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What if the buyer has no other options, he can't meet anyone either online, on an app, or in person. What if he is handicapped or disabled in some way. Don't you think he has the right to make the decision to pay for sex? Then think about the guy who can't pay rent, is going to lose his car to the bank, or has little or no food. If the individual who is in the position to help this guy out financially, why not? Who is being hurt here? Not the guy paying, because he can't find sex on his own and has the financial means to pay for it. The recipient could be one step away from homelessness......so what is wrong with the two of them coming into an agreement to help each other out. Sorry but I disagree with you on this subject.

To be honest, I wasn't aware what an awful thing my friend had done until after I had sex with him the first time. It was the guy who he was staying with, who flew him from Washington state to Florida who said, "hey google Cody *******" after I leave and that will tell you a few things about him" Well I did just that, and spent several hours reading all the stories, watching the television interview he gave to a cable network, and reading the final dispensation (?) of his case. So say I was stunned would be an understatement. The guy never asked me for a thing, except a piece of ass which I was glad to give him. I know he did not have sex with his host either, considering he flew him from another state I would think that was part of the deal. I asked them both, privately, and both denied any kind of sexual encounters. We didn't really discuss his arrest till about a year later, on his birthday. He asked me, how am I going to get a job at my age (maybe 33 at the time) with a felony conviction? I didn't know how to answer that. As far as the political party the elected official was part of, I really don't know. That never crossed my mind. What i did know what he was married and had children, who I believe were grown. There was some grainy hotel footage of my "friend" coming into the hotel, I suppose that is when he handed him the extortion letter. The bottom line is he refused to pay, and ended up resigning. This all happened in Spokane, not Seattle. From what my friend tells me, Spokane is a much smaller city and his family was furious with him, having dragged their name into the press. It seems they owned some kind of family business and they took a hit from his behavior. I found that surprising, because the first article I found online mentions clearly he's an escort, and even appeared in a T.I.M video - I believe Damon Dogg sucks America, the San Diego version. He also did some other BB videos, from studios that never caught on. So his behavior had to be known to his family. You mentioned cutting off contact with him. I see your point, he had "sticky fingers" I know there were posting on A4A stating that he had stolen from several individuals. Even the guy who flew him from Washington, he treated him poorly. My "friend" just disappeared, and I happened to be the last one to see him as we had hooked up maybe two days prior to him ghosting everyone. I later asked him why he didn't tell his "host" he was departing, and he said that he felt he was being pushed out of the house, there were guys coming and going, and he was asked to give up his bedroom (that was true). I never knew him to work the entire time he was in Florida, though his host ran several small gay novelty stores so he may have helped out there. I treat people the way they treat me. He was always fun to be with, the sex was fantastic, and he never asked for anything or stole from me. He always arrived by cab and left by one. So did I enable him? I don't think so. Once he left my friend's house, he hung out with a guy in Tampa for a while. I believe that prompted some of the postings on A4A about him stealing. I do know he is back in Washington state, where at I am not sure but another poster on BZ mentioned they saw him either on Facebook or another hookup site. He's just a chapter in my life, I enjoyed my time with him, and I don't judge him. He is paying dearly for his behavior.

