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The question was simple, if you were to choose between the (1) freedom to love men from an accepting society or (2) freely fuck with men because there are no STDs. I thought the answer was going to corroborate what I see in the posts in this site and in Grindr, Manhunt, BarebackRT, etc, SEX. A young guy once told me that he asked a girl if she wanted to take a look at a gay cruising park. The naive woman thought that these parks were places where men go to hold hands and watch the sunset together. She had trouble understanding why guys would arrive in a car alone and disappear into the bushes and was shocked when she learned that the men were there for sex. I'm not saying that men are unable to love but what I'm saying is that the glue is SEX and if something else happens, then fine but sex is first. I've never heard of an App dedicated to men in love. Society may be delusional about men being sex machines and pretending all we want is be able to "love" (what a joke!) but I don't understand why guys in this site are so reluctant to admit that sex is the main motivation, and the only motivation for many men.

No. In terms of freedom, I want to know whether gay men would rather love freely or fuck freely. If men are able to love freely without any discrimination men should be able to establish monogamous relationships which would eliminate any fear of infection. Ridiculous, of course, but that is the perception that the general public has about gay men, men who have been oppressed just because of who they love. Sex is never part of the gay world because the only way homosexuality can pass muster, is by leaving sex out of homosexuality. In 1980's during the AIDS crisis many gay men, all of a sudden became monogamous, the same men who were regular sex clubs in NYC, like the Mine Shaft, or San Francisco. I would also go with Option B, no contest. I don't care about same sex marriage and I just wish we could fuck in peace. Think about, if there were no STDs it would not only provide you with peace of mind while being a whore, but the lack of STDs would also allow men who are married or in a relationships with women, to have sex with men without having to explain anything to their wives. We forget that there is a large number of so-called straight men who want an emotional/intimate relationship with women, maybe children, and casual sex with men, no kissing or possibility of love. Some men who are have sex with women like being a top with the woman and then be the bottom with men. I've seen that a lot.

Both are unrealistic expectations. My question is a hypothetical one.

I find it ridiculous when gayness is defined, mainly by women, as the freedom to love whoever you want. Love? Isn't sex what men want? Confronted with two options, what would gay men choose? Laws that give total protection to LGBT and discrimination ends completely in society and men can freely love other men All STDs, including HIV, Hep-C, etc, become a thing of the past either with vaccines or cures, and men can freely fuck each other I would obviously choose #2

On TMZ they had a story about "Janelle Monae Rocks Tiny Bikini in Cabo -- I Like That!". Because I was not at all interested in the story I was about to switch when I spot a hot bulge on the black dude on the left. Never mind the tiny bikini... https://www.tmz.com/photos/2019/06/20/janelle-monae-bikini-thong-booty-vacation-cabo-photos/images/2019/06/20/janelle-monae-bikini-thong-booty-vacation-cabo-photos-07-jpg

Comments from so many bottoms makes me think of those women who keep complaining how dehumanizing it is to be seen as a sexual object, never mind just a hole for cum.

Is it "success or failure?" when a guy fucking me cums too quickly? I usually assume it's a bottom just getting off before going home. I know that one of the reasons some guys bottom is because they don't last long. I like it when a guy cums quickly.

A bottom who is young (20's and 30's) and really hot, like Dawson, will be more successful in organizing a gangbang or whatever event he wants. I find that nowadays with PrEP and ART the amount of bottoms willing to be cumholes has increased and the competition if fierce, so trying to arrange gangbangs is even tough for hot young bottoms.

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I find the wet sensation to be a common indication for me that my hole has been bred. It becomes harder to tell once your hole is wet and a second guy fucks you.

To clarify things, I'm talking about a bottom who spends a few hour at a bathhouse sucking cock, getting fucked and hopefully taking a few loads. I'm not talking about a bottom in a 1-1 sex session. No matter how much of a bottom some guys are, once the evening is over and they wanna go home many are horny feeling the cum in their hole, or they watch a gangbang and get turned on by a freshly bred hole, they decide to shoot their loads before going home. I mention this because I've noticed that many bottoms feel that if they ever top they are not real bottoms. When that's not the case.

I took my first load at the YMCA in NYC, months before the song was released. Back then there was no such thing as bareback. I took a room in one of the men's floors. The rooms were cheap so it was busy with guys visiting NYC or new residents to NYC. I didn't have much experience but I quickly realized that all I needed to do was to leave the door of the room ajar. I was then in my 20's so guys would be dropping by my room. The cruising went on all night, guys from all the men's floors walking around, it was pretty wild.

I find that one of the reasons guys don't enjoy topping is because they cum too quickly. As opposed to guys who can pound holes for 20 minutes and never loose the erection and without shooting their load. If guys can do that, it makes sense to want to top. There are guys at a bathhouse who mostly bottom but once they're done for the night they hunt for a hole to dump their load and be able to go home. These guys usually cum fast because they're feeling so horny with the loads in their hole, but I don't care if a guy cums quickly.

For me a good sauna/bathhouse: (1) Has to provide good cleaning facilities for deep cleaning, especially when they offer public or private slings. (2) I like saunas with enough dark areas conducive to to some kinky action. (3) The place has to offer private rooms

For me, there is nothing hotter than taking an anon load from someone at the bathhouse, park, or at my private gloryhole. The best is being at the sauna in my room, a guy comes in, plays with my hole, he fucks me for a while, he dumps his load and leaves without saying a word. And all I'm left is with his load leaking out of my hole. Those are my best fucks.

