monuments), then far-right propaganda pushes on immigrants only, while this behaviour comes from anywhere. But with those problems at least perceived as urgent, far-right has found the simplest way to persuade people of being able to solve it. And they fell into the trap.

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First cock was the first cock I ever touched that wasn't my own I sucked. Big daddy responded to my ad, he was visiting and had a hotel room. He was in jeans and I was eager and on my knees before a word was said. Iirc, he put me there. He unzipped and his pants fell to the floor. I can still hear that heavy thunk on the carpet of his belt buckle. He grabbed the back of my head, and just like that I had a cock in my mouth. It was soft, but not for long. He slowly started fucking my face. He wasn't large so all I had to do was swirl my tongue and suck as he pulled out. He got hard fast and then started to pump. It didn't last long. I remember his cock got rock hard and he released my head and made sure I kept the rhythm he set. A few seconds later I felt a thin spurt of cum. It was sweet. I prepared myself for more, but that was it. I was so disappointed. I kept sucking anyway, but got nothing. Then, I heard him exhale and his cock started jumping in my mouth dropping fat wads on my tongue. I remember being struck by how warm it was and how much there was. He then pulled out, hiked up his pants and left. He never said a word to me. I swallowed as the door closed behind him. It was pretty hot.

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We returned to our conversation. "I would think with you fucking her earlier today you shot your load", Rick questioned OMG did he hear us, crap I am in trouble I thought. "Oh you heard us" I said in a shy scared way like I got caught doing something wrong "Yeah, she was moaning really loudly. Sounds like she was enjoying your cock", Rick said "Yeah, she did" I said awkwardly. My cock started to get a little soft. "She came didn't she", Rick asked "Yes she did. How do you know?", I replied "I heard her scream and the way she moaned. How do you know when she cums" Rick asked "I can just tell. Her pussy squeezes my cock", I said "Am I in trouble? She just wanted to see my place. We didn't stay long and she wanted to fuck cause we hadn't had sex in a longtime" I said in an apologizing tone and nervous cadence He laughed," It's ok, it's natural. You are handsome man with a beautiful body and a gorgeous cock. If I were her, I would want to have sex with you too. You are so sexy Dan.", Rick said stroking his cock looking at me. I could feel his eyes ravaging me. My rock hard cock suddenly started to leak more precum. "Thank you, that's very nice of you to say that", I said blushing. I felt warm all over. Like the cheerleader being told by the football team quarterback that she was beautiful. "Did you cum when you fucked her" Rick asked "No" I replied "Why not?" Rick asked "I don't know. I just didnt'. I just wanted to get her off and finish" I replied softly "Do you still enjoy fucking her" Rick asked "I guess so", I replied "So haven't cum yet today or in a while" Rick asked "No" I said as my cock was rock hard sticking up and oozing precum "Do you stay rock hard when you fucked her" Rick asked "No not really, it was difficult to stay hard after a while", I replied not sure why I was so honest with him. He looked at me and smiled and nodded stroking his mammoth meat. I stared at his cock. Then the TV action got louder. There was something about the moaning of the bottom yelling and begging the top to cum in him. It caught my ear for some reason and I looked at the TV. Rick noticed and smiled back at me. The bottom was in bliss being fucked. It reminded me of Jane and other girls I had fucked who had the same look. I looked back at Rick and stared at his cock. "How can it be bad to have such a huge cock", I asked inquiring "Well everyone wants it and sometimes you end up with someone who you didn't know everything about", he responded "Can I ask you a personal question", i asked "Sure fire away", he said "Is that how you got HIV", I asked "Kind of. I was with a guy who I liked and we were dating. We had a lot of sex not just as a couple but with other people", Rick said