I believe "Ghosting"comes in all forms. Before I moved to the "big city" of Saint Pete, I lived in a more rural, yet accessible, part of Florida. Right off I-75, near some colleges, blah blah. Several years back, I met a very polite, very handsome young man who was in his first year of college. The friendship was not one sided, it wasn't just about sex. He was struggling with his sexuality, his religion, his parents, etc. He would come by once or twice a month, mainly oral sex, and I never pushed for anything more. We met off of Adam4adam, and in that geo area that app was very popular. He told me about his part times job as he navigated an ambition computer and engineering degree. He worked for organizations like P.A.L., as well as the as the Geek Squad at Best Buy. Not only did we have a sexual relationship, I was willing to listen to his concerns regarding being a Catholic and how his sexual orientation was really upsetting his parents. I told him he was welcome to come by, as long as he called in advance. That worked fine for us. He did small favors for me, driving me to Walgreens to pick up scripts, even putting a new router on my computer in the middle of the night, as he had the keys at Best Buy. Computers were definitely his thing, and I needed all the help I could get in that area. He would never accept money from me, telling me rides and installing computer items are things friends do for other friends. He showed up one evening and told me had been accepted into graduate school, and things were going to be tough as he probably couldn't work, the course load was rough. Again, never asked me for a penny. Nor did I really offer him anything, other then my time. He also was becoming increasing frustrated with the quality or the types of guys he was meeting online. Not one would let him fuck them, for a multitude of reasons. He has a great body for someone who is maybe 5 foot 5, and a very large dick. He felt the guys were either too feminine, or he wanted only white guys, or they could not take his cock. So, I heard this complaint for a number of years, he even talked about becoming a bottom because he thought that would make life so much simpler. He is Hiv-neg, and I always had condoms in the house. Magnums for him just in case. I had a young blonde guy over, who was in my living room, and my friend came into my bedroom upset, telling me the guy had rejected his advances. I was "feeling no pain", and sort of lost my patience, and told him to just put the damn condom on and fuck me. He did that, I saw stars, and I think he shot his load in just a few minutes. This sexual situation continued for about another year or two, it became more infrequent, but I still would get the occasional phone call asking to come over. On multiple occasions, he told me "this would be the last time", "no more sex", "I am not gay", etc. etc. Okay, so I am dealing with a very bright guy who is confused about his sexuality and is now (I pray in his mid-20s) as I realized by that time I had known him about seven years based on pics I had taken. So fast forward several months, and I am on the work platform Linkedin. Surprising in my geo area there is my face, right next to his, as well as another guy who has frequented my apartment and we all knew each other. So I reached out to my young friend, and I say "Hey, Congratulations! I see you got your M.S. Degree in Computer Engineering, that's fantastic! At this point we were only texting, and his response was "Well, I would like to know how the hell you know that???" I was really taken back, and I said well your LinkedIn profile shows where you went to school and where you worked. All the information he had given me over the years matched his profile. So he was being honest. At that point all communication stopped. No more late night booty calls, no more texts from a gmail account, and he wasn't on adam4adam. I also watched, before my eyes, as his Linkden profile was deleted. I would refresh the page and it was gone, I tried every way possible to get it back. I even called the third guy we knew and he tried pulling it up, he too was unable to find it. So I left my little city in SW Florida and came to Saint Pete and happened to sign on to Adam4adam. I noticed a profile, with no photo, saying "This user has blocked you" or something to that effect. Now I had just moved in, I had not mentioned to him I was moving, I had told virtually no one. However, after reading the description, he said things like, NO ONE OVER 35. In caps, like I just typed. His age seemed to match perfectly if what he initially told me was true when I first met him Here's my RANT. So I appreciate other posters and what has happened to them. I made myself totally accessible to this guy. I turned down other guys that were more sexually experienced or would give me what I wanted to a routine basis. I listened to his problems, and yes he was a good friend to me on several occasions when I would never expect someone I knew from a hook up app would help me. I was so sick one time, when he drove me, shirtless and without A/C and waited in Walgreens parking, I stuck a $20 bill in his glove compartment for gas money and his time. I remember he called me, totally pissed off, saying that friends help friends, and don't expect to be paid. He said I made him feel like a whore. I never treated him like that, I thought I was just showing some appreciation. So why after seven or eight years, would someone totally ghost me. I didn't force him to do anything, I felt I was a good friend, and yes I made sex available to him when he wanted. Anyone else have a similar situation because I cannot wrap my head around what happened? It bothers me to this day. I do have a gmail account I could contact him with but I don't want to seem like the desperate kind of guy who wants a 20 something to come over. Should I just drop this and let it go, it does linger in my mind about how much time he spent with me in that first apartment, how much I know about him and I do have questions. What did I say or do wrong that he would totally blow me off?

I understand there can be SOME legitimate reasons for outing someone. I just took a look at the polling, and I see that posters seem to favor keeping a person's sexuality a private matter. This subject hit's close to home with me, in a very random way. I have an "acquaintance" (fuck buddy) who met an elected official in a book store in Washington state. That elected official was dressed in drag. My "acquaintance" decided that the $1300 they agreed on for sex was not enough, and he wanted something like $30.000. The official refused to pay. So here we have an elected, married official who had to come out to his family, resign his position and lose his wife and kids. Now, he wasn't responsible for that, my "friend" plead guilty to a felony in Washington state and now, because of that, no one will hire him. He lived in Florida for about a year where I got to know him, and again, his background kept him from finding gainful employment. I never asked him during sex whey he did "what he did". But when I googled his name, sure enough, there he was with his attorney being interviewed by Dan Abrams and some other conservative (?) talk show host. The fact that he tried to extort money ruins everything. Now had he gone to a publication like "Out" or the "Advocate" and mentioned the two exchanged money for sex, I might feel differently. His life is ruined (well, in my eyes it is), the elected official has lost plenty, so no one wins. Is this a "normal" outing? No, it's not. But if my buddy has just kept the $1300 they agreed upon and went on with his life, everything would be different today.

Wow! Now that is what I like, a man with confidence! Geez, do I wish I lived on the west coast. One think that "stopped me in my tracks" was he was born after the year 2000, I don't know how I could seriously look him in the eye knowing on Y2K New Year's Eve I was climbing a pole in Lake Tahoe (and not the kind of pole we all enjoy on this site). That is one tempting offer. Wondering who will be the first to take him up on it and "Kiss and Tell"?

