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The trend toward oral only is something I have observed here in Portland too, and it gets even worse. While this area was never great for fucking in the time I've moved here, other than a brief period right after we started going out again after COVID, it has trended more and more asexual. One of the local bathhouses host parties where they issue glow bracelets that indicate sexual position, plus a separate color for oral only and none of the above, while it was always more than half choosing one of the 2 I don't fuck colors, it progressed from 50% oral only, to 75%. In the last few months it has trended towards 60% choosing none of the above, 30% oral only and 10% combined for top, bottom and versatile. You wouldn't believe how many invitations I get from complete time wasters to come home with them and cuddle all night.

I disagree, there are regions where what you say is true, but there doesn't tend to be much interest in group sex in those areas anyway. In cities that do have a lot of group sex, their are more functionally versatile guys and a lot more of those activities occur. Maybe it doesn't sell, but @muscmtl and I would love to see more porn that has that in it.

The almost anywhere in the midwest or Denver/Colorado Springs would be closer for you. They are always good for me. Other than Minneapolis, I haven't had the chance recently, but I have been getting a lot of action in Minneapolis over the last year. I fucked and had my brains fucked out for the 9 years I lived in Denver, the move to Portland was quite a sex culture shock. I used to have good luck in Dallas, back in the 90's when I lived there. The last time I even visited was more than 20 years ago, so it may have changed. The hookup apps were in their infancy.

To be fair, I'm no longer what would be considered young and hot, but can easily find the 10 to 15 guys to fuck me (not necessarily breed me) at sex clubs or orgies in Los Angeles in 2 or 3 hour period. However my experience is significantly more than half of those 10 to 15 guys are versatile and we wind up flip fucking. Where as here in Portland, a town that is noted for an extreme surplus of bottoms I can go to the bathhouse spend 8 hours and strike out completely, and finding someone willing to flip fuck happens maybe half a dozen times a year. I have long observed that to get a lot of fucking as either a top or bottom you need to be in a place with versatile guys that are willing to act on their versatility. Here even the guys that claim to be versatile won't flip in a single session, or even in another session, once they have topped or bottomed with that guy that is their set position for all future hookups with the same guy.

While there is some truth to the surplus of bottoms, a bigger issues is guys that either don't fuck in any position or don't really know how. Where I live now, probably 90% of the guys online list bottom on their profiles or say bottom when asked in person, but the real problem is they don't actually fuck or have given up. It doesn't happen to me when I travel or happen to me when I lived in other places, but I often wind up jacking off before or after leaving the sex club, because there are no one is willing, able and ready to take a quick fuck when I get ready to leave. The other problem I encounter, which is true of bottoms, tops and versatile guys where I live is that they have too many inhibitions and restrictions on how they can fuck or get fucked that at least 50% of them are unsatisfying fucks after spending hours of wooing (cruising for a hookup isn't supposed to take hours to close the deal) to get them to do anything. This area is noted for having an extreme surplus of bottoms, but as a versatile guy who is successful in finding bottoms and at least getting occasionally getting topped in other parts of the world, it looks more like a deficit of men who actually know how to hookup and then be flexible enough to have a satisfying experience once you do hookup.

I think this "market trend analysis" and the influence gay porn has on our tastes is a major contributor to the decline in casual gay sex. I've long observed that the porn playing in a gay sex venue has a huge influence on what guys do while they are there, I absolutely hate it when I'm in a club and they have suck, jack off or some fetish that doesn't involve fucking porn playing, because it puts a major damper on the sexual activities even in a city or venue that normal sees a lot of uninhibited fucking. The same is no doubt true about versatility, and applies to the general gay sex scene, not just a single venue. If we want more casual sex we either have to somehow encourage more men to become total tops, or get more versatile men to indulge in their versatility. The reality I have observed, if you actually want to have an active orgy, most of all of the attendees need to be versatile.

I really miss sex clubs that have a lot of loose well fucked holes. I wish their was enough fucking going on locally to have them. I got lucky enough to fuck one that had just been bred twice in quick succession and add my load a couple of weeks ago, but it doesn't happen very often here.

Prior to the "fans only" type porn, the studios had seemed to completely stop making flip fucking scenes. There were performers that were versatile, but they weren't topping and bottoming in the same scene. Like you I prefer scenes where all the performers get dicked.

I was about to write that people who have gone through the full cycle "don't have internet access in the cemetery," but @ErosWired stated it more eloquently.

Here is my current favorite "An Epic Orgy", not quite all of the guys bottom, but I think they all top. My favorite part is Clay Towers and Blake Houston swapping creampies while they are fucking and getting fucked by several versatile men. I'm not sure why good versatile orgies are so hard to find in professional porn, but there is getting to be quite a bit of only fans type stuff out there. While neither one of them are my type, RC and Digger have made a lot of flip fucking orgy scenes with guys that are my type, and mostly cumming inside the holes. [think before following links] https://www.gaydvdempire.com/2705527/epic-orgy-an-gay-porn-movies.html

A little foreplay including sucking is fine, as long as they are willing to move on to the main event, where one or both of us gets a cock in our ass. I have a real problem locally with guys in sex clubs wanting to engage in light petting type foreplay for hours on end, with no intention of even touching my cock or letting me touch theirs, let alone fucking or even sucking. Quite often a couple of these guys will get together and occupy a prime cruising/fucking spot in the club, to make out, play with each other tits and caressing each other's bodies above the waist, for several hours.

