blackrobe

I proud to know such a dedicated service cunt.

I don't accept the premise of this statement. The implication that white bottoms are *settling* for (hung) black tops because they can't get hung white tops really bothers me. If you just look at the pool of tops, some are available and some are already engaged. Bottoms without any bullshit racial preference who are looking for tops get to consider the whole pool. What is true, I think, is that black men face rejection based on race all the time. Framing white bottoms as lowering their sights from white tops to black tops reeks of unconscious racism to me.

This nails it for me, too. Being folded in half, manhandled, and cunted.

You lucky bastard. Those three fairies only gave me those gifts in March 2019...

I'm 56, so in general I fall into the definition of older guys you're using. I don't have any specific hardcore preference for younger guys, so I may not be the right demographic to address your questions, but I'll take a swing at it just the same. For context, I'm interested in guys I connect with regardless of their age, I don't seek a specific age group. I've been fucked and bred by men from 20-something year olds to 70-something year olds and have found good sexual chemistry, friendship, and the potential of a larger relationship in men from early 30s to early 60s. I'm going to address each of your scenarios in turn... Scenario 1 - "False Sexual Desire" I can understand older men whose sexual appetites might be writing checks their libido's and bodies can't cash. As we age, we all want to hold on to who we've been and what we've been able to do. That said, I've learned from multi-cumming tops who have fucked my cunt that many bottoms of *all ages* either overestimate their skills or don't disclose their are only able to take dick in their cunts a short time, or until they cum. This results in a pool of long-fucking, multi-cumming tops who are dissatisfied at not having their needs met to fuck a long time and breed until they are sated. I've discovered this through comments from men who've fucked my cunt and reacted with surprise and pleasure that I'm encouraging them to keep fucking and breeding as long as they want. That's when these stories of bottoms of *all ages* who are "one and done" started to surface. I'm not sure why these older bottoms are overpromising and underdelivering, or why they are setting themselves up for failure in the eyes of these younger virile tops. Regarding the older man you went on vacation with, I can think of several situations to explain his sex-avoiding behavior. Stress in his work, feeling tired from travel, etc. but it's also true that sex is a stress reliever so it cuts both ways. His seeking connection from other men near his age during the trip could be fear of not measuring up for you, or a way of unconsciously lowering expectations of himself sexually in being with men closer to his own age. I can't imagine not at least laying down and making out to relax and see what develops. It's difficult to know for sure what was in his mind. What I do know is that there are older bottoms out there who genuinely want young virile dick and seed in their cunts and who will enthusiastically encourage them to continue after they've fucked in the first few of their loads. Chemistry can be tricky. I've been with tops who didn't connect with me and it's hard to be responsive when you don't feel it. I've also been with tops who delighted in finding out that pinching my nipples, whispering filth, and manhandling me made me growl and buck into them unconsciously demanding a more intense fuck. Focus on getting a read on the sexual chemistry up front. Kissing and making out is your chance to see how responsive they can be to your sexual ques and needs. Scenario 2 "Dependence on emotional validity" Ageism in the gay community is brutal. Agism alone isn't that hard to handle. I look at it as a self-winnowing - the men incompatible with you are just removing themselves from the breeding pool. What makes it rough to deal with is the lack of courtesy and rudeness that so often comes with it. Being told "Hey, I don't think we're a match. Good hunting to you." by a younger guy after sharing stats and face pics is just polite garden-variety rejection. It's being ghosted, ignored, or worse, insulted for being older, that can make it soul-wearying and set up the need for validation that you're talking about. Its especially bad if the young guy was very hot and heavy and demanding access to your cunt. That said, the men you're describing don't seem very centered or accepting of themselves as they are. I may be wrong, but my sense is the more narcissistic a person is, the more traumatic they find aging and losing their youth and appeal. We all have ideas about where we should be and how we should feel at certain times in our lives. I can understand the desire to have the relationship box checked. People can also use relationships as a shield or distraction from dealing with their own issues. Ignoring you when you are with them, and pining for you when you are absent don't make sense to me, but I can see how it might be another of these checkboxes that stave off judging their lives somehow wanting. My sense is that these men are not mentally healthy or well adjusted, and I don't see that as your problem to deal with. You want someone comfortable with who they are, and with only twinges in reaction to the inevitable agism in our community. Those men are out there. Scenario 3 "You fix yourself to meet my standards." What you are describing is a dynamic I've seen regardless of the ages of the men involved. It fairly common for people to hold something inside until it builds up pressure and explodes into a likely irrational outburst. The fixer-upper dynamic isn't limited in ages or in gender, either. The rejoinder from these older men saying you are too naive and such, is just a handy trope for someone to latch onto when there is any form of disagreement. I suspect in every relationship something similar happens falling back onto the most obvious fault-line when there is disagreement. While it might be true that more life experience dramatically changes how you react to situations, there are many cases where that isn't so. What is true, is that many older men at this time in our history are dealing with survivors guilt and a sense that younger gay men today don't viscerally understand what they went through watching friends die. Many of these older men watched friends, lovers, and acquaintances cut down all around them in the flower of their youth. You can understand why they might have some strong feelings about younger generations. That doesn't mean their value judgements are valid or correct, just that they experienced a form of mass trauma and some compassion for the lingering effects on them is called for. When it comes down to it, we need to meet each other where we are. Younger men are different to older men, and relationships across generations need those in them to accept and enjoy the differences in age, perspective, and experience and look to learn from each other. The same is true of relationships between men of different races, and doubtless many other human divides. Research has shown that as we age, our tastes can become fixed. We're all still engaged in the music that was around us as we grew from kids into adulthood. The same is true of other forms of entertainment. I think what you might be looking for is someone with what's called a "growth mindset". They tend to be curious, eager to learn, and experimental in how they approach the world. They are still going to like what they liked, but they'll be open to learning and experiencing what you like, and get to know how you see the world. TL;DR - Much of what you've observed is more universal than specific to older men, and there are lots of very horny, fairly well-adjusted older men out there looking for a young guy like you. Don't despair.