Do the math guys. If you are in your 30s or 40s, and you have been sexually active since you were a teenager, you are going to come across some kind of STD. Say you hook up twice a week from the time you are 18 t0 45. So that is what 104 evenings multiplied by 27 years - now it's time to get sick to your stomach. You don't think, after doing the math, that you are likely to catch some STD? OF COURSE YOU ARE!! The bottom line is, get to your doctor, or public health clinic. Get treated, remain abstinent, and try and contact as many guys you think you may have infected (or better yet, let the public health clinic do that for you). I find it amazing that guys on this site, who live and breathe sex, are so shocked to find out they have some kind of STD. Come on!

NO, NO, NO, NO! This is a privacy issue. Jesus May, and Joseph shut your mouths. It is no one's business if a person comes out of the closet. It is NOT your business to tell the world because you sucked his prick or he fucked you. SO WHAT? Shut your rancid little mouths..... This "holler then though"attitude needs to stop. Your PERSONAL beliefs can DESTROY someone's life. Just shut your mouth and your ass and keep his business PRIVATE.

I think for those that are negative, and want to stay that way, I would assume whatever option is more effective would be the one they select. However, how many have insurance that will cover prep, and are they in an area where they can get to a doctor willing to administer it? I would think the pill form might be easier for those who live in rural areas, and can get the medication mailed to them. Good luck to all of you...

Well, maybe we should ask Republicans that question in the US. If abortions and all forms of birth control were available for all women, any time they are in need, they might not worry about unwanted pregnancies. They also might be a little more receptive to the sexual advances of our heterosexual counterparts......

It's so sad CL is gone. Like you mentioned, if they said they would meet up - they did. No one cancelled, no one just blew you off. These guys were on a mission, their time was important, and it created a lot of regulars. If there was a down side, the fact it was so anonymous made it difficult to track down some of the guys once CL dropped the personal ads. Some found me again on Doublelist, but some I doubt I will ever find again.

I can agree with that....to an extent. I would think, since you're an attractive guy and of a different skin color, guys would come flocking. I know I would, being different in a crowd of men I find a turn-on. But that's me, you know your city, and what the people are like. If I go to an organized event, say at someone's home, I sometimes reach out to the host and ask who is coming, It gives me an idea as to what the demographic breakdown in. I don't really mind what the ration of white to black, to latino to asian, really is. Though sometimes it is nice to get a "heads up" that someone attending may not be someone I am particularly fond on. By checking in advances as to who is attending, it has prevented me from being in some awkward situations. I do understand what you are saying.......

They can detect it on a phone, but not on my MacBook Air - I have done it, so I know. What causes issues is having to create a new email address (like a hotmail), as well as using totally unrelated pictures, and of course, your geo-location that you actually live in. I live in Florida, and I have mine set for NYC. So far, it has been six months as as long as I turn Malwarebytes on for my "Malware Privacy" function I haven't had an issue. Sorry to hear about the problems you are having, I don't know what that guys issue is. He's losing customers right and left.

Do yourself a favor and invest in a VPN. You'll have to create a new profile and create an account using a different email and new photos, but there are ways of getting around that situation. I received a temporary ban on a sports forum, I appealed and never heard from them. So I added the VPN aspect to my laptop protection (it costs me a whopping $12 for the year) and I went ahead and created a new account. Granted a sports forum is not like BBRT, because you may want to use some of the same photos and you'll want your geographic area to remain the same, for obvious reasons. I don't know what the owners problem is. I have had a profile there for years, yet as I chat with guys on Nastykinkpigs (or other sites) I am finding guys are being banned right and left, usually over drug references. I find this hypocritical considering the site allows you to list if you party or not. I find his actions surprising because there is so much competition, telephone apps have taken over, and guys have become more savvy in finding ways to get around the rules. I know he has posted articles regarding "charge-backs" or credit cards, and that if you did that you would get a life-time ban. However, that is the only thing I have seen him take seriously. I don't know what is prompting all of these bans, I don't know if he is receiving information that makes him believe his site might be close to getting shut down. Therefore he is going through all the profiles and either telling people to make changes, or just banning them without a warning. What I don't understand is why he won't communicate or talk with you. Like I mentioned I have been on that site for a number of years, I have paid to "upgrade" and I would be thoroughly pissed if he did that to me. Try a VPN, they work!

Someone on here posted "A BiG DICK MAKES UP FOR A WHOLE LOT OF UGLY". Truer words were never spoken (or posted).😁

I would not want to jeopardize my ability to post here on BZ, but the rules regarding "escorts" and "porn stars" seems to be ever evolving. I understand you cannot suggest or recommend a particular individual, but I am somewhat unclear if I can say "this particular porn performer" escorts or he does not. I have run across this situation in my personal life where an individual, who appears in adult films, has asked or suggested I mention his "availability" to friends. Are fellow BZ members "friends" or can my remarks just be "word of mouth" as opposed to openly posting that this particular individual is available for "private meetings"? It would be nice to have some clarification.