I got up to use the bathroom. I probably drank too much beer, this always happens. It's just after 2:30am and I was still buzzing from all the beers and shots I took at the bar. I finished using the bathroom and heard moaning. I walked to Rick's bedroom and his door was open. I peeked inside slightly so I wasn't seen. He was on his couch watching gay porn on his TV stroking his cock. It was a young guy about my age and same body type on the bottom and an older guy around Rick's age on the top fucking the boy. The bottom boy was moaning and the top guy had a huge cock. The guy on the bottom was moaning from being slowly fucked by the hung guy on the top. It was strangely erotic. I didn't know why. I wasn't gay. I just fucked my gf earlier today. "How was your evening with Jane", Rick said I thought should I turn around. I decided to go in. "It was fine", I said "Come and sit with me. I could use the company", Rick said I walked in side and his eyes affixed on my body. "God your beautiful and I love your outfit" Rick said devouring my body with his eyes. "Thank you. Sorry my usual clothes and underwear are dirty. And oh crap sorry I am in my underwear. I should put some shorts on" I said pulling down my shirt and started to turn around. "Don't apologize, I saw you in your swimsuit and we swam naked yesterday. It's cool. Just two guys hanging out", Rick said "Its okay just sit down and relax" Rick said I obliged and sat down next to him. Our knees slightly touching. Sitting down I could feel my back of my underwear bunch up and so did the front, my cock protruded out more from my briefs. Rick handed me a shot of whiskey and a beer. We toasted and took the shot and chased it with beer. I thought I better slow down. He handed me another shot. "Thanks, I will take this in a bit. I had too much at the bar", I said "That's cool take your time", he said "You doing ok", I asked "Yes just bummed. I was supposed to have a friend come over but he flaked", he said "Someone your dating", I asked Rick laughed, "No a hook up friend" "Oh sorry to hear he didn't show up", I said. "It happens. I am happy you are here", he said as he kept stroking his cock "Just watching some porn", Rick said We both looked at the TV and saw the bottom taking a huge cock. The bottom was moaning and begging the guy fucking him to fuck him harder. "Harder harder, fuck me, pound me" the guy on the bottom was saying. I looked down at it and his slow stroking, precum leaking and his cock all wet. "You like looking at it don't you", he asked "Sorry I didn't mean to stare. It's just so big. I've never seen any like that before, that big", I responded looking at him, our eyes connecting. "Yes, it is. So is yours, " he said stroking his cock and looking at my cock. I didn't realize it was rock hard pushing out from my underwear. "Your cock looks like it is enjoying the porn", he said "Ugh yeah", I said. I went on to cover it up and also say because I hadn't cum in a while too it must be that. My cock was pushing thru my underwear and there was a large wet spot from it leaking so much. "Sorry to hear that you haven't cum in a while. Boy you are rock hard and leaking.", Rick said "Why don't you take it out. Let it free. It's so hard it might break in there. It's only us guys", Rick said laughing softly I pushed my underwear down slightly to let it out. It sprang out and some precum flicked onto my leg and his. "Oh sorry about that" as I reached out to wipe it off him. I finished wiping it off myself and he said, "Don't let it go to waste boy, go ahead and lick it.", Rick said He reached out and softly touched my hand and led my finger to my mouth. "Go ahead its your boy, you've tasted it yesterday" he said I opened my mouth and licked and sucked my precum. It tasted sweet and a little salty. "It tastes good doesn't it", Rick asked. I nodded. "Porn is porn whether straight or gay. It's to adults enjoying each other's bodies and pleasure. It's normal to get aroused. I know a lot of straight guys who watch bi or gay porn and get hard" Rick said in a comforting manner

Of course we not only should know better, we should understand that there are other folks (possessing equal agency as we do) with points of view that make no sense to us, just as our p.o.v makes no sense to them. And there's everything right and nothing wrong with discussing opposing points of view (assuming a certain level of decent manners is observed). No one enjoys being dissed, thus it follows that no one should do that to others, either in person, or from behind some electronic screen. Throwing typo-turds at each other advances no one's p.o.v. I completely agree that we gay guys, fucking on the fringe of "acceptable" behavior, should know better. Bad manners impress no one. Decency of discourse invites said decency in return. We, of all people, should understand that.

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At age 67 the vast majority of men who top me are younger, mostly in the 30-50 range. A few have been in their 20s, a few 50+, but as straight women have pointed out men in my age bracket look for younger partners mostly. I've been fortunate to find some tops who can appreciate the level of, er, experience I have. 😏 Other than pursuing possibly illegal connections, I'm open to all - literally and figuratively!

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Mine did. I was straight as a stick all through my 20s/early 30s. In my mid-30's I started experimenting with guys, usually when playing with mf couples or mixed groups. By my mid-40s I was fully invested in mm sex, to the point that now in my mid-60s I'm almost exclusively sexual with men. I started as a total top, soon became fully vers, and now I'm bottoming as much or more than I'm topping.

That's a brilliant idea. Should be a great road trip.

I do miss the Hotel Penn! Spent a couple of wild weekends there giving my hole to anyone who wanted it.

Waking this thread up. We have a years worth of the Trump administration and agenda. A year ago, we had several supporters and defenders of the Trump administration, but none of them responded to this question. But my questions remain, i do want to understand, because i do not believe all of those who voted for or originally supported Trump can be fit into one neat group (e.g. "MAGA"), and that there is the ever present inclination (and danger?) of stereotyping... which i think we as gay guys should know better? In an effort to parse out the diverse: 1. Did you vote for Tump? 2. What were the reasons that you voted for Trump? 3. Do you believe you got what you voted for?

I was studying abroad in Spain, and spent a weekend in Chueca. I was 20 and the first gay bar I went to was Disco Club Mito. My buddy ditched me to go fuck in the bathroom. I was still too much of a prude to do anything.

I've had a few, most of them in the 1990's when I lived in Illinois, Texas and Colorado, so mostly in those states.