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I'm glad you explicitly pointed to the competitive nature of topping for many men. It was a factor in my mind, but I thought I'd said enough in that one post.

I find the sounds of porn stars too inauthentic. Give me a top driving himself and his bottom over the edge and the authentic sounds that generates any day. I'd rather listen to audio only recordings of ordinary guys having a hot fuck than watch porn.

No, but for a guy born in 1964 (the user profile says 1989) Rocco is in his early 60's and hot as ever.

Looks like Rocco Steele.

I don't agree. Service top is another one of those terms that's been conflated with being dominant *and* being submissive. While a service top may be somewhere on the power dynamic spectrum, the litmus test of a service top is one who is focused on the bottom's *pleasure*. I reject the idea that a top who wants to pleasure his bottom is inherently submissive or dominant. Service tops take great pride and satisfaction in their ability to read a bottom and give them a memorable and pleasurable fuck. We don't talk about service bottoms because bottoms are already expected, by their natures, to serve and cater to the pleasure of breeder tops. This is why the idea of dominant bottoms going against that perceived norm melts so many people's brains. The same is true for submissive tops. A submissive top can be motivated by being objectified, used, demeaned, dominated, and controlled without any agency being exerted on giving pleasure at all. Any pleasure for the man using them is a by-product of their obedience and submission to that man's will, and not a first order goal. Language is always in motion, but when words lose the precision or essence of their meaning, the ideas they express become confused or lost completely. Inevitable digression, but perhaps illustrative: The term "side" is a great example. For a long time there was a group of men who didn't identify as top, versatile, or bottom because they didn't have penetrative anal sex - at all. There was a missing term that defined these people that did everything but fuck ass, and Dr Joe Kort came up with "side" to capture it. Today, hook-up apps have implemented "side" as an option along side the top to bottom continuum, but the apps have allowed it to be multiple choice. Today, we have top, bottom, and versatile men who are also sides. As a result, the term "side" has lost has its defining essence of having non-penetrative sex *exclusively*. As a bottom I'm not at all interested in men who don't have penetrative sex, so being able to filter out "side" men potentially has great utility in a hook-up app for people who *want* penetrative anal sex. There's a line of logic that says instead of top, versatile, bottom, and side being thought of as identities that signify activities, they are actually activities themselves. I'm sympathetic to that line of thought up to a point. Where it falls down for me is that it was a missing and unacknowledged sense of identity that Joe Kort was looking to name and allow people to claim that got us here. The crux of the issue is that Dr Kort was looking to capture people who *exclusively* have non-penetrative sex. This was needed because, for everyone else, the non-penetrative sex stuff was already on the table. To borrow and expand on Dan Savage's schtick about oral, the non-penetrative sex stuff "comes standard". Instead of "side" being a useful way for people who *don't do anal and do the other stuff exclusively* to identify themselves to similar folks, everyone who does the other stuff as well as anal is, in my opinion quite erroneously, using it too. As with "side", so it is with terms like "service top" - precision matters or we all end up meaning different things with the same term.

Let's not conflate terms here. Urban Dictionary has a simple take on submissive tops: "A submissive top is a top that likes it when the bottom is in control. Dominant bottoms can be just as powerful as dominant tops." I've run across a few (closeted/latent) sub tops in my time. It usually happens when a top accidentally presses my kink/switch buttons and I get aggressive and growly, and pound my hole onto his dick. Sometimes I lay claim to his dick, balls, and every drop of seed in him. Suddenly they need to be used and objectified like a human dildo or a bull milked to provide me with the virile cum I need deep in my ass. In most cases they get so freaked out by a) finding out they want to be controlled and used and b) by how intensely they orgasmed when they got it, that I never hear from them again. If I'm honest, I'd love to nurture and grow a submissive/switchy top as a FB/FWB. I'd enjoy helping him find the shape of his own submission.

I get that. Muscular driven breeders who need to tag every hole as theirs are a favorite. Don't discount that bottom pigs like me can help open the door so muscular fuckers like you can get what they need from overwhelmed horny straight muscle.

What any girl says about a "straight" muscle stud doesn't signify. Men like that don't show women who they really are. If they did, they'd get no pussy. "Straight" muscle studs who are all about muscular male bodies have needs roiling inside them. They need to unleash them on someone who needs it and can handle it. A horny eager pig with starving holes holding a cold beer is what he needs.