Slept with? Guys go on PrEP so they can FUCK bareback, not to "sleep" with guys. When you're in Oprah then use that euphemism.

I don't enjoy sucking on a very small cock. But I don't mind getting fucked by small cocks, especially if they leave a load in my hole.

Dealing with guys who take over a sling for a long time is difficult. As discussed here before, the maximum time that would be appropriate is not even clear because it depends on may factors, including the number of guys fucking him. If a hot bottom is on a sling for two hours getting fucked by several guys and taking several loads, would it be appropriate? I think it's OK. To improve the chances on a public sling it's sometimes a good idea to go to the bathhouse with a buddy and help each other depending on each other's preferred role. Once the buddies start fucking on one of the public sling spectators begin to gather around and some frequently join in and interesting things can happen. I find that now more than ever, lately because of PrEP, the amount of slutty bottoms has mushroomed which means that the competition has increased for bottoms, especially for older bottoms. Now 18 yr-old slutty take-all-loads bottoms are part of the game and others must compete with them. I started barebacking again in the early 90's and at the bathhouse it was easy for me to get loads because not too many bottoms were taking loads. So tops would remember me so once we met again at the bathhouse I knew I was getting their load. I would be asked "Are you the guy who barebacks?", I guess just to make sure they could unload inside because not many were. The problem is that is you can't please everyone. Same goes for guys who like getting rimmed, should they keep a smooth or hairy hole? I love the idea of the sling at the bathhouse. But I find the in order to avoid many of the hassles that have been described, the best thing to do is to pay for a well positioned room with a sling. That way I can stay on on the sling in my room which some guys like because they appreciate the privacy so they walk in and close the door. Or I can use the bed and walk around and if any of the public slings is free I can jump on one. But I know I have my own sling in my room. The room has to be strategically located because some bathhouses rent rooms with slings but the rooms have no traffic and they are useless. I have a room I always use when I go to saunas in my town or other cities. By renting a room with a sling you can find ways to accommodate shorter guys, something Public slings should do.

Years back when I was in my 40's I used to spend a lot of time at the local sauna and I did very well because I had a very nice muscled body that made me look younger. For a couple of years I used to see an ugly guy in his 50's, with a hump in his back. He fucked me for the first time in the dark room but after that I knew that at the sauna if I saw that guy I was getting his load. It was hot seeing him fuck me because he enjoyed fucking an attractive bottom.

Someone who's "officially versatile" is usually someone who enjoys both roles and who says that in his profile so he can get approached by both tops and bottoms. "Total bottoms" are those guys who really enjoy getting fucked and being bred and the say that in their profiles so when someone approaches them they better be someone in the mood to fuck. But it doesn't mean that a total bottom can never fuck and breed a hole, especially in group scenes like gang-bangs and bathhouses. But it seems to me that many total bottoms take their role very seriously and refuse to get off by unloading in someone's hole because they think that it may jeopardize their bottom role. I'm talking about breeding a hole just to go home instead of jerking off. Same here. There have been many times when at the bathhouse I've been bred by a bottom who's just horny and wants to unload and go home.

I'm not sure if it actually helps but I sometimes first coat my hole with Vaseline and use a water soluble lubricant on top.

I usually notice a change in the breathing rhythm. But I like to be told by the top that he's about to cum so I usually tell them something like "If you tell me when you're about to shoot I'll open up my hole to receive your load". I find that most tops end up telling me in some way.

The idea that someone who's a bottom can never fuck and that a top can never get fucked makes no sense. Some guys are tops in some circumstances and bottom in others. "I'll top a younger smaller guy but bottom for an older larger top".

The way I explain why some guys feel the need to pull-out once they cum is because the tip of the cock becomes too sensitive and the bottom is tightening his hole to a point of making it uncomfortable. Everyone who's fucking has a different need for friction. Some can fuck for hours without cuming and even need a tight hole to shoot their load. Others cum too quickly if the hole is too tight. The bottom has to be able to assess how tight or loose should their hole be for every top who fucks them because they are all different. If a bottom wants the top to stay inside after shooting he then has to make sure not to put more pressure on a sensitive cock that it can sustain. Many bottoms say they want to "milk" the cock by squeezing their hole, which sometimes puts too much pressure. I have three recommendations to bottoms who want to increase the chances of a top not pulling out: (1) During the fucking be in-tune with what pleases the top more. Moaning may be OK, especially if the top likes it, but I recommend dirty talk instead. "That hole is for your cock and your cum", "Let me know when you're going to shoot so I can open up my hole and go deep to deposit your cum". (2) Once the top starts to cum I recommend opening up their hole and then tightening it slowly until is comfortable for the top so he doesn't need to pull out. (3) Keep talking dirty and say things like "Keep pumping your load" and always making sure how much pressure to apply. Years ago I had a long time fuck buddy who would drop by my place and fuck me in my bed. This guy every time he came asked me not to touch him and to open up my hole to lessen the pressure on his cock.

Not only tops. Many bottoms who occasionally fuck and breed holes choose a sloppy hole to pump their load. Feeling the cum inside is the big turn-on.