Using BBRT (or any of the other hookup sites/apps) for dating seems to be mostly a PNW problem. At least I've never had that problem outside of this region.

We have that exact same problem at the sex clubs here, if a guy asks if you've been loaded before he sticks his dick in there is no right answer, if his dick is already in there is no wrong answer. I'm typically balls deep before I ask when I'm topping.

That's same thing I have observed, it's largely depends on the region. It does work great in some cities. I wish it did here, but nothing else works here either.

I've found the occasional hole that is too tight or almost too tight to get in. I've also had a couple of guys clamp down like a vice on my dick, which I really did not appreciate at all.

Same here, they ain't straight if they are giving or taking dick. I disagree, you are at least somewhat bi, just like the "straight tops". Maybe any-sexual is a better term than bisexual, but if you enjoy fucking or even sucking with both sexes you are neither straight or gay. It is time to embrace bisexuality.

My 2nd top ever did it to me, I came simultaneously and completely coated the wall I was bracing against. He is also the one who taught me how to do the same to him. We were both 21 so there was a lot of force to our spurts, so even though it was 1991 and safe, I felt both the spurting liquid and heat of his cum. I was also sure the condom broke and very relieved when I found out it hadn't.

I'm a B3 as a top, I try to keep moving slowly so that at least a couple of my spurts spray directly on the prostate, I learned early what a great feeling that is as a bottom and want other men to experience it too. I've had comments from guys about how much I cum, for both my 1st and 2nd loads, and know when I used condoms that the reservoirs are inadequate and when I fuck a women always try to pull out before the cum starts leaking out around the base of the condom. As a bottom I find A2 is the most typical, although I love having a guy continue thrusting when he cums for the reasons stated above.

This statement is also true for me, and while I mostly gave up on the idea of achieving a true romantic relationship a long time ago, I'm also fully and completely committed to being versatile and bi, so I wouldn't even consider giving up sex with men or women for that matter. I'm not willing to repress either side of my sexual desires. I also don't care a lot about gay culture, but that has been heavily colored by my time living in Portland where being out and seen as gay seems to have very little to do with actually having sex. At least here, the gay community is made up primarily of 2 groups when it comes to their sexual practices, one that wants a heteronormative relationship with another man, and another that would be better described as asexual than homosexual. Neither group are conducive to finding a lot of casual sex in gay venues or at gay events, which severely limits the amount no strings, drama free fucking.

I find those in my boxer shorts the morning after a good night at the fuck club. Living where I live, they would starve to death. On the other hand, I see guys of all sizes, shapes and ages modeling their fetish gear at the sex venues and events here, so they must be able to get it somewhere. Now, if we could just get them into actually fucking while they model their gear, we would have it made.

For a bi, versatile omnivore, this is a somewhat amusing discussion.

Finally, for the 1st time this year had a day worth writing about. There was a large older crowd at Steam, for a Sunday, unfortunately as usual there was very little sex happening. I finally got a cute Latino twink to give me a good pounding in the sling, pulling all the way out then plunging back in repeatedly, he wasn't ready to cum the 1st time he fucked me, but almost 2 hours later I saw him again hopped in the sling and picked up where we left off, this time we drew a crowd of 6 guys (instead of running like scared rabbits like they usually do when 2 guys start fucking in one of the group play areas), and he tried unsuccessfully to whore my ass out to them. Two of them did finally "join in" by engaging in tit play with both of us, but neither of them were willing to even let us touch their cocks. In the end he absolutely flooded my hole with cum, but I couldn't convince any of the 6 guys who watched us to take advantage of an opportunity for sloppy seconds. After wasting another couple of sexless hours, I happened upon a cute twink getting drilled in the sling by another twink, surrounded by at least 8 guys. Since I couldn't really get near the action, I decided to check the other downstairs group play space to see if anything else had started happening, but all I found was 4 guys engaging in more tit play while completely ignoring their cocks, so I went back to the sling play area. The same 2 twinks had just bred, but were on the bench instead of the sling by this point. One older guy eagerly stepped up and bred the bottom twink as well, then since no one else was, I stepped up gave him a good pounding and added a 3rd load to his hole. I stayed a few minutes to try to help him get one of the blue ballers to fuck him but neither of us succeeded. I stopped again after I took my shower, and he still had 3 or 4 guys fondling him, but didn't seem to be having any luck getting anyone to fuck him. Since it didn't look like there was anything else going to happen soon, I gave up and went home. Sadly this is by far the best time I've had in Portland since last fall.

This reminds me of one of my earlier ABS experiences. They had a curtained off area with curtained booths within it. I initially went to the booths with doors and enjoyed a little gloryhole sucking, but since it was the middle of summer and hotter than hell in the booths I reluctantly checked out the curtained area since it was cooler and there were several guys that didn't have their curtains drawn and were openly jacking off. It didn't take long after I dropped my pants for the guy across the aisle to join me, sit on my lap and start bouncing on my dick. I thought we were going to get thrown out when the store employee came back to see what was going on, but instead I wound up fucking him in the aisle. Have fun!

It sounds hot to me. I love both groups and being an exhibitionist for an appreciative group. Go for it!

I'm pretty agnostic on kissing, if my dick is in an ass or a dick is in my ass I never reject a in the heat of the moment. It doesn't even have to be the same person I'm fucking with in a group situation. I have learned with random hookups to not kiss until I'm sure one of us is about to get fucked, there are simply too many guys that consider kissing the main event and won't go any further once they get what they want. These same guys will all too happily take you out of circulation for hours when you would rather find a hookup who is into fucking.