Perfect. All loads end up where they belong.

I'd add that its often not just preference. I'm wired as a bottom, topping isn't a decision I'm able to make. It took me a very, very long time for my cunt to flower open and find true joy in being used and fertilized, I won't be forced into dishonoring my nature by anyone.

I think jockstraps need to be treated like a carbon steel wok rather than regular underwear. Good woks need to be seasoned in order to perform their function to the best of their ability, that is cooking food fast at high temperatures without sticking. The same is true of a jockstrap. While a clean jock covers your dick and frames your ass and hole as the main event, a well seasoned jock tells the full story - this ass needs to be used hard, bred deep, and filled until it is overflowing. It says that you're a cumdump who expects to be left dripping with seed. It also allows men who love to eat ass to smell what you are and viscerally feel your slutty nature before a single spurt of seed as been fucked up into you. When it's still coated with the leavings of the last few men in your hole it shows tops who love pre-loaded holes that you're primed and ready for them to rut in. While you may also consider it a trophy, don't underestimate the possibility that an especially horny breeder won't want it as a trophy of claiming your whore ass as his own. Having a few used jocks that you can freshen with your cummy outflow is a good idea. If you end up with too many, you can always auction them off with the story of those who bred you while you were in it. The verisimilitude of a well seasoned jock can't be underestimated. It shows what you are, what you need, and how you're faring on both scores.

Well, I'm definitely getting a type from that grouping...

I'd like to amplify what rawTOP said above. Incest is a [banned word] because of the reproductive consequences, where reproduction isn't possible I'd assert the [banned word] makes no sense. rawTOP's point about the earlier onset of puberty is well taken, but children become aware of genital pleasure and how soothing genital play can be from when they are babies. It's common and normal for babies and younger children to play with their genitals for comfort and pleasure. Let's be clear, consent matters. Kids often engage in sexual discovery on their own and with others, both siblings and friends. Consent might not be given formally, but mutual curiosity and exploration is ample. Kids have no problem stopping and walking away from any play they are not into. The more the age difference, the more complicated it can become.

I feel the same as you and I've said pretty much what you said here in other threads, but to little effect. My choice was to show an example of how to talk about my breeder as a black man and not objectify part of his body or reduce him to just his skin color.

I started bottoming in early 2019. From the first man who fucked me bare until I met my dom breeder (a beautiful black man) it was less than two months. In our first session he connected me with my cunt, carved it deeper, made me feel the most submissive and controlled I've felt with any partner, and came in me 9 times.

I took 6 loads from the one breeder who fucked them into the deepest part of my cunt. I held them inside for about 16 hours and none of his seed came out. It was all absorbed. I felt very proud of how thirsty my cunt was.

Not at all. I just wanted to be clear what was in my mind. If you'd like to make up for your non-offense, you are welcome to fuck my cunt into a swollen mound any time.

I'm well informed on sexual health and transmissibility having read some of the +/u studies and have a number of +/u friends and FBs. I'll confess that having come of age during the early days of HIV, the idea of chasing doesn't hold any interest for me at all. Worshipping men's cocks and cherishing their seed in my cunt is where my interests and fantasies lie. I wanted to share *why* he didn't disclose to put it in a more human context. HIV stigmatization has real impacts, and internalizing that I've been awash in his +/u seed for months is my way of accepting how not big a deal his status is.

My most frequent dom breeder has all his profiles marked "neg + PrEP", but when he asked me get another top he can breed me with he disclosed he was +/u. The other top, who was initially up for it, went dark once he heard my breeder was +/u. We talked about it afterwards and he said that lots of guys who are keen up front go dark if he discloses his status. On top of the "preference" racism he's already dealing with, adding in his status felt like a bridge too far. This means that instead of neg loads, I've taken over 80 +/u loads from him. This means that neg loads have been a minority in my cunt for quite a while.

Hey, where is this suckatorium? Next time I'm in Sydney I'd like to give it a try.

That's a nice dick, but it would look better compressed into a chastity cage and leaking with fuck-need.

It would be interesting to come across top breeders like you, @bihairy and @Descartes70817. In general, I serve men and their cocks and so far almost all of them have shown little interest in whether, or how, I cum. My focus is always to "take dick" for as long and as hard and as deep as he needs to empty his balls. I came very close to an anal orgasm in my first incredible bare fuck, but have never been there since.

Relax and be open to the sensation. Meanwhile, if you're open to be on the other side of the equation, my cunt is very sensitive and I usually feel a man swell, throb, spasm, and pulse his seed up into my guts. Look into my eyes and see what if feels like to feel you cum in me.

I do love a hard, horny south asian man's dick fucking and seeding my thirsty cunt.

I love feeding a hungry man my cunt, I can get lost in the sensation. My nipples are hard and aching at the thought.

If you did that to me I'd just want more of your dick in me.

It really depends on the depth, severity, and duration of the cunting. About 4 days for a pent-up 2-3 hour cunting, and a fuck of any duration where he fucks up hard to stretch and open the sigmoid flexure and breeds there more than six times. For a less rape-like cunting its about 1-2 days. One big problem for me though is that I love the tender pain that an energetic fuck carves into my cunt. I find myself pressing into the sore places to connect with him again, enjoying the hurt, thinking about his seed, and wanting more.

What he said... I love a growing hog in my trough.