I find that eagerly swallowing every squirt like a starving baby bird makes men happy.

You got the exact word I use to describe my mission "Cherishing the seed of virile men..." I'm always going to want a man's seed deep in my ass where I can make it part of me and think about his DNA inside me. Spitting or pushing out a load that a man has bred inside you is just disrespectful.

If I ever go back again, I'll be sure to drop by to pick up a few loads of your kids so I can take them with me on my travels. I was lucky I found a young Thai-Australian man who was a horny and passionate fucker and breeder. Otherwise the trip would have been a bust.

In my opinion what you are describing isn't selfish behavior, it's asshole behavior. Bottoms who play these games deserve long-lasting censure, throw them out, give them no dick, and spread the word. At an ABS I've had a guy tell me I'm not clean when I know I'm definitely clean and lubed to a depth of 10 inches. A tall athletic man with a hefty 9" dick said I looked and smelled good to him, and fucked and bred me in front of the other guy. I was clean as a whistle and his nut felt amazing when he came. Guy watching sour-faced? Total Asshole. I was on my knees sucking a daddy newly arrived from work at a group event. I was sucking him to relieve his work stress and get him in the mood for the evening. An asshole bottom literally tried to take the man's dick out of my mouth so he could have it. Both of us were appalled at his behavior. So much so, the daddy (he was the most hung guy there) pushed him away and loudly promised me his load after he'd tried out some other holes, a promise he kept. Being polite, piggy, and prepared isn't just good manners, it's good for your reputation. That hung daddy and I get together and have epic daddy/son fucks now.

Having your growth acknowledged and appreciated at a base level, and your desire to get bigger validated can be surprisingly helpful.

I've done some erotic hypnosis play with muscle growth and hyper-sexual fixated men and it can be pretty satisfying and hot. I have a size difference/strength difference paraphilia so it's lines up well for me. I've helped a few guys adopt healthy muscle growth habits and tracked size and composition changes, but no one has admitted to me that they are juicing. Perhaps a topic under hard or soft kinks?

This is an interesting distinction. I definitely align with cocksluts. The sensation of penetration and the feeling of being inhabited completely by a man through his dick, of being possessed by him in a powerful way is what makes my hole helplessly spasm around a man's dick. This happens more as I get older and now my whole body can shake and spasm from the intensity of a great fuck. Pleasuring the whole man matters a lot to me, so it's less about the size of his cock than it is about the man. I'm also very much a cumslut. The intensity of his need to breed me, mark me, claim me, and impregnate me with his seed is a big deal to me. If a man fucked me well but didn't breed me, I'd feel like I hadn't pleased him enough or earned his cum inside my body. The man, his cock, and his cum all matter to me.

Justin Heath Smith broke long-standing Federal laws protecting minors. He admitted his guilt. He's been convicted and is awaiting sentence. Any individual's personal convictions or beliefs about the veracity of the charges are entirely moot. Heath has said on the record that they are true. Game over.

I can't resist men with dicks like this. Uncut, juicy fore-skinned head, thick like a torpedo just behind the glans, and a decent bush to feel up on my hole when you're balls deep. These tend to make me spasm around them a lot.

Consensual Non-Consent.

If you don't have an existing Grindr subscription there is no Grindr option under subscriptions. The only entry point to get a new subscription is via the Grindr app which only presents Xtra and Unlimited to me. People with other active plans that are no longer offered for purchase can, of course, see them under their current subscriptions.

Interesting. Only Xtra and Unlimited are available in iOS. Even looking at Grindr's web subscription page there is no mention of Core or Plus. Seems like they are old plans that if you didn't get them at the time, you can't now. After doing some research, it looks like just 7% of the overall monthly user base of Grindr have any kind of subscription (including paying for boost) at all. No wonder they are putting the screws to users to raise more revenue. Annoying the crap out of 93% of monthly users doesn't seem like a great way to turn them into subscribers.

So many more terrible ad products, so many more user experience interruptions and dead-stops, so many more notification glitches, so many more scams... Grinder is the most extreme example of Cory Doctorow's "enshittification" that I know right now. I made no claim, just a simple assertion independent of how well or poorly any other app may meet users needs.

I'd assert that Grindr fails your "good enough" litmus test in its current free incarnation.

Huh? Do you have some grandfathered in plan? Grindr XTRA is $19.99 month Grindr Unlimited is $39.99 per month

Even better, he's a U.S. Marine.