Stormy Daniels - only because she slept with Donald Trump and doesn't want to spread any diseases to those in the adult film industry. Her vagina has a "warning sign" - enter at your own risk - No. 45 has been here. She doesn't exactly use condoms, but she insists her male co-stars use them so they are not infected. I hear Mr. Strawberry Hair (he did list that on his jail paperwork in Georgia) has a little winkie! I paid 99 cents and purchased Stormy's classic FULL DISCLOSURE from Thriftbooks - I highly suggest it if anyone is recovering from surgery or their cable is out!

Wow, so Vegas is more concerned about people's privacy over people's safety - that sucks. Not sure I agree with that one, so I suppose what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas!

Wow, that is surprising, I always stayed at the Luxor, because Grindr often has a $10 pool party where you get to see everyone in real life, not just on your phone. It's funny, because it sits right next to Mandalay Bay, where that gunmen killed all those innocent people. I recall hearing that all hotels would now require a room be cleaned each and every day so that some nut job could not hoard guns over a period of days. Maybe that was a "proposed" law, as I know many"honeymooners" do not want to be disturbed. If there are any other Vegas residents, or those who use rooms in that town, can someone state if they had their room cleaned during their stay? I have no doubt what you are telling me is true, it's just shameful. But then again, it could happen in any major city. That is very sad.

I do agree with the above poster - who wants to do every towel and bedsheet you have in your home? Who wants some nosey cleaning lady coming into your room when you have your dick in some random ass? We can thank that bit of interruption to that idiot mass shooter in Vegas. Not only did he kill 50 plus people or more, but the law now states in Vegas that a cleaning lady must come into your room once every twenty four hours. That sucks (and not in a good way). Because someone went off his meds that means all of us law abiding citizens must get dressed and act like we are watching football, and hide the lube, poppers, and whatever else we are doing from some woman who speaks limited English. I don't know what it is where you live, maybe only Nevada adopted that law, but if I rent a room for a day, or two, or three, I think I have the right to tell housekeeping to stay politely OUT, get fresh towels off her cart, and tip her generously. At least in Palm Springs, they bought porn to my room and ended up screwing half of the male housekeeping staff - but that is another story. The bathhouse in Vegas is not bad, and in PS every guesthouse is a bathhouse, so I say go to the bathhouses and enjoy yourself!

No, only the one known as "Lady Graham" who is known, and has been photographed with both porn and sex workers. I am sick and tired of people saying "oh no he doesn't", because in fact , he does. If BZ member want to believe that Lindsay Graham doesn't hire men for sex, go right ahead. I, FOR A FACT, know he does. I am just waiting for the Secret Service or members of the US Department of Justice knock on my door. Glad my I Phone still can produce reasonable facsimiles of "Lady Graham". Enough said....

I am going to accept everyone's opinion as just that - an opinion. My intent was NEVER to insult anyone. However, I will leave it at that. I can't win no matter what I post. I am not a racist, nor have I ever been. The comments to "calm down" are just insulting. However, I will be quiet, rather than ongoing posts gather the wrath of moderators. So, I'll keep it at that. But please don't refer to me as "brother" because I don't know you. Thank you.

I don't know if I would call "Lady Graham" homophobic, more like homosexual acceptant. Lindsay Graham has been well known to hire sex workers as well as adult video performers for his pleasure. Former White House employee Jan Psaki has referred to him as "Lady Graham", however I don't know how well that was received at the White House. If he is gay, then let's call a "spade a spade" However I have reached out to at least one individual adult porn star who has stated he has visited "Lady Graham" at his residence, and money was exchanged for sex. He acknowledged that "Lady Graham" was going. to admit to his misdeeds, but that never happened. When I contacted that adult performer he never responded. I understand an individual may not want to be acknowledged as a "sex worker" but I was deeply disappointed that he would not come forward and talk about his experiences with the Senator. I understand he don't want to be charged with prostitution, but wish he would have stepped forward and pointed out the OUTRIGHT contradictions in the Republican Party.

No, I am not missing the point at all. That's your opinion and you don't know me personally, so don't attack me, got it? BTW, don't quote me again, understand?

You are catorgorizing white men. Get off your high horse. You are generalizing all white men as if we worship black dick, we don't . What you are saying is as offensive as saying all white men are in search of "BBC". Sorry but you are wrong.

Flamingo is a dump, it's not going to survive much longer. I think they are happy to have ANYONE in that place, the possibility to have someone drop a quarter in their slot machines in more important than checking key cards. I went with my Mom and three sister (Manny, Moe, and Jack) and we went to see some celebrity impersonators. It was dirty, depressing but the show made my Mom and sisters happy. You can get up to rooms, no problem. The Bellagio, that's another story.